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Jimdamick

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awww Lavrov is talking to himself.......knew he could do it....especially in the mist of a UN walk out

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Sounds like Putin was in a bubble and misjudged just about everything.

I'm trying to find hope.

Perhaps its the last invasion of this kind? Maybe it will end of this discussion about how the US provoked Russia because we didn't honor their 19th century power politics enforced by tanks and guns? 21st century style politics that rely on cooperation, trade, technology and communication seem pretty effective. Also doesn't level cities.
What we are witnessing now is new form of warfare, economic strangulation.

This really is a war that counts big time, Syria Iran Afghanistan Iraq mean/are nothing in comparison.
This war is really based on economics in that if you can't pay for your bullets, you lose
Simple.
And Russia is penniless for all intents & purposes.

This is also a war of economic systems & shows the true Power of Capitalism. (are you watching China?)

This war economically will destroy Russia & the population will be allowed only the basics for awhile, like potatoes & lot's & lot's of vodka to numb the reality that their way of life as they knew it is over.

Tough shit

Ukraine will build back
Russia?
Sure they will in time but the damage is done,
They have become the #1 hated country on the planet & there's going to be big changes politically
That is guaranteed (bye Vlad)
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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Just think, the average Russian solder in the Ukraine is fighting to fuck himself. He gets paid (not very well) in rubles and the ruble went into free fall, with inflation he is fighting for an effective 50% cut in pay! No wonder Russian moral is in the fucking toilet! :lol:
 

AntoMaria7

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“Update March 2, 00:36. The lights at the Bridge over the Danube, the Damen Galaţi Shipyard, the Liberty Galaţi, the Mining Port, the Television Tower and the ferry crossing point at IC Brătianu in Galaţi were extinguished tonight. Measures have been taken to ensure that these targets cannot be used as long-range landmarks for aviation. These are not possible targets, but can be used as landmarks in locating targets of interest in Ukraine” my country is helping strategically, and thinking about strategy, what’s the logic behind “pinching” many places and cities over a long period of time instead of creating a quick and concentrated attack? Or it’s not going how putin was planning? Or maybe it’s a strategy and the worst is yet to come? But what does he think will happen after all this ends, that everyone will fear him so he will command amd we will execute? I’m trying to make some points meet in my head but no success for now
 

hanimmal

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just counting the numbers, it's almost half of the world's population that support this war. or, at least, don't condemn it...
now remember the speeches that said - whoever cooperates with the aggressor should also be sanctioned....
At best the dictators that are in control of half the worlds population support Putin's killing of innocent citizens of a neighboring nation.

And IMO it is most likely because they can use the decreased value of the Russian currency to take advantage of the Russian economic collapse.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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At best the dictators that are in control of half the worlds population support Putin's killing of innocent citizens of a neighboring nation.

And IMO it is most likely because they can use the decreased value of the Russian currency to take advantage of the Russian economic collapse.
Countries like Canada and the UK with large expat and citizen populations of Indians and lot's of valuable technology, trade and education, can have an enormous influence on India, so can the EU and when they all work together...
 

printer

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I had an article about which countries are not condemning Russia, they have ties to Russia. Eygypt gets most of their wheat from both Russia and Ukraine. The consensus is ultimatly Russia will prevail and Egypt will still need the wheat to feed its people after the majority of the fighting stops. They are not about to shoot themselves in the foot condemning the action and then lining up in the bread line. Some of the other Middle Eastern countries think the US will abandon them and pay more attention to China. In that kind of world Russia may be of use to them so they are hedging their bets. Mind you this action may cause the US to say why are we supporting these guys when we do not get it back? So it might be a self fulfilling prophesy.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I had an article about which countries are not condemning Russia, they have ties to Russia. Eygypt gets most of their wheat from both Russia and Ukraine. The consensus is ultimatly Russia will prevail and Egypt will still need the wheat to feed its people after the majority of the fighting stops. They are not about to shoot themselves in the foot condemning the action and then lining up in the bread line. Some of the other Middle Eastern countries think the US will abandon them and pay more attention to China. In that kind of world Russia may be of use to them so they are hedging their bets. Mind you this action may cause the US to say why are we supporting these guys when we do not get it back? So it might be a self fulfilling prophesy.
That kind of support is pretty weak, nobody likes to be coerced and caught in a vice, we can help, North America has lot's of unused agricultural potential, we pay farmers not to grow shit FFS! If Ukraine is liberated, it used to be known as the bread basket of Europe and will be again, it too has vast unexploited agricultural potential.
 

printer

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I am really concerned for the troops they have in the south. They are surrounded and are not being resupplied.

Belarus president stands in front of battle map indicating Moldova invasion plans
Images have emerged of Belarussian President Alexander Lukashenko standing in front of a battle map that appears to show a planned invasion of Moldova, along with Ukraine.

Lukashenko, a close ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, was reportedly addressing his security council Tuesday while standing in front of a battle map of Ukraine.

The map appeared to show troop movement plans and infrastructure targets in Ukraine, as well as targets in Moldova's breakaway region of Transnistria.

Some of the Russian lines of attack in the map have already taken place, while others are yet to occur, including an incursion into Moldova — a former Soviet country and Ukraine’s neighbor to the south — from the port city of Odessa.

Russia has already used Belarus as a location from which to send its troops quickly across the border into Ukraine, after insisting the large number of forces assembled there were for joint military drills.

Reports have emerged this week that Belarus is preparing to send troops into Ukraine in support of the Russian invasion.
The country’s close ties to Moscow in the attack prompted the U.S. State Department to suspend operations Monday at its embassy in Belarus.

The European Union also announced plans on Monday to impose new sanctions on Belarus over its role in the war, including measures against exports, oligarchs and banks in the country.

Belarussian state-run Belta news agency reported that Lukashenko said none of the country’s military units had yet moved into Ukraine, but could mobilize in two to three days if needed, as reported by the Daily Express.

The Pentagon, meanwhile, has said it had not yet seen signs of Belarussian troops in Ukraine.

 

AntoMaria7

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We are here to help with your moral too and any Ukrainian patriot who posts here would be welcomed and perhaps even helped.
If everyone was like you! You don’t know me yet as I’ve just joined this forum when I planted my first ladies but giving info about Ukraine is not because i live near it or because i need support as i’m 100% safe(hope it will remain like this for all of us) i participate in many social activities and this gave me the disadvantage(sometimes) of talking and writing a lot. I can’t help it, I learn so many new things everyday even from those kind of conversations from earlier:bigjoint:
 
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