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DIY-HP-LED

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ah stfu u drunk

When Putin's head rolls, his won't be far behind as will others close to Putin, unless they get rid of him, get out of Ukraine and blame him for the whole fiasco, while trying to retain power with the dummy parliament. Elections looming and there is a legal order of succession, the regular military is also very pissed off at the whole situation and could stage a coup for a democratic reset or an autocratic grab for power on their own. About the only way out is to do in Putin and blame him while they bury him. Pull out of all Ukraine then try and pick up the pieces of a shattered country and military while attempting to get out from under sanctions and get some of their money back, both state and private. If you thought Trump left Biden problems, wait until you see what is in store for a Russian government after Vlad dies or is locked up.
 
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BudmanTX

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When Putin's head rolls, his won't be far behind as will others close to Putin, unless they get rid of him, get out of Ukraine and blame him for the whole fiasco on him while trying to retain power with the dummy parliament. Elections looming and there is a legal order of succession, the regular military is also very pissed off at the whole situation and could stage a coup for a democratic reset or an autocratic grab for power on their own. About the only way out is to do in Putin and blame him while they bury him. Pull out of all Ukraine then try and pick up the pieces of a shattered country and military while attempting to get out from under sanctions and get some of their money back, both state and private. If you though Trump left Biden problems, wait until you see what is in store for a Russian government after Vlad dies or is locked up.
i'd like to see the whole state of duma roll for all of this
 

printer

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New $400M military aid package to Ukraine includes tanks
The Pentagon announced a $400 million military aid package for Ukraine that would deliver capabilities in the coming years, including money for refurbished tanks and tactical drones.

The package, being resourced through the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative, which is unlike presidential “drawdown” authority that rapidly transfers weapons from U.S. stocks. The USAI is used to contract directly with defense contractors.
The package will include:

• 45 refurbished T-72B Tanks with advanced optics, communications, and armor packages
• 1,100 Phoenix Ghost Tactical Unmanned Aerial Systems
• 40 Armored Riverine Boats
• funding to refurbish 250 M1117 Armored Security Vehicles
• tactical secure communications systems and surveillance systems
• funding for training, maintenance, and sustainment

“The overhauled T-72B tanks included in this package are part of a trilateral, coordinated effort with the Netherlands and Czech Republic,” the Pentagon said. “Alongside the United States, the Netherlands will provide 45 additional T-72B Tanks with the support of the Czech Ministry of Defense and in cooperation with Czech industry.”

The package also includes funding to refurbish HAWK air defense missiles for inclusion in future presidential drawdown packages.
“With Russia’s unrelenting and brutal air attacks on Ukrainian civilian critical infrastructure, additional air defense capabilities are critical,” the Pentagon said. “Funding to refurbish HAWK missiles will complement Spain’s recent commitment of HAWK launchers to help Ukraine meet this threat.”
In total, the United States has now committed more than $18.9 billion in security assistance to Ukraine since the beginning of the Biden Administration, with more than $18.2 billion coming since the beginning of Russia’s ongoing invasion.

“This USAI package underscores the continued U.S. commitment to supporting Ukraine by meeting their most urgent needs, while also building the capacity of Ukraine’s Armed Forces to defend its sovereignty over the long term,” the Pentagon said.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Could always send Trump to negotiate.
Biden could send him to Moscow as America's envoy, and you know he'd never return to face indictment. Maybe he could use his "personal" relationship and negotiating skills and meet Vlad in Moscow, where he would no doubt stay and go down with Vlad, hand in hand through the gates of Hell! :lol:
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Train a champion ball eater! This means LUNCHTIME! Takes on all challengers and would make great YouTube videos! It would put an end to the "sport" pretty quickly. What would be a good name for the little bag nibbler...
Testicules (to rhyme with Hercules)
ScrotYum
the Progenitor
Wízel Castro

so many possibilities
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
It turns out Putin is just as dumb as Trump and a bigger screw up, but he had total state power. Donald did not, otherwise ya would have been nuking hurricanes and killing the solid red south (and much of his base) with radioactive rain. :lol:
I pondered the whole weather-nuking shenanigan once in that marvelous window of lateral clarity that can come on the threshold of a shallow nap.

I decided that he’d send the hot weather over Honduras andor Nicaragua.
 

doublejj

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Oh look we're on the brink of nuclear war all around the world. This unwillingness to negotiate seems to be really working out well (not).

so if someone broke into your house and moved into your kitchen would you negotiate with them to keep your kitchen?...(not)
 

printer

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Putin: Poland wants to swallow Ukraine
Poland still wants to take over the territories of Ukraine, which it once lost. This was stated by Russian President Vladimir Putin.

“The idea of absorbing Ukraine in Poland has not gone away,” Putin said during a speech broadcast by the Rossiya 24 TV channel. He believes that Russia could be the only guarantor of the integrity of Ukraine.

According to the head of state, Russia voluntarily gave Ukraine its territories for the sake of unity, but without asking the opinion of the population. “And the territories of Poland, Romania and Hungary were forcibly taken away as a result of the war,” the Russian leader concluded.

Production of large-caliber projectiles launched in Ukraine
The Ukroboronprom enterprise has launched the production of large-caliber shells. This was announced by the head of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine Oleksiy Reznikov during a briefing in the Odessa branch of the media center.

“Today, we have launched the production of the 152nd and 122nd shells and the 120th mine by the forces of Ukroboronprom and the entrepreneurs who are part of this structure,” RIA Novosti reports with reference to Reznikov. The head of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine noted that an increase in production is expected.

Earlier, URA.RU wrote that the United States would send Soviet tanks to Ukraine. The head of the Ukrainian Defense Ministry hopes for Washington's help in the supply of military equipment from Europe.

Putin: The West skillfully raised the fuse to the collapse of Russia
The West tried to destroy Russia by applying to it the experience of interfering in the internal affairs of Ukraine after the collapse of the USSR. This was stated by Russian President Vladimir Putin.

“The West very skillfully raised the wick to the disintegration of our country. For decades after the collapse of the USSR, Ukraine went through the path of direct overt interference by Western countries in its internal affairs. Well, in fact, they tried to do the same in Russia, ”Putin said during a broadcast on the Rossiya 24 TV channel.

According to the president, the West managed to instill pseudo-values into the minds of Ukrainians, which led to the fact that now anti-Russia has been created on this territory. “Russia’s clash with this neo-Nazi regime that emerged on the territory of Ukraine was inevitable,” Putin said. In addition, he said that if the Russian Federation had not taken any action in February, the outcome would have been the same, but only from the worst positions for Russia.

Earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that Western countries will not wait for the collapse of the Russian Federation . For this, among other things, a special operation was launched in Ukraine.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
Putin: Poland wants to swallow Ukraine
Poland still wants to take over the territories of Ukraine, which it once lost. This was stated by Russian President Vladimir Putin.

“The idea of absorbing Ukraine in Poland has not gone away,” Putin said during a speech broadcast by the Rossiya 24 TV channel. He believes that Russia could be the only guarantor of the integrity of Ukraine.

According to the head of state, Russia voluntarily gave Ukraine its territories for the sake of unity, but without asking the opinion of the population. “And the territories of Poland, Romania and Hungary were forcibly taken away as a result of the war,” the Russian leader concluded.

Production of large-caliber projectiles launched in Ukraine
The Ukroboronprom enterprise has launched the production of large-caliber shells. This was announced by the head of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine Oleksiy Reznikov during a briefing in the Odessa branch of the media center.

“Today, we have launched the production of the 152nd and 122nd shells and the 120th mine by the forces of Ukroboronprom and the entrepreneurs who are part of this structure,” RIA Novosti reports with reference to Reznikov. The head of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine noted that an increase in production is expected.

Earlier, URA.RU wrote that the United States would send Soviet tanks to Ukraine. The head of the Ukrainian Defense Ministry hopes for Washington's help in the supply of military equipment from Europe.

Putin: The West skillfully raised the fuse to the collapse of Russia
The West tried to destroy Russia by applying to it the experience of interfering in the internal affairs of Ukraine after the collapse of the USSR. This was stated by Russian President Vladimir Putin.

“The West very skillfully raised the wick to the disintegration of our country. For decades after the collapse of the USSR, Ukraine went through the path of direct overt interference by Western countries in its internal affairs. Well, in fact, they tried to do the same in Russia, ”Putin said during a broadcast on the Rossiya 24 TV channel.

According to the president, the West managed to instill pseudo-values into the minds of Ukrainians, which led to the fact that now anti-Russia has been created on this territory. “Russia’s clash with this neo-Nazi regime that emerged on the territory of Ukraine was inevitable,” Putin said. In addition, he said that if the Russian Federation had not taken any action in February, the outcome would have been the same, but only from the worst positions for Russia.

Earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that Western countries will not wait for the collapse of the Russian Federation . For this, among other things, a special operation was launched in Ukraine.
When Poland and Ukraine are in the EU borders won't matter as much, just like the rest of the EU, people like the freedom. Poland is doubling its army and buying 500 HIMARS, but not to invade Ukraine with, those two are tight as ticks and Poland has a bone to pick with Russia of its own. Having Belarus and Ukraine as a Russian buffer would be nice too and move any battlefields east and on Russia's doorstep. Ukraine winning will mean rail access for them from the Baltic to the Black Sea through Ukraine. Turkey gets its canal and the European traffic to support it, since it would be a great container ship and tanker short cut to the heart of Europe. Energy too if Ukraine develops it NG and petroleum, with Russia gone from the markets and Ukraine looking more feasible Europe will want a diversity of energy sources.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I think Vlad's blunder and ass kicking in Ukraine have made many of the world's autocrats nervous, from Iran and North Korea to China and even the Saudis too. Russia was a key autocratic ally and counter to the forces of liberal democracy which appear to be on the ascendency lately. Maybe that's why there is so much trouble in so many places as conservative and autocratic forces fueled by ethnonationalism line up against the forces of human rights and multiculturalism. Liberal means freedom and that includes cultural, religious and political freedom. Russia's defeat has made many reconsider their military model and organization, not to mention their weapons systems!

Now if America can just hang on to its liberal democracy, we might be making some progress into the future as a planet. We will know the chances of that in a few days, will it be one step forward, or two steps back?
 
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