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What I'm talking about in the Black sea is only possible, if Ukraine wins back Crimea and more or less ejects the Russians from the country. If they blow the bridge at Kerch and take back Mariupol, it will change the strategic situation in the Black sea and that will upset Russia and lead to Vlad's demise quicker. This war is gonna shake things up in Europe and the surrounding areas a lot over the next few years, if Vlad looses, it will be a different world. Europe will have a lot more access to the black sea for containers, oil and LNG tankers (the canal takes them away from Istanbul) from Asia and the middle east, saving thousands of sea miles. This canal project for Erdogan is like the conquest of Ukraine is for Vlad.
Why would they blow a bridge, easier to take the Russian side of the Sea of Azov with the bridge intact. Might as well get some Russian territory out of the conflict.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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The wings are not attached yet.



Those little blue things in the top left of the bottom photo, look interesting! They too look like they are made to maneuver and don't look like recon drones to me. They appear to have retractable landing gear and look kinda stealthy too. That cockpit looking thing on the front, could be a starlink phased array antenna or a space for one, they don't need to track and move.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Why would they blow a bridge, easier to take the Russian side of the Sea of Azov with the bridge intact. Might as well get some Russian territory out of the conflict.
A bridge too far methinks and the bridge is a permeant threat to Ukraine, Uncle Sam would pull the pin on them if they did IMHO. They would be content getting Crimea back and perhaps a load of abandoned equipment, if they were stupid enough not to burn it before evacuating by sea and air in a panic. Blow that bridge and the whole southern front is fucked, take Mariupol and they are cut off. I'm sure they are asking for our assistance with accomplishing this task discreetly, it won't be easy either.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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But stealthy.

Found a picture that shows the drone being assembled.

Two very large gas tanks over the CG ahead of the engine, it also looks like a candidate for starlink control and it must be on their agenda, everybody in the business must be buzzing about it. If one goes down, Vlad can blame Elon. They appear to be of composite construction and look stealthy to me, which might explain why they are surviving in Ukraine and are so effective. These don't use Isotropic radiation for control signals, they have a tight beam focused on them with a GPS tracking antenna. They still must transmit though when attacking at least, but that could be partly directional too.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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They are good at killing civilians, but not troops and might wish they had saved this shit for them, because the Ukrainians will be trying to kill them. If they were accurate they would be using them on Ukrainian defensive positions and not slaughtering innocents. There will be a lot of war criminals in the east and they will try to make sure as few of them get out alive as possible. Officers there who ordered massacres will be targeted for assassination by switchblade drones, they know who they are and where their units will be.
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39 killed in Ukraine train station missile strike as civilians flee Russian war


 

BudmanTX

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They are good at killing civilians, but not troops and might wish they had saved this shit for them, because the Ukrainians will be trying to kill them. If they were accurate they would be using them on Ukrainian defensive positions and not slaughtering innocents. There will be a lot of war criminals in the east and they will try to make sure as few of them get out alive as possible. Officers there who ordered massacres will be targeted for assassination by switchblade drones, they know who they are and where their units will be.
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39 killed in Ukraine train station missile strike as civilians flee Russian war

yeah i've been going through that mess........russian launched 2 SS22 missile out of Donbas region according to US assessments......and oh course as the russian would do......"no we didn't", they clearly did

correction:

SS21's
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I'd say after this week, even junior officers who ordered war crimes will end up in The Hague for them, if they have the radio traffic and their troops are captured and used as witnesses, even some of the troops could end up there, or tried for murder in Ukraine. Legally they are not POWs, they are common criminals, there was and still is no declaration of war. Some of them might have justice meted out to them on the spot and nobody in their unit will say a fucking word about it and nobody in the government will care either. Imagine a jury in Ukraine convicting a soldier of executing, a murdering notorious war criminal, not gonna happen.
 

BudmanTX

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I'd say after this week, even junior officers who ordered war crimes will end up in The Hague for them, if they have the radio traffic and their troops are captured and used as witnesses, even some of the troops could end up there, or tried for murder in Ukraine. Legally they are not POWs, they are common criminals, there was and still is no declaration of war. Some of them might have justice meted out to them on the spot and nobody in their unit will say a fucking word about it and nobody in the government will care either. Imagine a jury in Ukraine convicting a soldier of executing a murdering a notorious war criminal, not gonna happen.
a lot of the capture are returning to the war, but not on the Russian side, it's the UA side....Free Russia Batallion......
 

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ACLU denounces bill to allow seized Russian oligarch assets to fund Ukraine
The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) this week denounced a bill that would authorize President Biden to seize assets held by Russian oligarchs.

The bipartisan legislation, which took aim at the “corruption of Vladimir Putin’s repressive regime,” was opposed by the ACLU as “unconstitutional.”

“This bill was so unconstitutional that it raised the prospect that a sanctioned Russian national could win in an American court, which likely would have struck down both the statute and the sanction as being unconstitutional,” said ACLU federal policy director Christopher Anders.

Under H.R. 6930, or the “Asset Seizure for Ukraine Reconstruction Act,” the administration would be able to confiscate and sell property valued more than $5 million that belongs to Russian oligarchs found to have supported Russian President Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine.

The funds acquired by the administration would then be used to provide assistance to Ukraine, according to Reps. Tom Malinowski (D-N.J.) and Joe Wilson (R-S.C.), who introduced the bill.

“It would be fitting and right to use the wealth that supported Putin’s regime to rebuild the country Putin is destroying,” said Malinowski in a statement. “The Ukrainian people should see the boats, planes, and villas of Putin’s enablers being seized and sold, and they should know that the proceeds will help their country and cause.”

The lawmakers mentioned luxury villas, yachts and airplanes as property that could potentially be confiscated under the legislation. The congressman further stated that “military and humanitarian assistance, post-conflict reconstruction and technology to ensure the free flow of information in Ukraine” are resources the asset sales could provide to the people of Ukraine.

The bill, which would be authorized for two years after its initial enactment if passed, was ordered Tuesday to be amended before returning to the House for a second vote.

“Those who have accumulated great wealth and influence under Vladimir Putin and off the backs of the Russian people should not be able to hide their assets in the United States while Putin commits atrocities against the Ukrainian people,” Wilson said, in reference to the legislation. “Putin has chosen mafia rule, and the global community must respond accordingly.”
 

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Russian missile that struck rail station had ‘for the children’ written on it
A Russian missile that struck a train station in Kramatorsk, Ukraine — killing at least 50 — had a Russian phrase scribbled on its side that translated to “for the children,” pushing Russian propaganda.

Russia has repeatedly accused Ukraine of purposefully killing civilians, including children, and the message on the missile may have been meant to advance that claim.

Sergej Sumlenny, an expert on Russia who tweeted about the incident, said the message may have been meant to indicate that it was sent in the name of the Russian children who have suffered or been killed.

Children were among those reportedly killed in the deadly attack on the Kramatorsk rail station, adding to the growing mass civilian casualties from the war.

Ukrainian officials have accused Russian forces of targeting shelters with children. In March, Russia struck a theater in Mariupol that had the word “children” written on both sides of it, killing more than 300 people. About 1,200 women and children were hiding there.

In the Kramatorsk strike, 5 children were among the 50 people killed. One hundred people were injured. Ukraine’s prosecutor general’s office said women and children made up a majority of the nearly 4,000 people who were taking shelter inside the station, according to the BBC.

The train station was being used to assist in civilian evacuations.

“Not having the strength and courage to confront us on the battlefield, they are cynically destroying the civilian population. This is evil that knows no bounds. And if it is not punished it will never stop,” Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said in a Facebook post Friday.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Russian missile that struck rail station had ‘for the children’ written on it
A Russian missile that struck a train station in Kramatorsk, Ukraine — killing at least 50 — had a Russian phrase scribbled on its side that translated to “for the children,” pushing Russian propaganda.

Russia has repeatedly accused Ukraine of purposefully killing civilians, including children, and the message on the missile may have been meant to advance that claim.

Sergej Sumlenny, an expert on Russia who tweeted about the incident, said the message may have been meant to indicate that it was sent in the name of the Russian children who have suffered or been killed.

Children were among those reportedly killed in the deadly attack on the Kramatorsk rail station, adding to the growing mass civilian casualties from the war.

Ukrainian officials have accused Russian forces of targeting shelters with children. In March, Russia struck a theater in Mariupol that had the word “children” written on both sides of it, killing more than 300 people. About 1,200 women and children were hiding there.

In the Kramatorsk strike, 5 children were among the 50 people killed. One hundred people were injured. Ukraine’s prosecutor general’s office said women and children made up a majority of the nearly 4,000 people who were taking shelter inside the station, according to the BBC.

The train station was being used to assist in civilian evacuations.

“Not having the strength and courage to confront us on the battlefield, they are cynically destroying the civilian population. This is evil that knows no bounds. And if it is not punished it will never stop,” Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said in a Facebook post Friday.
Serious people were vowing to hunt those responsible for atrocities inside Russia for decades, Vlad will need his iron curtain and it had better be a tight one. One day I would expect to see them on the internet, as part of a hit list and their names and pictures will be published in future Ukrainian newspapers. This shit won't be forgotten for a long time and if they sign a peace the Ukrainian government will need to repress some of it at least.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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a lot of the capture are returning to the war, but not on the Russian side, it's the UA side....Free Russia Batallion......
The war criminals won't surrender, especially the officers, they must know what awaits them, they will be lucky to end up in The Hague. Ukrainian intelligence has a file on every officer in the Russian army and especially every one in Ukraine, they probably have files on every one of the soldiers too and the units they belonged to and where they were stationed. Not everybody will end up in the anti Putin legion, even if they changed their minds, some are guilty of murder and like cops, there are a lot of video cameras around these days, including in the sky, to hold them to account along with eyewitness accounts, radio intercepts and other evidence, including their subordinates looking for a deal.

Russian prisoners convicted of war crimes, would not do well in Ukrainian prisons, even the convicts there are patriots and quite a few were given probation in the army to work off their sentences. They had many volunteers from the prisons as well, they have families too and many things have been set aside in this war.

If you were doing 6 months for a DUI or possession of drugs, your probably in the army or reserves, under command and discipline now.
 

BudmanTX

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The war criminals won't surrender, especially the officers, they must know what awaits them, they will be lucky to end up in The Hague. Ukrainian intelligence has a file on every officer in the Russian army and especially every one in Ukraine, they probably have files on every one of the soldiers too and the units they belonged to and where they were stationed. Not everybody will end up in the anti Putin legion, even if they changed their minds, some are guilty of murder and like cops, there are a lot of video cameras around these days, including in the sky, to hold them to account along with eyewitness accounts, radio intercepts and other evidence, including their subordinates looking for a deal.

Russian prisoners convicted of war crimes, would not do well in Ukrainian prisons, even the convicts there are patriots and quite a few were given probation in the army to work off their sentences. They had many volunteers from the prisons as well, they have families too and many things have been set aside in this war.

If you were doing 6 months for a DUI or possession of drugs, your probably in the army or reserves, under command and discipline now.
oh war criminals will be on the run look at how long they took to track down the serbs that did war crimes......

UA intel is good, very good...and i would think that every russian service man get to met them right off the bat, if the intel branch doesn't see they did nothing, they get offered to go to the battalion on the condition they have to spill there guts....keep in mind i'm just guessing in that last part.....
 
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