Trump To Turn Himself In

HGCC said:
He won't believe us, and we don't believe him, it's not an argument worth having. Guy likes to make his proclamations.

Everyone did kinda hop on for the "he's gonna get arrested Tuesday" train, one dude pointed out we were going on trumps word, which was dumb. Glad trump was able to grift from his followers more, kudos and fuck em all.
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That all makes sense except that NY City seemed to be making preparations. Either they were drawing conclusions from the same bad info as lots of others or they had inside information. I assumed it was confirmation that something was going down.

Having said that, I still think this is the wrong case to lead with.
 
HGCC said:
He won't believe us, and we don't believe him, it's not an argument worth having. Guy likes to make his proclamations.

Everyone did kinda hop on for the "he's gonna get arrested Tuesday" train, one dude pointed out we were going on trumps word, which was dumb. Glad trump was able to grift from his followers more, kudos and fuck em all.
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I believe that honor is bestowed upon our local chevalier.

Sir Napsalot said:
Has anyone other than Trump confirmed this?
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Highway61 said:
That all makes sense except that NY City seemed to be making preparations. Either they were drawing conclusions from the same bad info as lots of others or they had inside information. I assumed it was confirmation that something was going down.

Having said that, I still think this is the wrong case to lead with.
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NY had to erect those barriers after Trump agitated his supporters to "take our country back" and protest about his fictitious arrest. They had bomb threats and death threats. Especially after Jan 6, security officials have to be proactive.

But, yeah, it was reasonable to draw the conclusion that the barriers were in preparation for Trump's arrest. Just more proof that nothing he says can be taken at face value. That effing Trump muddies up the water.
 
Highway61 said:
Having said that, I still think this is the wrong case to lead with.
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I believe it has to do with the statute of limitations running out on this one and is more than just paying off a hooker big time but has to do with misappropriation of campaign funds to pay her with.

Either way it's just the opening salvo for the bombardment yet to fall on his ever-shrinking world.

:peace:
 
I heard a report that trump told staff to make sure he was photoed in hand cuffs,
that he wanted to be arrested and hauled off to rouse the rabble. The fuck wants
a civil war is what he wants. Not for any reason other than to satiate his own narcissism.
He shouldn't be allowed to hold any office, or run any business. He's Satan incarnate.
 
DIY-HP-LED said:
They were taken over by republicans decades ago and the democrats all left then, now it is an exclusively republican organization. It happened when the white south switched parties en mass over civil rights and the increasing influence of black people and other minorities in the democratic party.
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LBJ thought the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act in 64 and 65 were the right thing to do but he privately worried that he had guaranteed GOP increased power by pissing off Southern Democrats. Richard Nixon and his strategists thereafter had their "Southern Strategy" to pull the disaffected racists out of the Southern Democratic party and into the GOP. That strategy was successful and the GOP now has to deal with having that bunch driving the ship. The GOP recruited those voters at the precise moment they were kicked out of the Democratic Party.
 
He throws the flack like a troll and of course I have to bite for it.
That's all the right does, is obfuscate and distract, they never have a valid argument.
bugzbean said:
Wasn't the kkk founded by democrats.........lolz.
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DIY-HP-LED said:
the white south switched parties en mass over civil rights and the increasing influence of black
people and other minorities in the democratic party.
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Bill Moyers loves telling the story about when he was Press secretary for LBJ during
LBJ's signing of the Civil Rights Act in 1964. Moyers said LBJ told him "I think we've
lost the South for a lifetime."

Moyers:
“I said, ‘Quite a day, Mr President.’ As he reached a sheaf of the wire copy he
tilted his head slightly back and held the copy up close to him so that he could read it,
and said: ‘Well, I think we may have lost the south for your lifetime – and mine.’
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Code: 
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/jan/22/we-may-have-lost-the-south-lbj-democrats-civil-rights-act-1964-bill-moyers

Then there was Nixon's taking advantage of the white movement to the right with the unscrupulous GOP's
Southern Strategy tactic:
In American politics, the Southern strategy was a Republican Party electoral strategy to increase political support among white voters in the South by appealing to racism against African Americans. As the civil rights movement and dismantling of Jim Crow laws in the 1950s and 1960s visibly deepened existing racial tensions in much of the Southern United States, Republican politicians such as presidential candidate Richard Nixon and Senator Barry Goldwater developed strategies that successfully contributed to the political realignment of many white, conservative voters in the South who had traditionally supported the Democratic Party
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Code: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy
 
doughper said:
"I think we've
lost the South for a lifetime."
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And that might have been true had a small fraction of Nixon's corruption not come to light after his henchmen burglarized the Democratic National Committee Headquarters in the Watergate Hotel.

But Watergate is an event that pails in comparison to how corrupt was Nixon's "monkey wrenching" peace talks with North Vietnam to make sure that Humphrey would not get credit for ending the war before the 68 election. The war continued thereafter for seven more years. In any event, Nixon's corruption and Jimmy Carter's southern roots helped the Democrats overcome having jettisoned the folks who are now making Kevin McCarthy's life miserable.
 
Highway61 said:
LBJ thought the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act in 64 and 65 were the right thing to do but he privately worried that he had guaranteed GOP increased power by pissing off Southern Democrats. Richard Nixon and his strategists thereafter had their "Southern Strategy" to pull the disaffected racists out of the Southern Democratic party and into the GOP. That strategy was successful and the GOP now has to deal with having that bunch driving the ship. The GOP recruited those voters at the precise moment they were kicked out of the Democratic Party.
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Young southern Democrats then are Republicans now

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Except that creepy older guy in the upper left. He's gone libertarian.
 
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