Governor Abbott's Tent City

hanimmal

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I’m confused by this question, possibly missing the context but isn’t 3.5% homeless a gigantic amount anywhere?
Turned out that number (2400 I think it was) was for the entire county, which had 270,000 people. Or about 1% homeless. I don't know a lot about homeless statistics so don't know if it is or not.

But the way it is being sold (as a big Democratic city problem disregarding all the homeless that get moved out of smaller suburban areas and pushed to our cities) is where the propaganda spam comes in that makes it look like the world is ending and make it seem like we have never had it so bad and it is all the fault of 'Liberals'.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I think it's a lot. Here's a couple of examples of homeless encampments which have popped up and the past couple of year. The city ends up kicking them out after a while and a new camp appears somewhere else. This camp is in a park behind the County government building. I used to play in this park as a kid. Right now, it has fences around it, including the playground:



This one popped up behind Ross, right next to the highway. It's a weird plot of land that has unclear ownership:



These are just a couple of spots, there are many more which are more secluded.
Here in the desert we have some improvised communities. How many call them home is hard to say. I think that the ratios of homeless to total residents that get mentioned have a large component of guesswork. Pretty much the only way to get a number is to involve police, which causes many to relocate and make the number at best about the past. Every so often a Republican-heavy community gets a burr under its collective saddle about “solving” the local visible-homeless issue by hassling them. This is of course as effective as hammer-forging mercury.
Bottom line: a collection of anecdote leaves us with useless numbers on how many homeless are where.
 

schuylaar

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the freedom bridge incedant......

my question is how did those haitians come from Brazil all the way to the border?
That was my question when it happened. I used that photo in particular to compare and contrast on Abbott for that was purposely done to Biden.
 

schuylaar

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This is how tent city looks in Santa Cruz these days, but these are homeless people, not illegal immigrants. We're a sanctuary city.

Very nice..right church wrong pew..the above wants to be outside- rules you know.

I'm talking about those displaced rather than choice..I can talk to you all day about the above..and it's challenges. The other day I saw a Psych Team working early in the AM convincing some lady wrapped in a blanket I think they were able to Baker Act her..the ambulance was just about to arrive (with sirens so smart).

It's really hard to help felons and those who can't blow clean to get into the shelter. The Mennonite spot was letting people stay on the outside (as well as inside) and it started to look like the above so the city made them clean-up and there's nowhere to go. Now they're in our park across the street from where they were. The city approved because there's nowhere to go..but you have to blow clean..the group I spoke with yesterday not sure about any can do- one girl has meth face that's a no-go..theres a new guy there clean doesn't have that look of outside yet..gonna check his back story and see what I can do to help. I don't want him to fall into that life because once there..

There is a solution for the above that they're doing in LA.

Where do tiny houses for homeless go in Los Angeles?


EAGLE ROCK, LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- Los Angeles' newest tiny home village for the homeless has opened in Eagle Rock. A ribbon-cutting ceremony was held there Wednesday morning. "Less than a year ago, this was the site of one of the largest encampments in this neighborhood," L.A. Mayor Eric Garcetti said at the ceremony.Mar 27, 2022
LA's newest tiny home village for the homeless opens in Eagle Rock ...

So now take this to your city council meeting and suggest the above.
 
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PJ Diaz

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Here in the desert we have some improvised communities. How many call them home is hard to say. I think that the ratios of homeless to total residents that get mentioned have a large component of guesswork. Pretty much the only way to get a number is to involve police, which causes many to relocate and make the number at best about the past. Every so often a Republican-heavy community gets a burr under its collective saddle about “solving” the local visible-homeless issue by hassling them. This is of course as effective as hammer-forging mercury.
Bottom line: a collection of anecdote leaves us with useless numbers on how many homeless are where.
Even in our Democrat heavy county, the residents are only so tolerant, and still often have NIMBY attitudes, especially in the more affluent areas of town. I think the big concern of residents, isn't about the homeless situation itself, but more about the crime which often creeps into these encampments.



 

Drop That Sound

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Sounds more like the homeless situation creeps into the crime encampment. As if that guy in the above article pretends to be homeless, probably even setup first, and then the dope attracts all the "homeless" people to come setup flop tents of their own.

I been to some the local tent cities. 99.9 percent of them there use (not that I judge anyone for wanting to escape reality). Most are totally open about it, without even asking.
 

schuylaar

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I would love to see a good study on where these people are all originally from in these homeless camps. The state/county/local level governments of the places kicking people out and pushing them out to our large cities needs to get figured out.
It's typically eviction for one reason or another..no money and don't know where to get the help to mental illness.
 

schuylaar

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Sounds more like the homeless situation creeps into the crime encampment. As if that guy in the above article pretends to be homeless, probably even setup first, and then the dope attracts all the "homeless" people to come setup flop tents of their own.

I been to some the local tent cities. 99.9 percent of them there use (not that I judge anyone for wanting to escape reality). Most are totally open about it, without even asking.
Many that get checks will hotel it until it runs out which is why the transition homes of LA give the unhoused a space to be; door to lock, AC unit, bed and security for the compound. Showers, food and services are in a separate community building. You can't take someone from the street and just put them back into life depending on how long they've been out; it has to be a gradual process for success. Their whole existence is where will I sleep tonight and where the electrical outlets are.
 

schuylaar

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It sucks, we really need should be doing better. We really stagnated with this after building up the suburbs.
I'd like to see something for falling through the cracks..you're a good societal person, job, no habits..get sick and out of work..sure I had STD and LTD, but I wanted to go back to work; they saw me as liability the rest history if you read my posts.

I'd like to see something that requires US government entities that have a due date to the citizen be reprimanded with legal consequence of fines added to your final payout- four years was an abomination..heinous evil act to pull on sick citizens who paid on a 'whole life' type policy mandatory in case you become disabled.

I'd like to start a Class Action Suit against SSA, Andrew Saul and Donald Trump.

That's how good people end up homeless- Government INACTION falling all over themselves to deny citizens of their right already paid for..so the answer is Government is the problem.

Biden fires head of Social Security Administration, a Trump holdover who drew the ire of Democrats

"I was assigned by history's most sadistic, corrupt and criminal human being to keep disabled people from claiming benefits, legitimate or otherwise, and to damage this agency as much as I possibly could. I see no reason other than politics for wanting me to leave."

I don't understand why ALL of Tя☭mp human time-bombs haven't been fired- especially DeJoy. It may require bending the law a bit but Biden and his people should be able to figure it out.

 
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BudmanTX

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That was my question when it happened. I used that photo in particular to compare and contrast on Abbott for that was purposely done to Biden.
it was, most of what abbott is spewing even in the debate he blamed Biden, especially on the immigration front, should see his BS ads he's putting up now, most of the time i just smh and change the channel......Beto did have a good idea bout starting a work program for migrants, idk if that will ever pan out.....
 

xtsho

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The tent cities across the United States are filled with homeless people not due to the lack of housing but because they are hard core drug users and can't get or don't want a job. Here in Portland they keep going on about affordable housing being the cause. You could charge $200 a month for a two bedroom apartment and they still couldn't come up with the rent because they spend every dime on drugs. And even if they did pay the rent these pack rats would destroy the property and become a nuisance with all the garbage they collect and trash they leave laying around.

It's not a housing issue it's a drug addiction issue. Unfortunately here in Oregon they legalized possession of the drugs causing these addictions. There was some nonsense about treatment instead of jail and hundreds of millions of dollars have already been spent and the problem has only gotten worse.

They're spread out all over with rats infested camps set up in what used to be nice residential neighbourhoods. They steal, harass, expose themselves in public. Some of these camps are near schools and there have been children sexually assaulted by drugged out scumbags. They need to take a convoy of garbage trucks and clean that crap up followed by some water trucks to wash all the filth away.

I was just across the river in Vancouver WA and saw this. This has become a lifestyle. It's the way some people have chosen to live and they have no desire to change. Look at how they live. Now imagine that mentality inside an affordable residence. Guaranteed property damage and what might have once been a nice apartment would soon become a cockroach infested smelly mess of dog and cat feces, rotten food, and piles of trash dug out of garbage dumpsters. These people cannot be helped because they will always choose drugs.



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PJ Diaz

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The tent cities across the United States are filled with homeless people not due to the lack of housing but because they are hard core drug users and can't get or don't want a job. Here in Portland they keep going on about affordable housing being the cause. You could charge $200 a month for a two bedroom apartment and they still couldn't come up with the rent because they spend every dime on drugs. And even if they did pay the rent these pack rats would destroy the property and become a nuisance with all the garbage they collect and trash they leave laying around.

It's not a housing issue it's a drug addiction issue.
I think that's true for a segment of the homeless population, but not exclusively, and likely now even true for the majority. Consider the fact that it's virtually impossible to find a place to rent around here for under $1600, and that's just a one room rental. These are the least expensive rentals in the area right now, and that second listing for $1700 is just a master bedroom in a house:

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Drop That Sound

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I think that's true for a segment of the homeless population, but not exclusively, and likely now even true for the majority. Consider the fact that it's virtually impossible to find a place to rent around here for under $1600, and that's just a one room rental. These are the least expensive rentals in the area right now, and that second listing for $1700 is just a master bedroom in a house:

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Maybe its the fluoride in the water, making people docile enough to spend that much on rent, without fighting back.
 

schuylaar

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The immigrant bussing stunts are old news for red states. When I was doing mental health intakes at an inpatient psych ward, I lost count of how many of them received one way bus tickets direct from their home state to CA. This has been a common practice for at least the last 20 years, and both local county mental health services and local police did this regularly for their "frequent fliers."
I was bused to Colorado; the program is alive and shitty. The bus lines have a monopoly now and due to union a two day trip took four (my lucky number apparently). Drivers don't show and they have to find another. Got separated from my luggage early on..two buses to Denver, they put my luggage on the wrong bus. Slept in cold depot's. Someone comes around periodically to make you show tickets so you can be inside.

I wasn't anyone's 'frequent flyer'- I needed medical treatment that Florida wouldn't give me.
 

Drop That Sound

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Park a ghetto on the outside looking tiny house down at the public beach, where all the other "homeless" people in RV's are staying for free. Right next to the hill, where people pay 2-5k per month for ocean front view.

Don't do "blues" though, and save up 50k-200 in 2 years. Put a down payment on a new place, out in the country where there's no fluoride and puberty blockers in the water..
 

xtsho

Well-Known Member
I think that's true for a segment of the homeless population, but not exclusively, and likely now even true for the majority. Consider the fact that it's virtually impossible to find a place to rent around here for under $1600, and that's just a one room rental. These are the least expensive rentals in the area right now, and that second listing for $1700 is just a master bedroom in a house:

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I think it's true for the majority of the filthy tent encampments these people set up.

Housing does cost money but the majority of people working full time jobs are able to make it work. I'm not saying housing prices are not part of the problem but the majority is due to drug issues. Some like to say it's mental issues and that may be true. Those mental issues are mostly caused by drugs.

In the 80's a cocaine or heroin addict had a better chance of getting clean than today. These modern high octane synthetic drugs are literally killing the brain leaving the user in a permanent state of going nowhere.

People that will lose a limb and continue to use are beyond help because today's synthetic drugs have destroyed their mental capabilities to make rational decisions.

 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
The tent cities across the United States are filled with homeless people not due to the lack of housing but because they are hard core drug users and can't get or don't want a job. Here in Portland they keep going on about affordable housing being the cause. You could charge $200 a month for a two bedroom apartment and they still couldn't come up with the rent because they spend every dime on drugs. And even if they did pay the rent these pack rats would destroy the property and become a nuisance with all the garbage they collect and trash they leave laying around.

It's not a housing issue it's a drug addiction issue. Unfortunately here in Oregon they legalized possession of the drugs causing these addictions. There was some nonsense about treatment instead of jail and hundreds of millions of dollars have already been spent and the problem has only gotten worse.

They're spread out all over with rats infested camps set up in what used to be nice residential neighbourhoods. They steal, harass, expose themselves in public. Some of these camps are near schools and there have been children sexually assaulted by drugged out scumbags. They need to take a convoy of garbage trucks and clean that crap up followed by some water trucks to wash all the filth away.

I was just across the river in Vancouver WA and saw this. This has become a lifestyle. It's the way some people have chosen to live and they have no desire to change. Look at how they live. Now imagine that mentality inside an affordable residence. Guaranteed property damage and what might have once been a nice apartment would soon become a cockroach infested smelly mess of dog and cat feces, rotten food, and piles of trash dug out of garbage dumpsters. These people cannot be helped because they will always choose drugs.



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