Roger A. Shrubber
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i will give you that...i did preface all of this by saying he is an enormous douche.
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Sir Napsalot
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My fucked-up family matters are eclipsing any political considerations presently
DIY-HP-LED
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Ret. Lt. General: I've got bad news for Mr. Putin
154,787 views Oct 16, 2022 Retired Lieutenant General Mark Hertling discusses the latest developments in Russia's war in Ukraine.
Budzbuddha
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DIY-HP-LED
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More proof that Vlad is running out of missiles and drones. It also shows how big a failure Putin is, after running Russia for over 20 years with a fortune in oil money coming in, and they can't even make the basics, much less missiles or drones. The truth be told, nobody can make sophisticated weapons by themselves anymore, even Uncle Sam buys technology, weapons and parts from allies these days. The globe is too economically interdependent for this shit because it was designed that way after WW2 and those ideas have come to fruition. Allies are the way forward, a country without them will end up like Russia and in the future that will apply to America too.
DIY-HP-LED
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DIY-HP-LED
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Here is a reason to send ATACMS to Ukraine and perhaps even cruise missiles. I dunno why they don't take out those 10 rail entrances into Ukraine, that are probably less than a half dozen now, since they recaptured the rest to the border or close. This kind of weapon with this kind of range should warrant an appropriate response. Take out the rail bridges 100km or so inside Russia on the rail routes to Ukraine with the missiles, trap the Russians in Ukraine and cut them off from supply and also trap the conscripts inside Russia unless they march into Ukraine. Either do it with missiles, special forces, or destroy and suppress the local air defense and do it with aviation. Use the missile for retaliation on electrical substations or rail infrastructure, tit for tat.
If this is gonna be a proxy war with Iran, Russia is gonna lose, these are IRBMs and rate patriot systems in response. So, the Saudi's can pay for them with their $400 billion gift to Ukraine and move behind them in line for them. Since Iran lined up on the side of Russia, the Saudi's will have trouble not playing ball. The oil price rise was about Biden and the heat he's putting on MBS for murder and other bullshit and is an attempt to fuck with the election, a hostile act, just as much as when the Russians did it. He had better hope the democrats don't win, or the CIA might arrange for his rather extended family to chop the fuckers head off, or blow it off, whatever works.
If this is gonna be a proxy war with Iran, Russia is gonna lose, these are IRBMs and rate patriot systems in response. So, the Saudi's can pay for them with their $400 billion gift to Ukraine and move behind them in line for them. Since Iran lined up on the side of Russia, the Saudi's will have trouble not playing ball. The oil price rise was about Biden and the heat he's putting on MBS for murder and other bullshit and is an attempt to fuck with the election, a hostile act, just as much as when the Russians did it. He had better hope the democrats don't win, or the CIA might arrange for his rather extended family to chop the fuckers head off, or blow it off, whatever works.
Roger A. Shrubber
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it would seem iran has chosen sides...it's way past time that they share the full array of sanctions that russia is currently enjoying.
Roger A. Shrubber
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i would guess he wants the participant he is a proxy for to supply him with sufficient weapons to win the war they are fighting for us, at horrible cost in life...while we sit back in safety and watch them die to achieve our goals...what a bastard...
DIY-HP-LED
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They are crowd funding it I imagine. Bring me his head, with or without the body attached and collect a fortune! Get the word out to the Russians and tell them they too can collect, just like turning in a tank! 
They are recruiting a lot of criminals and some of them are probably organized by now, soon they will arrange a shuttle service of tanks and other equipment to the Ukrainians for cash...
They are recruiting a lot of criminals and some of them are probably organized by now, soon they will arrange a shuttle service of tanks and other equipment to the Ukrainians for cash...
DIY-HP-LED
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Wait until they get to the border, and they order them to paint Zs on their equipment! I don't think it's gonna happen, they are too few and gave their reseve equipment and ammo away to the Russians. The Ukrainians are waiting with well-trained territorials in well-fortified and prepared positions. The way has been "prepared" for and advances in their area with mined bridges, roads and IEDs. The Belarussians wouldn't get far before being destroyed and the way opened to Minsk with little in between except Russians and their internal security forces which are of little use in this kind of fight. Internal trouble will erupt, and an alternative government supported by the allies would arise and eventually regime change as the facts on the ground were changed by the population with aid, clandestine operations and external force.
Russians could find themselves cut off and surrounded in another country, an attack on Ukraine by Belarus could be the result, a rapid defeat of Belarus in Ukraine and attacks inside Belarus in earnest and shifting those Belarusians fighting in Ukraine to a new purpose. Poland and the Baltics might take a dim view of Belarus attacking a neighbor and ally and could just cut off and invade Kaliningrad.
Russians could find themselves cut off and surrounded in another country, an attack on Ukraine by Belarus could be the result, a rapid defeat of Belarus in Ukraine and attacks inside Belarus in earnest and shifting those Belarusians fighting in Ukraine to a new purpose. Poland and the Baltics might take a dim view of Belarus attacking a neighbor and ally and could just cut off and invade Kaliningrad.
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cannabineer
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Fateh and Zolfaghar are solid-fueled. The missile used in the 2010 strike into Iraq was Qiam-1, a liquid-bipropellant type very similar to the Scud-3.
DIY-HP-LED
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Maybe Israel or friendly forces in the region could fire a few drones and missiles at their fuel and production facilities?
How about electronic components that are already banned by sanctions? A commercial drone GPS won't do for a fast-moving ballistic missile and inertial guidance systems contain allied components, so, track and crack down. I'm sure Ukrainian and western intelligence are sourcing their suppliers from the shot down drones, it's not so much the tech they are using as how they are getting it.
High tech war is a global enterprise now, so is low tech for that matter, international cooperation and alliances will become more important for everybody moving forward. This war illustrates the reality of the situation, the only way out is a rules based international system and this is the mechanism for controlling this kind of UN charter violation. To be ready and have the ability to fight and maintain a war means following the international rules, which will grow over time, allies are essential.
cannabineer
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1) to what intended effect?
2) to what likely effect?
doing what to or about
No. China.
No. Same reason.
Similarly, the US has weapons manufacturing alliances out of convenience and advantage, not necessity.
That might be a component of the current definition of a superpower.
Roger A. Shrubber
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No...I did not call you a name...I was sarcastically calling Zelensky a bastard, for daring to have demands while sending the best and the brightest his country has to offer off to die in a proxy war, representing NATO and the US.
Sooo...maybe I did indirectly call you a name....¿ And everyone else who can't wait till Ukraine wins the war we're too fucking cowardly to wage ourselves, to begin criticizing them?....