States and Abortion

[xtsho]

Some of the states with the most restrictive abortion laws and large pro-life movements are also the states that execute the most prisoners. Another example of the hypocrisy on the right.

They're all out there saying it's God's decision but then they never fail to show up for the tailgating party at an execution when man decides.

 

[Star Dog]

Women absolutely should have that choice/right available to them if they decide its best, I'm surprised it's even open to question and shocked it's not legal in some states in this day and age.

 

[xtsho]

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Challenging an abortion law using religious freedom. Now it's a fight between different religions. Things are going to get messy.


"As such, the act prohibits Jewish women from practicing their faith free of government intrusion and this violates their privacy rights and religious freedom," says the lawsuit, filed Friday in Leon County Circuit Court.

Florida's new abortion law violates religious freedom, a synagogue's lawsuit says

The suit contends the law violates Jewish teachings, which state abortion "is required if necessary to protect the health, mental or physical well-being of the woman" and for other reasons.

www.npr.org

 

[OldMedUser]

So the troll drags you all into his little trap and sits there laughing his/her/it's ass off at you while you yank his tiny pee-pee for him.

 

[mudballs]

But those were choices you made, right? No one forced you did they? You could have walked away with your pride, no?

i made the choices until further information was available. I once worked as a promoter for a musician that had a charity for abused and neglected children...one day the dude walked up to me and said "i'm gonna lose my house if we don't make more money!"....that's when it clicked, this dude is just running a scam!! so i walked away.

 

[Kassiopeija]

Embryos are not living humans yet

Of course they are. Maybe not due to some outdated definition but that needs to be changed. Just because the embryo is carried inside and still bound. Heck, you wouldn't call an egg a "mother hen". And now there's stages where evolution even designed an intermediary concept - marsupials.

Science can sharply differentiate both organisms from one another, ie. DNA or biological barriers
When I was inside my mothers womb, I was already a human, and what I did was *growing* (which is evident of an autonomous will to live.)

These that cry for woman's rights completely forget that half of killed embryo's were female, too - deprived of a right to live.
I sincerely believe should be extended before birth, that is an antique view to label the formation of a human.

Though there should be exceptions like rape-cases. But this problem would be better solved by securing that rapes don't happen in the first place. The US ranks quite high and far beyond the average cases worldwide so it seems to me to a double win to prevent a rape victim's trauma and an abortion.

Rape Statistics by Country 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

 

[Kassiopeija]

So the troll drags you all into his little trap and sits there laughing his/her/it's ass off at you while you yank his tiny pee-pee for him.

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This constant and systematic labelling of "otherthinkers" as trolls and thereby trying to deprive them of legitimacy reeks of fascistic totalitarian stench.

 

[Kassiopeija]

and the very same people jump right into any thread which title doesn't suit their party's propaganda and troll it to death by posting infantile troll pics and a boatload of ridiculing nonsense, but yeah, the others are trolls. or russians. or whatever. just put a bad sticker on them. but don't - never ever - adress the topic at hand in a sincere & decent manner.

 

[CunningCanuk]

This troll’s thread is still up?

 

[OldMedUser]

This constant and systematic labelling of "otherthinkers" as trolls and thereby trying to deprive them of legitimacy reeks of fascistic totalitarian stench.

The OP trolls almost every thread he gets into so you can take your 'otherthinkers' theory and otherthink it somewhere the sun never shines.

Throws a controversial subject up in the air tho he never makes a further response while he sits back and watches his fun. Purely a troll move if I've ever seen one.

There's a sucker born every minute and your minute is up.

 

[potroastV2]

This troll’s thread is still up?

Yeah, I know. I knew it would turn out to be a troll thread when it was posted.

If you don't remember my definition of a troll thread: a member starts a thread with just "discuss," and then doesn't participate in the discussion.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

Of course they are. Maybe not due to some outdated definition but that needs to be changed. Just because the embryo is carried inside and still bound. Heck, you wouldn't call an egg a "mother hen". And now there's stages where evolution even designed an intermediary concept - marsupials.

Science can sharply differentiate both organisms from one another, ie. DNA or biological barriers
When I was inside my mothers womb, I was already a human, and what I did was *growing* (which is evident of an autonomous will to live.)

These that cry for woman's rights completely forget that half of killed embryo's were female, too - deprived of a right to live.
I sincerely believe should be extended before birth, that is an antique view to label the formation of a human.

Though there should be exceptions like rape-cases. But this problem would be better solved by securing that rapes don't happen in the first place. The US ranks quite high and far beyond the average cases worldwide so it seems to me to a double win to prevent a rape victim's trauma and an abortion.

Rape Statistics by Country 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

when a "person" starts to have thoughts, then they are a person...until then, they are an unthinking mass of tissue. a fetus doesn't even start to grow the parts of a brain that are responsible for thought until they are at least 12 to 15 weeks old, and the coordinated activity that indicates thought cannot occur until the 24th or 25th week.
so i don't care about your "feelings" on the matter, those are the facts...no conciousness, not a life...and no conciousness till at least 20 weeks, and that is being generous..

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

This constant and systematic labelling of "otherthinkers" as trolls and thereby trying to deprive them of legitimacy reeks of fascistic totalitarian stench.

you reek of troll sweat...

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

and the very same people jump right into any thread which title doesn't suit their party's propaganda and troll it to death by posting infantile troll pics and a boatload of ridiculing nonsense, but yeah, the others are trolls. or russians. or whatever. just put a bad sticker on them. but don't - never ever - adress the topic at hand in a sincere & decent manner.

i just did, can't wait to see your serious reply....

 

[doublejj]

i just did, can't wait to see your serious reply....

You will have to wait until tomorrow. Comrade works the day shift and it's 10:30pm in Moscow....

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

You will have to wait until tomorrow. Comrade works the day shift and it's 10:30pm in Moscow....
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whenever i see a picture of the kremlin like that i expect to see the Disney parade of lights going past it...

 

[Drop That Sound]

What if you were dating one out of a set of dicephalus parapagus conjoined twin sisters, and sh.. ahem, they* got pregnant.

The one that is your girlfriend wanted to get an abortion, but the other one does not?

How would it work out like as far as who's body and who's choice it is, when they both share the same reproductive system, yet have 2 completely different heads and consciosnesses?

Are twins like that always on the same vibe, or could one of them be liberal and the other conservative?

 

[Drop That Sound]

Would there be a court case between them?

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

What if you were dating one out of a set of dicephalus parapagus conjoined twin sisters, and sh.. ahem, they* got pregnant.

The one that is your girlfriend wanted to get an abortion, but the other one does not?

How would it work out like as far as who's body and who's choice it is, when they both share the same reproductive system, yet have 2 completely different heads and consciosnesses?

Are twins like that always on the same vibe, or could one of them be liberal and the other conservative?

i don't know, i guess the carnies would have a knife fight behind the freak show tent, winner take all?
yeah, i'm an insensitive asshole...
that would have to be up to them to work out. it's hard enough to make things work even close to right when the people involved don't have special needs.

 

[Rob Roy]

when a "person" starts to have thoughts, then they are a person...until then, they are an unthinking mass of tissue. a fetus doesn't even start to grow the parts of a brain that are responsible for thought until they are at least 12 to 15 weeks old, and the coordinated activity that indicates thought cannot occur until the 24th or 25th week.
so i don't care about your "feelings" on the matter, those are the facts...no conciousness, not a life...and no conciousness till at least 20 weeks, and that is being generous..

Uncle Charlie has dementia and his thoughts are all messed up. Kill him?