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Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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DIY-HP-LED said:
Let's see, they make death threats on twitter against the owner of twitter. Well Elon does believe in free speech and will let Donald back on, but I suspect Donald will be in a cage before then. He still has work to do tearing the GOP apart over, his vengeance tour, endorsing psychos and lunatics, the big lie and making it their main thing for 2022, in the face of J6 and legal trouble.

It looks like Putin might be counting on the midterms too, if the republicans win, Trump will force them to cut funding for Ukraine after Vlad gives him a call, a few mean tweets should do it.
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Uh, Looks Like Russia’s Space Chief Threatened Elon Musk on Twitter

Musk alleges the Roscosmos head threatened him for supplying the Ukrainian military with Starlink terminals.
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well boo fucking hoo bitch...you got involved in a war with a country that has a long history of attempted assassinations, what the fuck did you think was going to happen? money doesn't protect you from homicidal psychopaths with a nations's resources behind them.
you involved yourself, fucking deal with the consequences like a man
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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schuylaar said:
This guy is really good if you really want to know the theater.
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He's an airline pilot, or was before the war. If Ukraine ended up with ex American C130s (Hercules) one day for military transport, he could be flying one, or even training pilots. Right now he's a displaced person living in western Ukraine trying to scratch out a living and support the war effort.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
well boo fucking hoo bitch...you got involved in a war with a country that has a long history of attempted assassinations, what the fuck did you think was going to happen? money doesn't protect you from homicidal psychopaths with a nations's resources behind them.
you involved yourself, fucking deal with the consequences like a man
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It's really Elon's starlink that has a serious hair up their ass. Using it to control cheap drones that can be near stealth to the Russians, Elon is now part of the American industrial complex and his company is also vital for American access in space. Starlink has such a low latency and high data rate that you can fly a fighter drone with 4K vision and multiple cameras and sensors from the other side of the planet, just as you can play a video game like a flight sim now. Needless to say Uncle Sam needs to control this technology and limit it's use for such things to allies. It uses phase array antennas that don't need to track satellites and connectivity will increase as latency decreases as more satellites go up. So something like a Bayraktar drone with two phased array antennas buried in the wings and a diversity transceiver is easily possible. These could be given to say a ring of former soviet republics in a NATO like defensive military alliance against Russian aggression. America can monitor them, control them or pull the pin on them in an instant, if circumstances required. We saw how effective these drone were in Ukraine and these would be very hard to jam and the quality of the data feed would be orders of magnitude better. They would be more stealth and their range limited only by design and fuel supply.

Russia needs to be worried about this much more than Elon providing some internet services to Ukraine. This is a military technology game changer they can't match that can be deployed to their many nervous neighbors, along with things like Javelins and NLAWs. It is also fully controlled by America and it can monitor and cut off the service at anytime and can give small allied countries a real edge against Russia. They are cheap and you can make an air force out of gamers and make the drones for cheap, cranking them out like a WW2 aircraft factory from any warehouse, not much special equipment is required and most of it is from mass produced parts bought abroad, from China for cheap too. All ya need is Starlink, Elon owns that and Uncle Uncle Sam pays him well.

If one goes down in Russia after attacking something, blame Elon! :lol:
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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DIY-HP-LED said:
It's really Elon's starlink that has a serious hair up their ass. Using it to control cheap drones that can be near stealth to the Russians, Elon is now part of the American industrial complex and his company is also vital for American access in space. Starlink has such a low latency and high data rate that you can fly a fighter drone with 4K vision and multiple cameras and sensors from the other side of the planet, just as you can play a video game like a flight sim now. Needless to say Uncle Sam needs to control this technology and limit it's use for such things to allies. It uses phase array antennas that don't need to track satellites and connectivity will increase as latency decreases as more satellites go up. So something like a Bayraktar drone with two phased array antennas buried in the wings and a diversity transceiver is easily possible. These could be given to say a ring of former soviet republics in a NATO like defensive military alliance against Russian aggression. America can monitor them, control them or pull the pin on them in an instant, if circumstances required. We saw how effective these drone were in Ukraine and these would be very hard to jam and the quality of the data feed would be orders of magnitude better. They would be more stealth and their range limited only by design and fuel supply.

Russia needs to be worried about this much more than Elon providing some internet services to Ukraine. This is a military technology game changer they can't match that can be deployed to their many nervous neighbors, along with things like Javelins and NLAWs. It is also fully controlled by America and it can monitor and cut off the service at anytime and can give small allied countries a real edge against Russia. They are cheap and you can make an air force out of gamers and make the drones for cheap, cranking them out like a WW2 aircraft factory from any warehouse, not much special equipment is required and most of it is from mass produced parts bought abroad, from China for cheap too. All ya need is Starlink, Elon owns that and Uncle Uncle Sam pays him well.

If one goes down in Russia after attacking something, blame Elon! :lol:
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yeah, and any other country on the planet can use the same technology to commit genocide, to kill civilians, to carry out assassinations...you say it can be shut down remotely, but there are a lot of talented hackers out there, at least as good as the people musk has working for him, i wouldn't count on that being a very effective off switch...
and what happens to all that hardware after the conflicts are over? how many units get new id and then reported as destroyed? how many hackers are going to learn to build their own terminals that bypass musk's security? anything the tech sector can build, civilian hackers can disassemble, alter to their liking, and reassemble in a few days.
i think we may be blaming elon for a lot in a couple of years.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
yeah, and any other country on the planet can use the same technology to commit genocide, to kill civilians, to carry out assassinations...you say it can be shut down remotely, but there are a lot of talented hackers out there, at least as good as the people musk has working for him, i wouldn't count on that being a very effective off switch...
and what happens to all that hardware after the conflicts are over? how many units get new id and then reported as destroyed? how many hackers are going to learn to build their own terminals that bypass musk's security? anything the tech sector can build, civilian hackers can disassemble, alter to their liking, and reassemble in a few days.
i think we may be blaming elon for a lot in a couple of years.
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Oh there are issues, but Elon presented the technology and Uncle Sam recognizes it's potential, other American and European companies will be in on the game as well as the Chinese. I'm not a big fan myself, but I recognize it's utility in intelligence, clandestine operations and by the military to destroy enemies. If the national security community and military don't have security and complete control of starlink for these kinds of operations, they won't be doing their jobs. I don't expect to see starlink on any RC planes or drones, but they are not the only issue. You can also control a plane and fly it FPV via a 4G cellphone network with a network dongle and sim card. I can post a YouTube video on how to do it etc. I noticed some of the commercial and military drones do this now too. Much of this stuff was posted on the RC groups forum awhile back, it's a pretty engineer heavy hobby, new things and products all the time, to a specialty market.
 
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American Puma drones from the same folks who make switchblades
‎Zaporizhzhya defenders received the latest drones‎


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They got em running around like chickens in a panic, the guys with guns are miles away and this softens up the defensive positions before they arrive. I see they have expanded operations greatly with new drones and lot's of private and government international support. A couple of guys with guns won't kill nearly as many Russians as ones with a drone a few bombs and some spare batteries can. The drone can also take out parked tanks, trucks and APCs and other vehicles, imagine what a couple of dozen of them could do operating day and night 24/7 bombing drone style, no rest for the wicked. A half dozen of these guys would be a welcome addition to any combat unit and instead of the guys dealing with machine guns and tanks, the drones can, the day and night before they move out to attack. It's also a very cheap way to kill Russians and destroy or disable their equipment and logistics.
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Russian troops dug-in hit with drone-dropped improvised munition

 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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WTF is this gizmo?

It's a GPS antenna tracker used to extend the range of a RC planes or drone's video link. by pointing a high gain antenna at it using GPS and cheap servos, or you can by a equally cheap tracker to mount the antenna on and control it with this. Mount it to and extendable pole stabilized by guy wires and tent pegs, so that it's 30 feet up in the air and the tracker head will lock the high gain antenna on the drone using it's GPS info. This can be used with a different long range antenna and be coupled to a low power 5.8ghz video transmitter ($20.) and everything controlled from a foxhole a mile away. Likewise with the control signal, it too can be pointed in a narrow beam at the drone by the tracker to avoid detection, extend range and it too is relayed from the remote foxhole.

The main things to note are the technical capabilities and the cost of the equipment when compared to military stuff where a precision artillery round can cost $40,000. Using this with dragon link for control and 1.3 GHZ for video would give a cheap drone long range and safety for the operator. Even the skinny antenna, battery and electronics would be hard to hit and knock out with artillery and the operator is a mile away in a foxhole, linked by low power HF signals that don't carry far at all.

Just to give folks an idea of costs, capabilities and why the Ukrainian drone and RC hobby community started all this shit with civilian equipment that nobody thought would work in a modern war zone. I works against the Russians at least, is cheap and readily available online. They also use dirt cheap munitions like anti tank grenades and hand grenades to kill troops and destroy million dollar equipment for $50 bucks. Destroy enough million dollar shit for $50 bucks and you will break anybody's bank, especially Vlad's.
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