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Lucky Luke

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not an option locally.

Also, you imply operating a chest freezer. A typical one draws one MWh per annum. Locally that is $550 per annum at my base day rate here - not counting the fact that the usage pushes me up one tier, as much as doubling that cost.

Your experience does not generalize.
No farmers near you or that could courier?
I do operate a small chest freezer and two small upright freezers when needed and a fridge with a freezer both in the house and in the shed. Fridge in the kitchen is a small one and the one in the shed is a large one (beer fridge).
I get 1/2 a cow and started at 1/4. Price per kilo is the same. Family's here split a full. Full lamb doesn't take up much freezer space.

I'm sure my experience doesn't generalize especially for city people but it may for a number of rural people. The price for meat at the supermarkets (even locally) does not justify the wholesale cost.
 
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cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
No farmers near you or that could courier?
I do operate a small chest freezer and two small upright freezers when needed and a fridge with a freezer both in the house and in the shed. Fridge in the kitchen is a small one and the one in the shed is a large one (beer fridge).
I get 1/2 a cow and started at 1/4. Price per kilo is the same. Family's here split a full. Full lamb doesn't take up much freezer space.

I'm sure my experience doesn't generalize especially for city people but it may for a number of rural people. The price for meat at the supermarkets (even locally) does not justify the wholesale cost.
… in the Mojave?

also, how long does it take you (one unassisted person) to break a side of beef into individual portions all tucked into the freezer whose economics you ignored?
 

Lucky Luke

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… in the Mojave?

also, how long does it take you (one unassisted person) to break a side of beef into individual portions all tucked into the freezer whose economics you ignored?
Naa just a shed.
Not long. it's all butchered and dressed to the order. Silverside for eg comes corned or fresh and cryovaced. The time consuming part is cutting the mince and snags down to nightly portions, mainly the mince as i use a scale. Steaks and roasts don't take to long. Takes me about an hr and a 1/2 to split it all for a 4 person meal, bagged labelled and in the freezer i recon. Its not a huge exercise.
It's the economics of scale an I'm not ignoring it.
 
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Roger A. Shrubber

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… in the Mojave?

also, how long does it take you (one unassisted person) to break a side of beef into individual portions all tucked into the freezer whose economics you ignored?
4 to 6 hours if you keep at it, around 8 if you fuck off at all...unless you're just mangling it into wrappable size chunks, in that case, about 2 hours
 

HGCC

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What are we bickering about now, buying cows?

When possible you should buy a half or whole from a local-ish farmer, assuming you eat that much beef. Even if a bit more expensive (always much cheaper i hear, but dont know), it will be of great quality and you are supporting local places.

You gotta keep it whole though, chop of chunks with an ax. Otherwise it's bullshit and you are a commie.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
What are we bickering about now, buying cows?

When possible you should buy a half or whole from a local-ish farmer, assuming you eat that much beef. Even if a bit more expensive (always much cheaper i hear, but dont know), it will be of great quality and you are supporting local places.

You gotta keep it whole though, chop of chunks with an ax. Otherwise it's bullshit and you are a commie.
I live alone. If the meat were free, the economics of operating a chest freezer in a garage that routinely tops out above 110 degrees (44c) mean buying my meat retail is still cheaper. Though Walmart beef is now 160% what it was a year ago.
 

HGCC

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I'm ok with paying some farmer more than what I what I would be willing to pay at Walmart. I guess the dollar amount limit for me would be based around whole foods (calling it Complete Foods makes me laugh so much) OR a fancy meat store. There is also an argument to be made for not freezing meat. I don't eat it enough to buy in bulk.
 

ANC

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Sanctions squeeze has Russia stripping planes for spare parts: report
A group of Russian airlines is stripping planes of spare parts as sanctions implemented due to Moscow’s invasion of Ukraine impact the country.

Sources told Reuters on Monday that major Russian airlines such as Aeroflot have grounded their planes so they can be disassembled for spare parts, adding that airlines are taking parts from their planes to keep them airworthy.

Russian-made Sukhoi Superjets, which are dependent on assembled foreign parts, have already started the disassembly process, removing an engine from a grounded jet to allow another Superjet to continue flying.

The disused airplanes from which parts are removed to keep others flying are often referred to as “Christmas trees.” The process is linked to financial difficulties due to widespread reshuffling from the sanctions imposed by Western powers, according to Reuters.

Sanctions on Moscow stem from its unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, which began in February, and have prevented Russia from obtaining spare engine parts or undergoing maintenance checks in Western countries.

Oleg Panteleev, the head of the Aviaport aviation think tank, told Reuters that most Western-based manufacturers know that Sukhoi Superjets fully operate in Russia.

“Western manufacturers understand that almost all Superjets are being operated in Russia,” Panteleev said. “You can simply stop producing and shipping spare parts – and it will hurt.”

Russian officials hope that some of the used aircraft parts will ensure that foreign-built aircrafts can continue to fly through 2025, Reuters reported.

A source also said that due to the Western-imposed sanctions, unused jets are being stripped for spare parts, as Russian jets are currently flying fewer routes than normal.

This comes as Aeroloft has experienced a 22 percent traffic fall due to the Western-imposed sanctions against Russia, according to data provided by the company.

Sources also told the news wire that Middle East and Asian companies may be at risk of secondary sanctions from Western powers if they provide aircraft supplies to Russia.
Sound like my home country.... We rented planes, then started pirating them to fix up broken ones while spending the maintenance budget... now that stock is so messed up it can not even be returned....
 

printer

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Pentagon confirms anti-radiation missiles sent to Ukraine
The Department of Defense’s top policy official confirmed on Monday that the U.S. has sent anti-radiation missiles to Ukraine, the first time the department has acknowledged sending the missiles.

Colin Kahl, undersecretary of Defense for Policy, said the missiles have been sent as part of “recent” presidential drawdown authority (PDA) packages, meaning that the Pentagon has been sending these weapons from its own stockpiles.

“In recent PDA packages, we’ve included a number of anti-radiation missiles that can be fired off of Ukrainian aircraft that can have effects on Russia radars and other things,” Kahl said.

Kahl didn’t say how many anti-radiation missiles were sent to Ukraine or the specific type.

But a defense official told CNN that the U.S. has sent the AGM-88 High-Speed Anti-Radiation Missile (HARM), manufactured by Raytheon. According to the outlet, reports have shown the remains of a HARM missile that hit a Russian target inside Ukraine.

The Pentagon declined to comment outside of Kahl’s remarks.

The AGM-88 HARM is an air-to-surface tactical missile that has a range of at least 30 miles, and is designed to find and destroy radar-equipped air defense systems, according to the U.S. Air Force’s website.

The disclosure came as the Pentagon announced a $1 billion weapons package for Ukraine, which among other things includes ammunition for High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMRAS) and 75,000 rounds of 155mm artillery and ammunition.

Kahl made the comments as he was speaking about how the Pentagon has been working to boost the Ukrainian Air Force’s capabilities.

He acknowledged that the U.S. has sent spare parts and other things to help Ukraine make better use of its own MiG-29 fighter jets, but said that “it’s not inconceivable” that Kyiv could receive Western aircraft “down the road.”
 

BudmanTX

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oh yeah lets bring other countries into your stupidity.........



oh and there are reports NK was gonna send workers to rebuild the donbas area too......this is too rich....
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I'm ok with paying some farmer more than what I what I would be willing to pay at Walmart. I guess the dollar amount limit for me would be based around whole foods (calling it Complete Foods makes me laugh so much) OR a fancy meat store. There is also an argument to be made for not freezing meat. I don't eat it enough to buy in bulk.
I doubt there is a Whole Foods or a top-flight butcher within 2 full hours each way. Fuel at >$5. becomes a factor.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Pentagon confirms anti-radiation missiles sent to Ukraine
The Department of Defense’s top policy official confirmed on Monday that the U.S. has sent anti-radiation missiles to Ukraine, the first time the department has acknowledged sending the missiles.

Colin Kahl, undersecretary of Defense for Policy, said the missiles have been sent as part of “recent” presidential drawdown authority (PDA) packages, meaning that the Pentagon has been sending these weapons from its own stockpiles.

“In recent PDA packages, we’ve included a number of anti-radiation missiles that can be fired off of Ukrainian aircraft that can have effects on Russia radars and other things,” Kahl said.

Kahl didn’t say how many anti-radiation missiles were sent to Ukraine or the specific type.

But a defense official told CNN that the U.S. has sent the AGM-88 High-Speed Anti-Radiation Missile (HARM), manufactured by Raytheon. According to the outlet, reports have shown the remains of a HARM missile that hit a Russian target inside Ukraine.

The Pentagon declined to comment outside of Kahl’s remarks.

The AGM-88 HARM is an air-to-surface tactical missile that has a range of at least 30 miles, and is designed to find and destroy radar-equipped air defense systems, according to the U.S. Air Force’s website.

The disclosure came as the Pentagon announced a $1 billion weapons package for Ukraine, which among other things includes ammunition for High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMRAS) and 75,000 rounds of 155mm artillery and ammunition.

Kahl made the comments as he was speaking about how the Pentagon has been working to boost the Ukrainian Air Force’s capabilities.

He acknowledged that the U.S. has sent spare parts and other things to help Ukraine make better use of its own MiG-29 fighter jets, but said that “it’s not inconceivable” that Kyiv could receive Western aircraft “down the road.”
I imagine that the big military contractors are very happy to have a shot (so to say) at testing some of their wares in battlefield conditions against the enemy for which they were designed.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Belarusian Opposition Leader: 'We Underestimated The Cruelty' Of Lukashenka's Regime
9,223 views Aug 9, 2022 Two years after the August 2020 presidential election in Belarus that was widely seen as rigged, exiled opposition leader Svyatlana Tsikhanouskaya conceded that the opponents of strongman ruler Alyaksandr Lukashenka "underestimated the cruelty of the regime."
 

BudmanTX

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Belarusian Opposition Leader: 'We Underestimated The Cruelty' Of Lukashenka's Regime
9,223 views Aug 9, 2022 Two years after the August 2020 presidential election in Belarus that was widely seen as rigged, exiled opposition leader Svyatlana Tsikhanouskaya conceded that the opponents of strongman ruler Alyaksandr Lukashenka "underestimated the cruelty of the regime."
and according to some people, she actually won that election...
 

DIY-HP-LED

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and according to some people, she actually won that election...
Lukashenko is propped up by Putin and when he is weak enough someone will make moves in Belarus, either a coup with the army or revolutionaries trained, armed, financed and injected by Poland and Ukraine. Their first moves would be to cut the rail lines coming from Russia to Belarus and get recognized by Ukraine and Poland. Hopefully Russia will be in such a state of defeat and chaos that it couldn't do much to intervene, Vlad could be busy fighting for his life with a collapsing economy or already dead. Time is on our side and not on Vlad's, every week Russia grows weaker militarily and economically while internal trouble festers, neighbors like Kazakhstan grow bolder and more independent. His entire empire is also now wide open for spying and clandestine sabotage operations by many different countries, who all have a bone to pick with Vlad, or who simply want to weaken Russia. WTF will the place be like in 5 years, if it stays on it's present trajectory?
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Lukashenko is propped up by Putin and when he is weak enough someone will make moves in Belarus, either a coup with the army or revolutionaries trained, armed, financed and injected by Poland and Ukraine. Their first moves would be to cut the rail lines coming from Russia to Belarus and get recognized by Ukraine and Poland. Hopefully Russia will be in such a state of defeat and chaos that it couldn't do much to intervene, Vlad could be busy fighting for his life with a collapsing economy or already dead. Time is on our side and not on Vlad's, every week Russia grows weaker militarily and economically while internal trouble festers, neighbors like Kazakhstan grow bolder and more independent. His entire empire is also now wide open for spying and clandestine sabotage operations by many different countries, who all have a bone to pick with Vlad, or who simply want to weaken Russia. WTF will the place be like in 5 years, if it stays on it's present trajectory?
next election needs UN observers backed by UN peacekeepers and an UNrestricted NATO presence.
 
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