0potato0
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Pakistan just announced a trade deal with Russia and India with china are like half the worlds population.
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DIY-HP-LED
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I don't mind, I'll argue you into the ground and bury you with facts. At least you are somewhat honest and represent the other POV, whether you are paid to do it is a question though. The facts are obvious and it ain't hard to see where this is going and it ain't good for the Slavic peoples in general.
One man caused this and one bullet can stop it.
0potato0
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I am saying that by using the Belt and Road china built Russia doesn't need the west anymore
DIY-HP-LED
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Do you think this is over? This has just begun and the opposing forces are just getting organized in a serious way, diplomacy takes time and we have many diplomats from many countries all with the same goal, fuck Russia!
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printer
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How the war is going? Ukrain is holding off the Russians but ultimately will fall without a no fly zone. But the Ukrainians are doing what any person would do when being invaded by another country. I would fight to the death if we were invaded even if the war would ultimately be lost. There has to be a cost to aggression as from Putin. If the Russian people are all for a war why are they not being told the truth by their corrupt government? History will be on Ukraine's side on this one. Russia has fucked themselves, painted themselves into a little box.
printer
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Two upstanding countries. Ones we want to lead the world.
0potato0
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Of course they are heroically resisting but Ukraine history is filled with hopeless and sometimes stupid struggles, question is how they got to a point where they have to take on a nuclear superpower absolutely alone
DIY-HP-LED
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Pakistan is a write off, but India knows the good life and opportunities the west offers, there are many family ties these days between the west and India, many Indians are living in or citizens of western countries. If they need grain Canada has lots and can ramp up production considerably, ditto for America
This is because DEMOCRACY.Visa, Mastercard blocking Russian banks from networks
Multiple Russian financial institutions are being blocked from the networks of Mastercard and Visa after governments around the world announced sanctions following Russia’s invasion into Ukraine.
“The invasion by Russian military forces over the past week has been devastating for the people of Ukraine. Our thoughts continue to be with those impacted,” Mastercard CEO Michael Miebach said in a statement on Monday.
“As a result of sanction orders, we have blocked multiple financial institutions from the Mastercard payment network. We will continue to work with regulators in the days ahead to abide fully by our compliance obligations as they evolve,” he added.
The Mastercard chief executive also noted that $2 million would be channeled to Save the Children, the Red Cross and their employee assistance fund to further aid those affected by the Russian invasion into Ukraine.
Visa also announced on Monday that it is taking actions to work in compliance with the announced sanctions.
“Visa is taking prompt action to ensure compliance with applicable sanctions, and is prepared to comply with additional sanctions that may be implemented,” Visa said in a statement.
The credit card company added that it would also be providing a $2 million donation to the U.S Fund for UNICEF.
“During the past few days, all of us at Visa have watched the tragic scenes in Ukraine with deep sadness and disbelief. Our hearts go out to the many people and families seeking safety, shelter and peace following the invasion of Ukraine,” the statement continued.
The announcement follows several rounds of sanctions that the U.S. and other governments have imposed against Russia in response to its invasion into its neighboring country.
The sanctions have targeted Russian President Vladimir Putin, Russia’s foreign minister, certain Russian banks from the SWIFT international banking system, Russian elites and their families, sovereign debt and a host of financial institutions, among others.
Visa, Mastercard blocking Russian banks from networks
Multiple Russian financial institutions are being blocked from the networks of Mastercard and Visa after governments around the world announced sanctions following Russia’s invasion into …thehill.com
Fogdog
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That is the viewpoint of most Americans. Like you, I consider Putin to be a threat to everybody, not just outside of Russia but inside too. He's a threat like Hitler was although his military seems more inept. The people of Nazi Germany were saved from Hitler's plans by their losing the war. Imagine if after defeating Europe and Russia what they would have had to do to keep it? Auschwitz was not just for the Jews. Hitler planned to depopulate all of eastern Europe to make room for his master race. I can only imagine what kind of atrocities the common German soldier would be ordered to commit in order to carry out Hitler's plans after winning the war. The best thing to happen for WW2 German soldiers was that the allies defeated them.
But I'm not saying the US should take part in the fight with Ukraine. That would escalate the violence into total war and Ukraine would become a battlefield in all out war. I support US and NATO giving Ukraine everything it needs to carry out its war with Putin. I'm careful to say that this is a war with Putin, not the people of Russia. I don't think this war has very much support inside of Russia. I'm curious what @0potato0 has to say about that.
printer
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The point is that a country with nukes can push their weight around. I know you are smart enough to know that. The question is which rulers are willing to do that? I think we are in agreement here Putin is one of them.
Fogdog
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I'm trying to understand your views.
How many dead Ukrainian children would it take for you to oppose Putin's invasion?
And yet the Chinese..
DIY-HP-LED
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They are not alone and if the are entrenched in the western part of the country with increasing NATO support, including medium AA missiles. Vald is wasting resources going after the cities, he should be going all out to cut off Ukraine at the eastern border with Poland. It is a major blunder, soon eastern Poland will be a vast NATO supply dump and training area for Ukrainian troops with hospitals for the wounded. They will be training Ukrainians a brigade at a time and train them to use AA missile systems and set up and Air defense network. Support them with tactical advice and intelligence that acts as a force multiplier, supply the partisans behind Russian lines and in the cities with weapons ammo and food. Make it Hell for the Russians in combat and occupying Ukraine. All the Ukrainians have to do is hold on awhile longer and follow sound military advice while being supplied.
captainmorgan
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Bears are foul smelling creatures that like to root around in trash dumpsters.
0potato0
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There is nobody else on the west almost the entire army is encircled in the south east or encircled in the cities hiding among civilians. The only troops coming to the west of Ukraine are the Belorussians from the north
captainmorgan
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Hey potato head, will the mad midget start riding a smelly bear around instead of his usual shetland pony?