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Roger A. Shrubber

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I just ask this. Are we not capable of defending ourselves from ICBM's as my Air Force MP friends claim. We have paid how much for Ronny Rayguns Star wars. Upto to Frumps Space Force. And we are being fleeced with cardboard armor as our oligarchs skim? Same as Putin.

We had no issue with aerial combat with soviets in Korea, Laos, Vietnam and Syria. And fully nuclear capable for all.

No one wants the vulture capitalism to end but the Ukrainians. All of you need to get a clue.
We're giving the Ukrainians weapons for free, all NATO nations are...the funds for rebuilding Ukrain, and paying for some of those weapons will come from Putin himself, and his oligarchs...so where is all of this vulture capitalism?
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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The Russians, who are partners of the country we owe all th emoney to: China.
Yeah, it'll be bad for them....
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China buys us treasury bills, that's why they say they own part of the us debt....about the same amount Japan owns...Great Britain, Ireland, and Belgium own about the same amount between them....but big bad china owns our soul...:rolleyes:
 

MICHI-CAN

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We're giving the Ukrainians weapons for free, all NATO nations are...the funds for rebuilding Ukrain, and paying for some of those weapons will come from Putin himself, and his oligarchs...so where is all of this vulture capitalism?
Already paid for by we the people. And where is Putins piggy bank? How about this artificial inflation that has already lead to historical records in profits for corporations. 25% increase last year in USA alone. As wages are again being driven down. And lest we forget that the banks rule the world. They will not hand over a dime. Will most likely scream economic collapse and extort another bail out. Sorry for the facts. We are but livestock to the wealthy.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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The hypersonic weapons change everything. There is no defense.
Starting hostilities in that manner would be a losing proposition.
That's why it's limited to mercenaries and propaganda right now.
Putin's hypersonic missile is crap...built by the lowest bidder, supervised by a greedy oligarch, tested by corrupt army officers....and we now have both one if the missiles AND a mobile control station...it is now useless shit....expensive useless shit
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Already paid for by we the people. And where is Putins piggy bank? How about this artificial inflation that has already lead to historical records in profits for corporations. 25% increase last year in USA alone. As wages are again being driven down. And lest we forget that the banks rule the world. They will not hand over a dime. Will most likely scream economic collapse and extort another bail out. Sorry for the facts. We are but livestock to the wealthy.
He is purported to be worth over 200 billion managed by three main oligarchs. People connected to Putin probably have at least a trillion maybe two in money abroad. How much laundered real estate is in NY? London? In NATO countries? Assets can be liquidated, it ain't all yachts either, but their plan to escape on them failed. Putin also has a "war chest" of $700 Billion frozen and there's other money and gold on top of that, we literally have it all in the bank. Switzerland is cooperating and so are all the usual tax havens in the Bahamas and Panama.

I think they should threaten to turn control of it all over to Ukraine unless they withdraw by a given date. There are a lot of financially trained Ukrainian women refugees in Poland who the government can hire to manage and collect it. If Vlad thought he got fucked by their men in battle, wait till their wives get their hands on his financial nuts! Think they will be as motivated as their husbands? They would squeeze every dime out of the fuckers if it took ten years to find it all.
 

MICHI-CAN

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He is purported to be worth over 200 billion managed by three main oligarchs. People connected to Putin probably have at least a trillion maybe two in money abroad. How much laundered real estate is in NY? London? In NATO countries? Assets can be liquidated, it ain't all yachts either, but their plan to escape on them failed. Putin also has a "war chest" of $700 Billion frozen and there's other money and gold on top of that, we literally have it all in the bank. Switzerland is cooperating and so are all the usual tax havens in the Bahamas and Panama.

I think they should threaten to turn control of it all over to Ukraine unless they withdraw by a given date. There are a lot of financially trained Ukrainian women refugees in Poland who the government can hire to manage and collet it. If Vlad though he got fucked by their men in battle, wait till their wives get their hands on his financial nuts! Think they will be as motivated as their husbands? They would squeeze every dime out of the fuckers it it took ten years to find it all.
We all know how effective a bit of palm greasing is in this money is speech world. And the unethical practices it has made legal. Are you seriously of the belief anyone but the working class and below will pay for anything? And say the bill is paid by Russian interests? How much of that will be distributed to those who truly lost everything? As much as we receive now from criminal companies menial fines. I merely state what we witness. More honest about it I suppose.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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They must need more crossing guards in red square
Pushkin Square, will soon to be renamed Putin square and they will have his name in 3 foot high gold Cyrillic letters... Why not he's acting more like Donald every day, maybe their the same, but Putin is smarter, or was!

Every one of those conscripts will end up in Ukraine and they will be taken from small rural areas, not the large cities, where the funerals would cause a stir. This is how they are selecting troops to go to Ukraine, mostly from Siberia or eastern Russian. What's wrong, no contract soldiers or recent veterans volunteering? The Ukrainians don't have any manpower issues, many join the territorials as volunteers because they probably get paid less than the army, if at all. They had 330 K mostly men return to fight a few weeks back and it could be up to 500K by now, some soldiers and reservists are even eager for combat and the chance to kill Russians.

So Vlad's green conscripts jump on the train, do they go directly to a depot on route get armed and shown one end of a gun from the other, back on trains and off to Ukraine to be slaughtered like sheep? Or do they undergo weeks or even months of training and then get slaughtered by even more Ukrainian soldiers who defeated those units they are to be replacements for?
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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We all know how effective a bit of palm greasing is in this money is speech world. And the unethical practices it has made legal. Are you seriously of the belief anyone but the working class and below will pay for anything? And say the bill is paid by Russian interests? How much of that will be distributed to those who truly lost everything? As much as we receive now from criminal companies menial fines. I merely state what we witness. More honest about it I suppose.
I think it can be done, of course they would give NATO money from it to repay all the aid and new equipment for NATO to replace the soviet junk they gave to Ukraine. They would instantly have the arms dealers in their corner on that one, they will want their business too! People who lost house and were made refugees will be compensated. public buildings and schools will need to be built and there will be a lot of construction going on and materials to do it from the EU, they also will also want a piece of the action. There will be enough money to tempt Jesus, but there will be a lot of eyeballs on it too, as well as a lot of hands out for it. If they put Ukrainian women refugees in charge of it it will get where it is needed the most. They will put a different picture of a child war victim in the lobby every day for motivation, if any is needed. Maybe they'll call them the Angels of Revenge or something and they will be national heroes handing out fat checks on TV to rub Vlad's nose in it forever. Even the Russian prisoners cleaning up the rubble this summer will be paid from Vlad's money.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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Russian Troops Suffer ‘Acute Radiation Sickness’ After Digging Chernobyl Trenches

Several hundred Russian soldiers were forced to hastily withdraw from the Chernobyl nuclear power plant in Ukraine after suffering “acute radiation sickness” from contaminated soil, according to Ukrainian officials.

The troops, who dug trenches in a contaminated Red Forest near the site of the worst nuclear disaster in history, are now reportedly being treated in a special medical facility in Gomel, Belarus. The forest is so named because thousands of pine trees turned red during the 1986 nuclear disaster. The area is considered so highly toxic that not even highly specialized Chernobyl workers are allowed to enter the zone.

Energoatom, the Ukrainian agency in charge of the country’s nuclear power stations, said the Russian soldiers had panicked and fled.

“It has been confirmed that the occupiers who seized the Chernobyl nuclear power plant and other facilities in the Exclusion Zone set off in two columns towards Ukraine’s border with Belarus. The occupiers announced their intentions to leave the Chernobyl nuclear power plant this morning to the Ukrainian personnel of the station," the agency said in a statement on Telegram, adding that a small number of Russians still remained at the facility.

The agency said it had also confirmed reports of Russian forces digging trenches in the Red Forest, “the most polluted in the entire exclusion zone.”

“Not surprisingly, the occupiers received significant doses of radiation and panicked at the first sign of illness. And it showed up very quickly.”

Local reports suggest that seven buses with the zapped troops arrived in Gomel early Thursday. Journalists on the ground have also reported “ghost buses” of dead soldiers being transported from Belarus to Russia under the cover of dark.

Ukraine Admits It’s ‘Impossible’ to Say if Chernobyl Is Safe

U.S. intelligence reported Wednesday that Russian forces began withdrawing from the defunct site. Russia said the withdrawal from Chernobyl was part of a pledge to scale back the invasion. But Ukrainian media says it is actually because the troops were “irradiated” from the contaminated soil.
 

Horselover fat

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Looks like a DJI Mavic, a commercial off the shelf drone that you can order on Amazon, the video display is a tablet, instead of a phone. It has the same range as the heavy mortar they are using and they can see exactly where the shots are falling. He is located away from the mortar crew incase he is radio located. The Russians can jam and radio locate these, but they don't have much equipment to do it, or don't in many places. You can get an SDR dongle for a cellphone to scan the entire radio spectrum for jamming before launch. It uses a 2.4 GHz encrypted data link and it's range can be extended and jamming mitigated with a directional antenna pointed in the direction of the drone. If they use it with a ground station on a tripod, it can use a GPS tracker to accurately aim a narrow powerful beam at the drone and receive from it, if it is line of sight. This can foil both jamming and radio location, to an extent.
Finland sent quite a bit of those drones to ukraine and some people laughed at them, but I think our army knew what they were sending. Finland has the biggest artillery in Europe btw... coming over our eastern border may prove challenging :rolleyes:
 

Friendly_Grower

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The Bully is crying "FOUL?"
That's rich.

What is the phrase? "Tit for Tat."

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I didn't read down enough

There is no verification of this.

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Ukraine is yet to claim responsibility for this attack, but if it were confirmed it would be the first time that Ukrainian aircraft have flown into Russian airspace to hit a target. bringing the war home to Russia.
 
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