Gun control is coming

Hotrod2

Hotrod2

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DIY-HP-LED said:
Gun regulation and even banning them works fine everywhere else and many places that do are considered much freer than America according to international ratings.
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Very hard to legally own a gun in Mexico. They are well regulated. Doesn't work very well there! Gun regulation seems to work very well in China and North Korea as well. The government has no fear of ever being overthrown by the citizens.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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Hotrod2 said:
Very hard to legally own a gun in Mexico. They are well regulated. Doesn't work very well there! Gun regulation seems to work very well in China and North Korea as well. The government has no fear of ever being overthrown by the citizens.
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re·duc·ti·o ad ab·sur·dum
/rəˌdəkSHēō ad əbˈsərdəm,rəˈdəktēō ad əbˈsərdəm/
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noun: reductio ad absurdum

a method of proving the falsity of a premise by showing that its logical consequence is absurd or contradictory.
"the argument is a reductio ad absurdum of utilitarianism"
 
CANON_Grow

CANON_Grow

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Fangthane said:
One need really look no further than the whole 1st Amendment audit scene on Youtube to see just how sickeningly incompetent and aggressively stupid our cops tend to be. Something as simple and innocuous as walking around with a camera is more than enough to bring out the inner-fascist in most cops. Simply not supplying ID in a situation where one's activity is unambiguously protected by the 1st Amendment - where they have nothing remotely resembling Reasonable Suspicion - has gotten many people arrested. Most LEO swear an oath to defend and uphold the Constitution, yet the fucktards clearly know nothing about it - which is sad, since it plays a major role in outlining their rules of engagement. I think anyone suggesting that this country doesn't have SERIOUS issues with it's law enforcers is laughably misinformed. I wonder how many of the kinds of people who are inclined to say, "they shouldn't have resisted," even know whether or not what was supposedly being 'resisted' was even a lawful order. Contrary to popular belief, any order issued by a cop isn't inherently lawful.
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Not sure that is a really fair comparison, there are countless 1st Amendment audit video's where the auditor is doing everything they can to get a specific reaction from LEO's and typically only publish the ones where they succeeded. There a bad and evil officers for sure, and the culture certainly needs to change, but to not acknowledge that the majority are good people trying their best in a very difficult position is absurd. With the amount of guns out there that they have to worry about, has to be insanely stressful. What POC have been subjected to is for a different thread, no doubt they have been fucked over repeatedly, not just by LEO's.

Everyone has a responsibility to own their actions and attitude, police officers included. A little bit of respect towards anyone usually goes a long way towards civil discourse. 1st Amendment auditor's seem to forget this frequently.

I'm gonna go make a sandwich now
 
Fangthane

Fangthane

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Popular, "civil" speech doesn't really need protecting nearly as much as our freedom to express our grievances against agents of our government - in no uncertain terms. Whether or not cops decide to respect our rights is not, and should not be, contingent upon us being nice to them, or stroking their egos by saying, "yes, sir" and submitting to whatever arbitrary orders they decide to issue. Short of obvious, credible threats or a boneheaded admission of guilt, no words anyone says should really play even the slightest role in determining whether a cop gets to slap cuffs on them if their actions aren't breaking any laws. Surely, the concept of a fundamental right to petition the gov't for redress of grievances would inherently include being secure from official retaliation: like the bogus 'contempt of cop' arrests that so often happen.

I have no problem with 'baiting' cops. You can learn a lot by tossing someone a rope and seeing what they decide to do with it. I think pretending there's just "a few bad apples" is absurd, but even so, the saying goes: "spoil the bunch." The continuing lack of serious accountability lets those apples remain in place to just keep spreading their corruption. I think civilian review boards with real teeth would be a good start, but police unions would fight that every step of the way, as I suspect they do with any kind of reform measures. I think the whole concept of law enforcement is well and truly fucked in this country. The wrong kinds of people are being hired and given the wrong kinds of training.

I'm just not someone who buys into this whole, "they have such a dangerous job" mentality. Either way, their safety shouldn't trump my rights.

 
Sir Napsalot

Sir Napsalot

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bursto

bursto

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i find most cops were like the short kids at school, so when they became adults and nobody cared what they said.
So they joined up to the police force to boss others around
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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cannabineer said:
First I’ve heard of it. Apparently mayo is fiercely regional. Now I’m curious about it and Blue Plate.

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JFG and Blue Plate is nearly the same shit in a different jar, really. Same company owns them both, Blue plate is a little sweeter, not quite miracle whip sweet, but close, while JFG is more traditional, potato salad mayo.
They make JFG coffee too, which is popular locally.
 
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