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DIY-HP-LED

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Very true,and it's astonishing that the MILLION + Covid deaths in the US seem forgotten already,another eg. of the American attention span,think about it ONE MILLION dead,that's almost double America's WW2,2 theaters of war,casualties sustained in 4 yrs.
The duty of an American president is to save American lives and there ain't much Joe wouldn't have done to accomplish that and when it looked like vaccines would do that with spectacular results, he did it and masks until everybody who wanted a shot got one. A normal US president would move heaven and earth to save a million American lives. Not all deaths can be laid at Trump's feet, but studies have shown that a couple of hundred thousand or more can, that still more than the total death toll in Ukraine, Russians included.
 
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Roger A. Shrubber

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They're what, 150 million strong?
You can't go against them. We don't have the military might. oh shit...
https://ballotpedia.org/Partisan_affiliations_of_registered_voters

36 million republicans registered...of that, maybe 40% are magats, so more like 15-20 million...spread over all 50 states, even though most are in about a dozen states.
we can and will go against them, stomp them flat, and leave them where they lie as the rest of the nation moves forward, past their bullshit.
 

CCGNZ

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The duty of an American president is to save American lives and their ain't much Joe wouldn't have done to accomplish that and when it looked like vaccines would do that with spectacular results, he did it and masks until everybody who wanted a shot got one. A normal US president would move heaven and earth to save a million American lives. Not all deaths can be laid at Trump's feet, but studies have shown that a couple of hundred thousand or more can, that still more than the total death toll in Ukraine, Russians included.
The orange guy was more consumed w/the upcoming election than worrying about dying Americans which wasn't surprising considering he is a self grandising,narcisstic,DBAG,wanna trade NTS LOL.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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The fact that after all this time the IRS hadn't even finished 1 complete audit of 6 possible yrs of returns stinks to high heaven and looks like another scandal in the making, only one IRS agent assigned to this huge task?, audits only began after House Ways and Means requested access to them?, what kind of pressure,payoff, or threats did Mr. Orange or his henchmen exert for not ONE complete audit to have been conducted in 6 years?
i don't know, lets watch as the nation finds out...
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Roger A. Shrubber

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Will the magats shout at him him in congress? Will MTG scream Nazi! Or, where's the money! Basically scream everything you see in Russian bot posts on Tweeter that are retweeted through out the magaverse. They are even competing with the Russians for the best false narrative and they borrow from each other shamelessly. It is hard to know who is a Russian troll or a magat from the content of their posts, the lies all blend into one big streaming pile of bullshit. It's ready to be eaten up by those who need to believe, the idiots, assholes and just plain evil.

i actually hope one of them shows their ass, it will give Zelensky an opportunity to shut them the fuck down in person. he's a more intelligent, literate, educated, compassionate person than all of the freedumb carcass combined, and it will show.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Very true,and it's astonishing that the MILLION + Covid deaths in the US seem forgotten already,another eg. of the American attention span,think about it ONE MILLION dead,that's almost double America's WW2,2 theaters of war,casualties sustained in 4 yrs.
I think there are two other factors here to consider.
One is “how many extra deaths were there compared to the hypothetical development of the pandemic in US had the CDC not been impeded in their job etc.?” It’ll be a smaller number. Considering what a bastard this virus is still being, maybe a lot smaller.

The other is that Covid hasn’t left us with amputees and other cripples to remind us of the war. As a youngster visiting Europe I was always impressed by the seat up by the team’s door, reserved in big letters for war wounded and sometimes occupied by old folk missing limbs.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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https://ballotpedia.org/Partisan_affiliations_of_registered_voters

36 million republicans registered...of that, maybe 40% are magats, so more like 15-20 million...spread over all 50 states, even though most are in about a dozen states.
we can and will go against them, stomp them flat, and leave them where they lie as the rest of the nation moves forward, past their bullshit.
It just takes another win by the democrats to capture the congress and presidency in order to make dramatic sudden changes and to level the political playing field, I've mentioned some of them like HR-1. DC and Puerto Rico could become states too and when coupled with generational and demographic change, could allow rapid change on several fronts. Donald destroyed the GOP or will before he's done! The democrats are gonna take advantage of this and finish them or their magat wing off with anti domestic terrorism laws and a watch list, federal gun laws, election law changes and FCC laws and regulations. Increasingly global social media companies are gonna face a host of international regulations and they might start in America, but they all want to go international.

More actual democratic majority rule and less minority rule, the better for America, the filibuster will be gone too. The senate already over represents a minority of the country and is not a true democratic institution. It's just a crude copy of the British house of Lords as it existed the 18th century, originally "gentlemen" (rich WASP) were appointed by the states, not elected.
 

doughper

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lol who is 150 million strong?
NomineeJoe BidenDonald Trump
PartyDemocraticRepublican
Home stateDelawareFlorida[c]
Running mateKamala HarrisMike Pence
Electoral vote306232
States carried25 + DC + NE-0225 + ME-02
Popular vote81,283,501[1]74,223,975[1]
Percentage51.3%46.8%
Half the eligible voters voted, so if 74 million voted the orange demon,
there were another 74 million who would have but didn't vote for him.

With that many voters who like creeps like him, how can we expect any kind of
return to democracy. The USA has been trending toward creeps and criminals
as office holders since Reagan (ie, Newt Gingrich, et al). And their movement
i do not see any signs of slowing, especially in this so-called "criminal referrals"
process by the J6 committee. These districts all over the midwest and south
are filled with crazed, gun nut right wing klansmen, fueled by hatred, greed and
fear. All they seek is some idiot with some crazy conspiracy theory on which they can
hang their (MAGA) hat. The confidence I see here is heartening, but I don't think is
reality. It's virtual reality, the right's, that is controlling the USA, or that demon
would never have gotten elected or even ran. Birther movement, for God's sake!
 
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Roger A. Shrubber

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NomineeJoe BidenDonald Trump
PartyDemocraticRepublican
Home stateDelawareFlorida[c]
Running mateKamala HarrisMike Pence
Electoral vote306232
States carried25 + DC + NE-0225 + ME-02
Popular vote81,283,501[1]74,223,975[1]
Percentage51.3%46.8%
Half the eligible voters voted, so if 74 million voted the orange demon, there were another 74 million who would have but didn't vote for him.
there is a huge difference between voting for him and being willing to fight in a civil war for him...if there are 10 million in the whole country that would fight and die for trump, i would be very surprised...i'd say maybe 5 million are hardcore idiots, stupid enough to actually face off with national guard units...which will mow them down, thereby improving the entire country's genetic pool, AND IQ scores, simultaneously...
a "civil" was against trump supporters would be a refreshing enema for the country...so much bullshit down the drain...
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
NomineeJoe BidenDonald Trump
PartyDemocraticRepublican
Home stateDelawareFlorida[c]
Running mateKamala HarrisMike Pence
Electoral vote306232
States carried25 + DC + NE-0225 + ME-02
Popular vote81,283,501[1]74,223,975[1]
Percentage51.3%46.8%
Half the eligible voters voted, so if 74 million voted the orange demon,

there were another 74 million who would have but didn't vote for him.

With that many voters who like creeps like him, how can we expect any kind of
return to democracy. The USA has been trending toward creeps and criminals
as office holders since Reagan (ie, Newt Gingrich, et al). And their movement
i do not see any signs of slowing, especially in this so-called "criminal referrals"
process by the J6 committee. These districts all over the midwest and south
are filled with crazed, gun nut right wing klansmen, fueled by hatred, greed and
fear. All they seek is some idiot with some crazy conspiracy theory on which they can
hang their (MAGA) hat. The confidence I see here is heartening, but I don't think is
reality. It's virtual reality, the right's, that is controlling the USA, or that demon
would never have gotten elected or even ran. Birther movement, for God's sake!
I’d stick with a portion (figured by a stated algorithm) of the number who voted. Applying the correction factors you did is imo not warranted.
 

doughper

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I just know so many intelligent, smart (much smarter than I ever hoped to be) people who stand
by that bastard and seem (altho, i can't believe they really believe it) to believe that the election
was rigged, just like the bastard says it was. And then there are the flat earthers...:sigh: I gotta say
that i live in a highly right wing district. Dems don't even get on the ballot here. Our district went
like 73% for trump. I am alone here, very alone. And whenever I open my yap, i immediately am
afraid, very afraid. :(
 

BudmanTX

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I just know so many intelligent, smart (much smarter than I ever hoped to be) people who stand
by that bastard and seem (altho, i can't believe they really believe it) to believe that the election
was rigged, just like the bastard says it was. And then there are the flat earthers...:sigh: I gotta say
that i live in a highly right wing district. Dems don't even get on the ballot here. Our district went
like 73% for trump. I am alone here, very alone. And whenever I open my yap, i immediately am
afraid, very afraid. :(
eh don't be, try working with repugs....you get plenty of BS all the time, the people i work with love to put the blame on biden, then i correct them...it's like an atomic bomb going off....then they call me a demo......and then i have to explain to them this is the very reason why i don't vote cause of idiots like u.....just keep you chin up....and walk the good path....
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I just know so many intelligent, smart (much smarter than I ever hoped to be) people who stand
by that bastard and seem (altho, i can't believe they really believe it) to believe that the election
was rigged, just like the bastard says it was. And then there are the flat earthers...:sigh: I gotta say
that i live in a highly right wing district. Dems don't even get on the ballot here. Our district went
like 73% for trump. I am alone here, very alone. And whenever I open my yap, i immediately am
afraid, very afraid. :(
Change the topic to J6 and say a patriot would never support such bullshit, that will end it.
 

doughper

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Ty, I try to do that, and have done it all my life here :sigh:.

Yeah, you're the tx guy, if i remember. Yup, it's as right wing in my
district as it is anywhere in USA. 'Bama, OK, KS, FL, u name it, this
place votes repub, always. But being on the coast, it has a large
coastal city and the state is usually democrat. It's hilarious. I've
witnessed repug just stomping mad at our governor. Jeeze, and
the state is as well run as any in the union too. Always has been. :)
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
I just know so many intelligent, smart (much smarter than I ever hoped to be) people who stand
by that bastard and seem (altho, i can't believe they really believe it) to believe that the election
was rigged, just like the bastard says it was. And then there are the flat earthers...:sigh: I gotta say
that i live in a highly right wing district. Dems don't even get on the ballot here. Our district went
like 73% for trump. I am alone here, very alone. And whenever I open my yap, i immediately am
afraid, very afraid. :(
Read the news and memorize some useful facts and quotes, there is plenty to make these fuckers sweat and squirm over, including treason to the constitution and USA being top of the list.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
They immediately turn that right around back on you. Esp. the smart ones, ie., "you're the
traitor, not me!" It is so unreal!
Facts win in the end and they will end Trump and a lot of Magats in court. Facts are stubborn things and stick around along with the evidence, bullshit travels fast, but has no staying power. Ask them about the 1000 who are already in jail.
 

BudmanTX

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Ty, I try to do that, and have done it all my life here :sigh:.

Yeah, you're the tx guy, if i remember. Yup, it's as right wing in my
district as it is anywhere in USA. 'Bama, OK, KS, FL, u name it, this
place votes repub, always. But being on the coast, it has a large
coastal city and the state is usually democrat. It's hilarious. I've
witnessed repug just stomping mad at our governor. Jeeze, and
the state is as well run as any in the union too. Always has been. :)
yeah i'm that guy, i guess...lol.....oh and you haven't seen right wing nut job till you listen to the bullshit brigade over seas.......these overseas people have also backed the repugs too aka magats, aka orange avenger, aka freedum cacus too.....sooo...
 

Roger A. Shrubber

Well-Known Member
I just know so many intelligent, smart (much smarter than I ever hoped to be) people who stand
by that bastard and seem (altho, i can't believe they really believe it) to believe that the election
was rigged, just like the bastard says it was. And then there are the flat earthers...:sigh: I gotta say
that i live in a highly right wing district. Dems don't even get on the ballot here. Our district went
like 73% for trump. I am alone here, very alone. And whenever I open my yap, i immediately am
afraid, very afraid. :(
intelligence can be and usually is conditional. everyone has areas and issues that they're blind to, or biased towards. find the right issue, and you can make the most intelligent person put on the red hat of shame. many "intelligent" people are still bigots, racist, sexists...and trump is the god of bigots.
they'll repeat whatever they're told, even though they KNOW it's a lie, because it results in them being able to indulge their personal prejudices.
ted cruz isn't fucking stupid...he's a huge dickbag asshole who misinterprets rules and laws for his own benefit...but that makes him as asshole, not stupid. desantis isn't stupid. again, dickbag, douchebag, racist, bigot....but not stupid.
trump isn't stupid. he's ignorant, uninformed, biased...but not stupid. he ALMOST succeeded in stealing an entire country and installing himself as dictator for life...stupid people don't almost succeed in doing that.
intelligence is one metric to judge someone by...there are others. compassion, empathy, philanthropy, their past actions and statements.
i'm betting that all those "intelligent" people you mentioned are sorely lacking in those other metrics.
 
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