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From what I can gather the intercept 85% of them now and they aren't very accurate when they do strike, nothing to hit a power substation with. I believe they also only carry around a 30 lb warhead, not big by missile standards, like a flying artillery shell which usually contains around 30 lbs of explosive, the rest of the 100 lbs being steel, not required in a drone warhead.

They can have directional antennas pointing a more powerful jamming or even frying beam at them too. Also, those track mounted German AA guns on the likely lines of approach might be effective too. However, something like those cheap light missiles with seekers that can be palletized and commercial truck mounted, would be the most effective and could be deployed in large numbers, something with low to medium range capability. In a war of attrition costs will eventually count and if the Russians fire 100 of those drones and only a couple get through, that's attrition too. It depends on the targets; power infrastructure and cities are worth the extra expense temporarily. However even at this point I don't think the Ukrainians are using much more than manpads and guns to intercept them since they are pretty stealthy and don't produce a big heat signature or radar cross section.
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An Iranian drone carries a 36 kg explosive charge. More than enough to blow a hole into a substation transformer and light the oil coolant. With the transformer on fire you have a pretty good chance of damaging the enamel insulation on the wire. Sure you can have a directional antena. But which direction is the drone going to come from? There is no reason the drone has to do a straight line path to the target. So if you have a power station you need 360 degrees coverage. On attrition rates. The Iranian drones are $10k. So they send 100, that is $1M. Not cheap but not that much. If I remember correctly the Excalibur shell is $100k.
Ukraine Is Shooting Down Russia’s ‘Best Warplanes’; But Video Shows It Is Missing On Cheap & Noisy Iranian Drones?

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Ukraine Is Shooting Down Russia's 'Best Warplanes'; But Video Shows It Is Missing On Cheap & Noisy Iranian Drones?

Russia-Ukraine War: Ukrainian MANPAD missed an incoming Iranian drone used by Russia that went on to hit its target in Kyiv successfully.
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An Iranian drone carries a 36 kg explosive charge. More than enough to blow a hole into a substation transformer and light the oil coolant. With the transformer on fire you have a pretty good chance of damaging the enamel insulation on the wire. Sure you can have a directional antena. But which direction is the drone going to come from? There is no reason the drone has to do a straight line path to the target. So if you have a power station you need 360 degrees coverage. On attrition rates. The Iranian drones are $10k. So they send 100, that is $1M. Not cheap but not that much. If I remember correctly the Excalibur shell is $100k.
Ukraine Is Shooting Down Russia’s ‘Best Warplanes’; But Video Shows It Is Missing On Cheap & Noisy Iranian Drones?

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Ukraine Is Shooting Down Russia's 'Best Warplanes'; But Video Shows It Is Missing On Cheap & Noisy Iranian Drones?

Russia-Ukraine War: Ukrainian MANPAD missed an incoming Iranian drone used by Russia that went on to hit its target in Kyiv successfully.
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Their radar and IR signatures are marginal.
 
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Not saying you are doing badly in the war, but...

Russia promises housing vouchers to Kherson residents willing to leave region
All current Kherson residents willing to leave their region for Russia will receive housing vouchers from the Russian government, said Marat Khusnullin, the government’s deputy chairman.

According to Khusnullin, vouchers can be redeemed for real estate in any Russian region, be it new construction or older housing. The vouchers will be issued based on the average nationwide housing price hovering around 83,400 rubles (or around $1,330) per square meter. Single individuals are promised 33 square meters (355 square feet) of living space; couples can have no less than 42 square meters (450 square feet); families of three or more people will get an extra 18 square meters (194 square feet) for each additional person.

“We’re also going to help people with transportation to the temporary housing, and will house them until the moment they choose their apartment,” Khasnullin wrote on Telegram.

The government is also offering “certain help” in compensation for property left behind by those leaving the Kherson region for Russia.
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Russia promises housing vouchers to Kherson residents willing to leave region — Meduza

All current Kherson residents willing to leave their region for Russia will receive housing vouchers from the Russian government, said Marat Khusnullin, the government’s deputy chairman.
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cannabineer

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printer said:
Not saying you are doing badly in the war, but...

Russia promises housing vouchers to Kherson residents willing to leave region
All current Kherson residents willing to leave their region for Russia will receive housing vouchers from the Russian government, said Marat Khusnullin, the government’s deputy chairman.

According to Khusnullin, vouchers can be redeemed for real estate in any Russian region, be it new construction or older housing. The vouchers will be issued based on the average nationwide housing price hovering around 83,400 rubles (or around $1,330) per square meter. Single individuals are promised 33 square meters (355 square feet) of living space; couples can have no less than 42 square meters (450 square feet); families of three or more people will get an extra 18 square meters (194 square feet) for each additional person.

“We’re also going to help people with transportation to the temporary housing, and will house them until the moment they choose their apartment,” Khasnullin wrote on Telegram.

The government is also offering “certain help” in compensation for property left behind by those leaving the Kherson region for Russia.
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Russia promises housing vouchers to Kherson residents willing to leave region — Meduza

All current Kherson residents willing to leave their region for Russia will receive housing vouchers from the Russian government, said Marat Khusnullin, the government’s deputy chairman.
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housing availability has been going up.
 
DIY-HP-LED

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What using drones tells retired general about Russia's fighting capability

442,664 views Oct 18, 2022 CNN military analyst and retired Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling explains how Russia's Iranian-made "kamikaze" drones work and what it means for their military strategy.
 
DIY-HP-LED

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Tighten up and expand sanctions, it's only by using international sources the Irainians can build drones, American chips, Austrian engines etc.


What Ukrainians learn from downed drones used by Russia

272,247 views Oct 18, 2022 Iran's government is emphatically denying it supplied Russia with deadly kamikaze drones that have been wreaking havoc on Ukraine's capital city, Kyiv. CNN's Chief International Correspondent Clarissa Ward gets an exclusive up-close look at a downed allegedly Iranian-made drone used by Russians.
 
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An Iranian drone carries a 36 kg explosive charge. More than enough to blow a hole into a substation transformer and light the oil coolant. With the transformer on fire you have a pretty good chance of damaging the enamel insulation on the wire. Sure you can have a directional antena. But which direction is the drone going to come from? There is no reason the drone has to do a straight line path to the target. So if you have a power station you need 360 degrees coverage. On attrition rates. The Iranian drones are $10k. So they send 100, that is $1M. Not cheap but not that much. If I remember correctly the Excalibur shell is $100k.
Ukraine Is Shooting Down Russia’s ‘Best Warplanes’; But Video Shows It Is Missing On Cheap & Noisy Iranian Drones?

eurasiantimes.com

Ukraine Is Shooting Down Russia's 'Best Warplanes'; But Video Shows It Is Missing On Cheap & Noisy Iranian Drones?

Russia-Ukraine War: Ukrainian MANPAD missed an incoming Iranian drone used by Russia that went on to hit its target in Kyiv successfully.
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By the time you hear them, they are real close. Small arms fire is tricky trying to hit something moving at that speed. I did hear of them shooting down several with fighters, but they lost two planes doing it. One from the drone blowing up too close to the plane.
 
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