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injinji

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The crown was represented by the governor, but the legislatures often had other ideas. At the time of the Puritans England was at civil war with Cromwell leading the dissenters (parliamentarians) until the restoration, then they turfed another King after cutting his father's head off and driving him off to France, then brought William of Orange in with his wife Mary in 1666. With the ascendency of the monarchy came the "high church" and the rest of the protestants were second class citizens! They ended up founding the industrial revolution since they were banned from the universities.

Years ago I wrote a series of stories set in 1717-1719, with one of the tangential character being Edward Theach. He was still fighting Queen Anne's war at the time. (What I'm saying is that I have tons of useless information about everything in that period. Now I'm doing research on Judea and
Rome from middle 1st century bce to the end of 1st century ce. So I'm accumulating tons of useless information about those folks too)
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Years ago I wrote a series of stories set in 1717-1719, with one of the tangential character being Edward Theach. He was still fighting Queen Anne's war at the time. (What I'm saying is that I have tons of useless information about everything in that period. Now I'm doing research on Judea and
Rome from middle 1st century bce to the end of 1st century ce. So I'm accumulating tons of useless information about those folks too)
Welcome to the club, to write is to be full of useless information! :lol:
Tolkien who wrote LOTR was full of useless information that would only interest a nerd.
 

BudmanTX

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Years ago I wrote a series of stories set in 1717-1719, with one of the tangential character being Edward Theach. He was still fighting Queen Anne's war at the time. (What I'm saying is that I have tons of useless information about everything in that period. Now I'm doing research on Judea and
Rome from middle 1st century bce to the end of 1st century ce. So I'm accumulating tons of useless information about those folks too)
ur doing what??? research on who?
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Each colony had it's own state religion. C of E was just one of many.
To me, this reads that there were thirteen distinct religions of record for the thirteen charter states. However, when I perused your list, I count only two religions, Anglican and Congregational.

So the hard form of your statement fails: some states shared a religion.
Interestingly, the soft form fails also. A plurality of states listed their established religion as “None”.
 

injinji

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ur doing what??? research on who?
Josephus, his wives, mother and father, brothers, sisters, etc, etc.

My main outline is Herod Agrippa II and him sitting in Rome sometimes after 75ce. Agrippa stepped down instead of fighting the Romans, so he was good to go after the revolt. Joses (as he was called) was one of the main generals, but when his army was beat, he went over to the Roman side and was taken as a slave. But he got in the good graces of Vespasian so when he came to power, he was freed.

Agrippa helped with his histories, which in the first one, Joses got lots of shit wrong. I think most of it was to hide his family's involvement in the Jesus movement. My story will be them sitting around talking about what really happened.
 

injinji

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To me, this reads that there were thirteen distinct religions of record for the thirteen charter states. However, when I perused your list, I count only two religions, Anglican and Congregational.

So the hard form of your statement fails: some states shared a religion.
Interestingly, the soft form fails also. A plurality of states listed their established religion as “None”.
Yes, I was overly broad. The Quakers (in PA and NC) and the Catholics (in MD) were pretty well suppressed. Lots of infighting, as well as a little of the real world type went on.
 

BudmanTX

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Josephus, his wives, mother and father, brothers, sisters, etc, etc.

My main outline is Herod Agrippa II and him sitting in Rome sometimes after 75ce. Agrippa stepped down instead of fighting the Romans, so he was good to go after the revolt. Joses (as he was called) was one of the main generals, but when his army was beat, he went over to the Roman side and was taken as a slave. But he got in the good graces of Vespasian so when he came to power, he was freed.

Agrippa helped with his histories, which in the first one, Joses got lots of shit wrong. I think most of it was to hide his family's involvement in the Jesus movement. My story will be them sitting around talking about what really happened.
you talking about Flavis?? the historian?
 

injinji

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I thought I remembered that Maryland was supposed to be a Catholic refuge.
Lots of the colonies were payback for old debts. Lord Calvert getting Maryland was one such example. It was Catholic to start with but there was a little war. I would have to check dates and what not, but LC never came over. His son ran it after the dad died. It was easier to pretend not to be catholic, so that is what he did.
 

BudmanTX

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Yes. Folks think he was the baby brother of Jesus, the Joses you see in the gospels.
actually according to some that was Joseph Jr, and according to some reading Jesus actually had 4 to 6 brothers and at least 2 sisters.....the most noteable bout the brother was James, Jr, Judas(yes the very same) and Jude, the sisters were never named.....
 

injinji

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actually according to some that was Joseph Jr, and according to some reading Jesus actually had 4 to 6 brothers and at least 2 sisters.....the most noteable bout the brother was James, Jr, Judas(yes the very same) and Jude, the sisters were never named.....
There was a Josef who was treasurer for Herod the Great. He was married to the daughter of the Roman Council who tried to keep them out of the civil war after Augustus was killed. But he was killed himself. Anyway, there was three or four kids from that marriage, with James being the youngest. Herod's 2nd wife was Marriam the 1st, and he had her killed in 29bc. But there is a lot of writings that say she faked her death and had a child by Josef. (she had had four kids by Herod before that, so about the virgin birth. . . . . .) Later on Josef married Marriam the 2nd, whom Herod had divorced right before he died. The other brothers and sisters, including Joses, were from this marriage.

Some of the sisters were named in other texts, not the gospels.
 

printer

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‘Putin’s Chef’ Admits His Mercenaries Hit Dead End in Ukrainian Stronghold
Russia’s shadow army boss has tried to explain away his mercenary group’s failure to take the Ukrainian stronghold of Bakhmut by claiming Ukraine has “500 lines of defense” there.

Yevgeny Prigozhin made the claim in an interview with RIA Novosti published Tuesday, telling the news agency that the Wagner Group can’t seem to break through Ukrainian defenses around the city.

Ukraine’s military has fended off a Russian takeover there during months of brutal battles against the notorious mercenaries. In the face of relentless Russian attacks, the city has gained huge symbolic significance.

While pro-Kremlin pundits and Prigozhin himself have for weeks taunted Ukrainians with threats that Bakhmut will soon fall to Russia, the Wagner boss now appears to be acknowledging what Western experts and British intelligence have already predicted: Russia is unlikely to achieve any major wins in the area any time soon.

“It’s a fortress in every home,” Prigozhin said in video published by RIA Novosti. “The guys lock horns for every home, sometimes not just for one day. Sometimes for weeks over one home. They take one home, they take a second, a third,” Prigozhin said.

But they still can’t break through defenses.

“To say [there are] 500 [lines of defense] would probably not be a mistake. Every 10 meters there is a line of defense,” Prigozhin said while meeting with his mercenaries.

One of the men under his command can be heard complaining in the footage that they don’t have enough equipment or weapons to push further into Bakhmut.

The Wagner boss’ admission comes after Western intelligence noted that the manpower behind Russian attacks in the area had been thinning out. The British Ministry of Defense noted in its latest assessment on Tuesday that while Russia has “increased the frequency” of attacks around Bakhmut, “many of these operations were poorly supported.”

A Ukrainian soldier near Bakhmut also says it seems the Russian side is “running out” of prison inmates to send to the frontline.

In an interview with Radio New Times, Yevgeny Oropai said Russian troops seem to be “out of breath” after unsuccessfully attempting to storm Ukrainian positions around the New Year holiday, leaving Wagner with “heavy losses.”

But they’re also learning from their own mistakes and not “mindlessly” carrying out so many offensives anymore, he said.

Both sides have suffered staggering losses in and around the city, leading even some pro-Kremlin figures to question whether Russia’s offensive there was worth the “senseless meat grinder” it had created for them.

But the city appeared to take on heightened significance for Moscow after a series of crushing losses elsewhere saw Russians retreat from territories Putin had proudly declared to be part of Russia. Bakhmut, seen in some ways as Russia’s “last stand” after Ukraine took back Kharkiv and Kherson, was also part of the Donbas region Putin had dubbed a priority after the Kremlin’s failure to take Kyiv.

Prigozhin, who for months has boasted that his guys are more ruthless and able to do what ordinary Russians troops cannot, released a series of attention-seeking propaganda videos said to be from Bakhmut in late December, in which he ordered his mercenaries to fire off weapons and taunted Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky with invitations to meet on the front line.

“Maybe by the evening we’ll be able to meet,” he said. “I’m sitting, waiting for you near Bakhmut.”

Days later, however, Russian airborne troops were sent to the area to prop up Wagner’s operations—a move widely seen as evidence that all was not going according to plan for Russia’s tough-talking shadow army boss.
 
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