Is Biden really that bad?

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Fogdog

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The chicken is coming home to roost
yeah, I know. Despite the narrative blared on full blast that Biden is failing, his administration has been doing well in terms of managing the economy. Facts are facts. Despite the spin that the "I hope Biden fails" camp are giving, his performance is anything but a failure.

Another chicken is coming home too:

Kansas abortion vote: Pro-life amendment fails, in first post-Roe vote

This is being viewed as an indicator of public sentiment toward the orthodoxy that Republicans have been shoving.

And how about this from 538 , a site that specializes in statistical analysis and forecasting results

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With the caveat that the only poll that matters is an election poll. And the fact that opinion polls at this time only project current sentiment and are not useful for predicting an election result in the fall, I'll say this.

Those charts from 538 showing a near even split in chances for Democrats and Republicans to take control of the House and the Senate. A year ago, analysts were projecting a definite advantage to Republicans. The trend lines are up and to the right for Democrats. All very tentative. Same with economic projections. But I feel much more easy about the chances of Democrats retaining control of government right now than I did a year ago.
 
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Fogdog

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What's with the Republican label? I've said time and time again, political parties don't matter. It's where your head and heart and integrity intersect.

Let me teach you something Herb. There's two types of people in this world- people who want to tell other people what to do and people who want to be left alone. I'll leave the rest of the thinking up to you.
uh, no.

Trump lost the election. He lost because he was a shitty president and a large majority voted him out. Trump conspired with people within the Republican Party to overthrow the election. Jan 6 happened and the Republican Party showed the American people who they really are -- anti democratic and neo-fascist. There is no way to walk that back. Right now there are three types of people -- fascist, anti-fascist and people who aren't paying attention.
 

Offmymeds

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The honor system just doesnt work. Can you tell me the percentage of poor people who are unable to obtain an ID? Maybe Joe can fix that in his next spending plan.
I clearly explained to you by my own experience of the troubles it imposes on the disabled. Poor people are far more transient & therefore far more affected. There are 37.2 million living below the poverty line. Students, of course, are likewise affected and the GOP are taking away polling places on campus.

Maybe the GOP should just create fake electors to get around those damn voters.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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yeah, I know. Despite the narrative blared on full blast that Biden is failing, his administration has been doing well in terms of managing the economy. Facts are facts. Despite the spin that the "I hope Biden fails" camp are giving, his performance is anything but a failure.

Another chicken is coming home too:

Kansas abortion vote: Pro-life amendment fails, in first post-Roe vote

This is being viewed as an indicator of public sentiment toward the orthodoxy that Republicans have been shoving.

And how about this from 538 , a site that specializes in statistical analysis and forecasting results

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With the caveat that the only poll that matters is an election poll. And the fact that opinion polls at this time only project current sentiment, and are not useful for predicting an election result in the fall, I'll say this.

Those charts from 538 showing a near even split in chances for Democrats and Republicans to take control of the House and the Senate. A year ago, analysts were projecting a definite advantage to Republicans. The trend lines are up and to the right for Democrats. All very tentative. Same with economic projections. But I feel much more easy about the chances of Democrats retaining control of government right now than I did a year ago.
By election day things may change on many fronts from the war to America. The abortion polls reveal an interesting thing in Kansas, polls indicated abortion was a much lower factor, however the referendum showed otherwise by a lot from what I heard. This is a Trump effect, people are reluctant to admit their true views, even to pollsters because of local social pressure and mistrust of institutions, including polls.

This has been more than noticed in DC and expect the democrats to mobilize women around it. This and Trump's trouble inside the GOP and court could hand the democrats a miracle and America deliverance.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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By election day things may change on many fronts from the war to America. The abortion polls reveal an interesting thing in Kansas, polls indicated abortion was a much lower factor, however the referendum showed otherwise by a lot from what I heard. This is a Trump effect, people are reluctant to admit their true views, even to pollsters because of local social pressure and mistrust of institutions, including polls.

This has been more than noticed in DC and expect the democrats to mobilize women around it. This and Trump's trouble inside the GOP and court could hand the democrats a miracle and America deliverance.
you know when we win, we're going to have to go medieval hard on the entire republican establishment...they can't be allowed to run loose and cause more shit. Every one of them that we can prove guilty should be doing hard time.
one of the first things to get passed are domestic terrorism laws to disarm their radical militant arm, then we have to have some psychological testing for officers in the military for sure, and probably non coms as well. anyone who fails gets an honorable discharge and gets to keep their pension...but they're done in the military or law enforcement...which brings me to pretty much the same deal for cops, except they all get tested, annually, and they get a lot more training on when it's appropriate to use force, and to what degree.
this fucking shit has just gotten ridiculously out of hand, and it's got to fucking stop. now.
 

NYCBambu

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Imagine letting non citizens having the ability to vote, HA!
Thats what they want, a free for all. Whatever it takes to
I clearly explained to you by my own experience of the troubles it imposes on the disabled. Poor people are far more transient & therefore far more affected. There are 37.2 million living below the poverty line. Students, of course, are likewise affected and the GOP are taking away polling places on campus.

Maybe the GOP should just create fake electors to get around those damn voters.
I dont see how students are effected when they all have to carry student ID. Transients? Do you really think people on skid row are into voting? Sorry I'm just not seeing it. Disabled people can get ID too, it really should not be an issue. Too easy to mail in a million phony votes with no ID. Thats what happened to Trump last election. He was winning all day and all night. Next thing you know there is a massive 3 AM vote dump, all Biden votes.
 

NYCBambu

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yeah, I know. Despite the narrative blared on full blast that Biden is failing, his administration has been doing well in terms of managing the economy. Facts are facts. Despite the spin that the "I hope Biden fails" camp are giving, his performance is anything but a failure.

Another chicken is coming home too:

Kansas abortion vote: Pro-life amendment fails, in first post-Roe vote

This is being viewed as an indicator of public sentiment toward the orthodoxy that Republicans have been shoving.

And how about this from 538 , a site that specializes in statistical analysis and forecasting results

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With the caveat that the only poll that matters is an election poll. And the fact that opinion polls at this time only project current sentiment, and are not useful for predicting an election result in the fall, I'll say this.

Those charts from 538 showing a near even split in chances for Democrats and Republicans to take control of the House and the Senate. A year ago, analysts were projecting a definite advantage to Republicans. The trend lines are up and to the right for Democrats. All very tentative. Same with economic projections. But I feel much more easy about the chances of Democrats retaining control of government right now than I did a year ago.
Did you just say doing well with the economy? Joe has led us into a recession, the toilet bowl.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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you know when we win, we're going to have to go medieval hard on the entire republican establishment...they can't be allowed to run loose and cause more shit. Every one of them that we can prove guilty should be doing hard time.
one of the first things to get passed are domestic terrorism laws to disarm their radical militant arm, then we have to have some psychological testing for officers in the military for sure, and probably non coms as well. anyone who fails gets an honorable discharge and gets to keep their pension...but they're done in the military or law enforcement...which brings me to pretty much the same deal for cops, except they all get tested, annually, and they get a lot more training on when it's appropriate to use force, and to what degree.
this fucking shit has just gotten ridiculously out of hand, and it's got to fucking stop. now.
I keep tell'en ya they will resurrect the independent special counsel law and appoint someone who will hound them to Hell for a few years until the law expires. It is what it was designed to do, bust politicians with public hearings and prosecutions, congress people and presidential administrations. Garland can deal with the suckers who stormed the capitol and those at the very top like Trump, while handing the rest off to the hired help. Congress has much to do, if the democrats win both house and senate. So will the DOJ, when they pass anti domestic terrorist laws and have a domestic terrorist watch list, add in hate and election crimes and it will be a full plate busting republican lunatics, psychos, criminals and dupes. You'll have to move the non violent drug offenders out of the federal prisons to make room for the new bunch.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
yeah, I know. Despite the narrative blared on full blast that Biden is failing, his administration has been doing well in terms of managing the economy. Facts are facts. Despite the spin that the "I hope Biden fails" camp are giving, his performance is anything but a failure.

Another chicken is coming home too:

Kansas abortion vote: Pro-life amendment fails, in first post-Roe vote

This is being viewed as an indicator of public sentiment toward the orthodoxy that Republicans have been shoving.

And how about this from 538 , a site that specializes in statistical analysis and forecasting results

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With the caveat that the only poll that matters is an election poll. And the fact that opinion polls at this time only project current sentiment, and are not useful for predicting an election result in the fall, I'll say this.

Those charts from 538 showing a near even split in chances for Democrats and Republicans to take control of the House and the Senate. A year ago, analysts were projecting a definite advantage to Republicans. The trend lines are up and to the right for Democrats. All very tentative. Same with economic projections. But I feel much more easy about the chances of Democrats retaining control of government right now than I did a year ago.
expect the blue line to get a boost when Cheney Of Evidence S2 airs.
 

hanimmal

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Thats what they want, a free for all. Whatever it takes to

I dont see how students are effected when they all have to carry student ID. Transients? Do you really think people on skid row are into voting? Sorry I'm just not seeing it. Disabled people can get ID too, it really should not be an issue. Too easy to mail in a million phony votes with no ID. Thats what happened to Trump last election. He was winning all day and all night. Next thing you know there is a massive 3 AM vote dump, all Biden votes.

Did you just say doing well with the economy? Joe has led us into a recession, the toilet bowl.
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Fogdog

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He actually kept us from going in to a depression thanks to TFG
That's what I mean about Republicans being anti-America. They want Biden to fail. They want everybody to just forget that Trump led us into recession due to his bungled management of the epidemic. Like predicting the weather going forward by looking out the window. It is true that the US economy is staggering, maybe has re-entered a technical recession regardless of official metrics. Recession is a backward-looking metric. As I showed in my post above, businesses are reporting that things are looking up. But Republicans want America to fail. For their own political gain.
 

NYCBambu

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He actually kept us from going in to a depression thanks to TFG
Whats TFG? I told you, I dont make stuff up. yes we are in a recession. How many references do you need?

 

NYCBambu

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hanimmal

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cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
That's what I mean about Republicans being anti-America. They want Biden to fail. They want everybody to just forget that Trump led us into recession due to his bungled management of the epidemic. Like predicting the weather going forward by looking out the window. It is true that the US economy is staggering, maybe has re-entered a technical recession regardless of official metrics. Recession is a backward-looking metric. As I showed in my post above, businesses are reporting that things are looking up. But Republicans want America to fail. For their own political gain.
They do not believe that they are anti-America, because in their minds America no longer means its central tenet to the rest of us: a pluralistic republic. The word has been decoupled from its meaning.

They want Biden to fail because down deep they believe that will trigger the end times, justifying their apocalypse readiness expenses.

It highlights why “may your wishes come true” is a curse.
 
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Herb & Suds

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Whats TFG? I told you, I dont make stuff up. yes we are in a recession. How many references do you need?

Table issues
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NYCBambu

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Thats very nice, but does not change the definition of what a recession actually is. Gross domestic product in the U.S. fell 0.9% in the second quarter of 2022, marking the second consecutive quarter of negative growth, the commonly accepted definition of a recession. Democrats will change the definition of what a woman is, what a recession is, what a vaccine is. Anything the babies dont like they just change to suit themselves.
 
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