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Roger A. Shrubber

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Russian central command is like watching the three stooges or benny hill, too fucking funny.


The commander of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Armed Forces, Admiral Igor Osipov, was arrested.
so that is putin's strategy? arrest anyone who loses men or equipment? so pretty much his entire officer corp?....works for me, and for Ukraine...
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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We can turn the lights off in Russia too, best to have a good defense, others will try too, it can be fixed with regulations and mandatory minimums for utility executives and board members! ;-) A green new grid will have security built in from the get go as a primary consideration.
this is just a further argument for nationalizing the power grid and electric utilities. they need standardization, they need a concerted and organized security system, and they need realistic pricing and billing that is standardized across the whole country.
private industry should have NEVER been allowed to take control of a critical infrastructure component like this
 

JamieThePainter

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Such communism!


Nah, I jest. Critical infrastructure such as energy, water, healthcare etc should all be nationalised. These are far too important for life to be gifted to those who see nothing but profit margins.
 

captainmorgan

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so that is putin's strategy? arrest anyone who loses men or equipment? so pretty much his entire officer corp?....works for me, and for Ukraine...

It's way funnier than just that. Russia is basically a crime syndicate so everyone in charge are criminals and thieves. Word is that every time Moscow allocates large sums of money for defense spending, all the criminals that have access to the money steal a portion. This last clown stole money that was meant for radar upgrades for the Moskva that was just sunk.
 

JamieThePainter

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It's way funnier than just that. Russia is basically a crime syndicate so everyone in charge are criminals and thieves. Word is that every time Moscow allocates large sums of money for defense spending, all the criminals that have access to the money steal a portion. This last clown stole money that was meant for radar upgrades for the Moskva that was just sunk.
Pretty much the reason his army have shit kit and out of date rations. That's what happens when you build an empire out of corruption, I s'pose.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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It's way funnier than just that. Russia is basically a crime syndicate so everyone in charge are criminals and thieves. Word is that every time Moscow allocates large sums of money for defense spending, all the criminals that have access to the money steal a portion. This last clown stole money that was meant for radar upgrades for the Moskva that was just sunk.
so in reality, the only crime is embarrassing putin publicly? that seems to fit the facts so far.
 

printer

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Looks increasingly like a done deal to me and a good time to do it while Vlad has 75% of his combat brigades tied up in Ukraine committing atrocities, which also help move public opinion and 68% of Finns want it too. Support is probably less in Sweden, but still a majority and if the Finns go, so will the Swedes. It will lower defense costs in both countries, especially if Vlad's army is destroyed in Ukraine, he is in no position to threaten anybody and won't be for a long time to come. Norway could pay for Sweden's entire military budget with spare change and would in the event of trouble with Russia, Finland too.
How could Norway pay for Sweden's defense costs with spare change?

Norway - Defense In 2016 - $6.0 Billion, 2020 - $7.1B, GDP 2020 - $362B USD

Sweden - Defense - In 2016 - $5.1 Billion, 2020 - $6.2, GDP 2020 - $541B USD
 

JamieThePainter

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How could Norway pay for Sweden's defense costs with spare change?

Norway - Defense In 2016 - $6.0 Billion, 2020 - $7.1B, GDP 2020 - $362B USD

Sweden - Defense - In 2016 - $5.1 Billion, 2020 - $6.2, GDP 2020 - $541B USD
Because the Norwegians are fooking loaded with all that oil money they saved.
 

printer

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Russia accuses Ukrainian forces of shelling Russian village
Russia accused Ukraine’s military of shelling a Russian village on Thursday, alleging seven people were wounded in the attack, including one young child.

The Investigative Committee of Russia claimed that at least six strikes had been carried out in the Russian village of Klimovo, which is located near the borders of Belarus and Ukraine, by two combat helicopters flying at low altitude.

In addition to the seven people injured, at least six residential buildings were hit, Russia claimed. The committee said it opened a criminal case as a result of the alleged shelling.


“The investigation established that persons from among the military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine entered into a criminal conspiracy among themselves in order to influence the adoption by the authorities of the Russian Federation of a decision to terminate the special military operation,” the Investigative Committee said, referring to Russia’s ongoing invasion of Ukraine.

Multiple news reports noted that Ukrainian officials did not immediately respond to Russia’s accusation.

Earlier this month, a Russian regional governor alleged that a fuel depot in the city of Belgorod had been targeted by Ukrainian forces.

So it is ok to invade a country but not to shell a village of the country that invaded you. Got it.
 

printer

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https://www.statista.com/topics/7457/key-economic-indicators-of-scandinavia/#dossierContents__outerWrapper

in particular look at the GDP charts...looks like they're running close to even to me, one is better if you look at actual dollars, one is better if you look at per capita dollars...
I would like to know how Norway can, I will have to look it up again.

Norway could pay for Sweden's entire military budget with spare change and would in the event of trouble with Russia, Finland too.
Just wondering how much spare change they have to pay for Sweden's military budget. Sounds like a load of BS to me. but I would not have known that without looking it up. It makes whatever DIY-HP-LED questionable, what is truth and what is fiction? What are we to believe. I have questioned statements before.
 

printer

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Pentagon: Russian warship still on fire, can’t confirm cause
A key Russian warship in the Black Sea is on fire though it’s unclear what caused the blaze, a senior U.S. defense official said Thursday.

The crew of the Russian guided-missile cruiser Moskva is still trying to extinguish the flames, which appear to have caused “significant damage” to the ship, the official told reporters.

“Our assessment is that she still appears to be battling a fire on board. But we do not know the extent of the damage, we don’t know about casualties to her crew and we cannot definitively say at this point what caused that damage,” they said.

The official added the ship is moving east, and the U.S. assumes it is heading to the port of Sevastopol in the Crimean peninsula for repairs.

Ukrainian forces earlier on Thursday claimed to have struck the Moskva, seriously damaging what’s known as the flagship of Russia’s Black Sea fleet.

Maksym Marchenko, the governor of the Odesa region, said two Neptune missiles struck the ship, according to The Associated Press.

Russia later acknowledged that the entire crew of the Moskva – which can carry 500 sailors – was forced to evacuate due to an overnight fire. Russia’s Defense Ministry did not mention an attack, only that ammunition on board detonated as a result of a fire, “seriously” damaging the ship. The ministry also said the cause of the fire is still “being established.”

The Kremlin later said efforts are under way to try to tow the ship to port, while Ukraine’s military assessed the ship to be capsized and “sinking.”

The U.S. defense official, meanwhile, said the Russian warship was about 60 to 65 nautical miles south of Odesa when it experienced an explosion.

Other ships in the northern Black Sea have since moved further south, they added.

The heavily damaged ship appears to be another blow to Moscow, which has struggled in its invasion of Ukraine that began Feb. 24.
 
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