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Roger A. Shrubber
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whoever it turns out to be, Luke will hero worship them, and claim they were just trying to keep the press free and honest...
DIY-HP-LED
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Yep, Vlad is so smart he will soon be able to fly, out a window. It amazes me how so many Americans can be so deluded for so long, but once a moron turns you into his stooge and useful idiot among friends and family. It's hard to admit you've been such an idiot and are so flawed as to get sucked in by such simpleminded bullshit spewed by the worst person alive. Then there are the evil ones, those who know better but vote republican anyway, they all followed him to Russia's side in their war crimes and if they didn't see Bucha, they didn't care anyway.
Yeah, Putin is so brilliant he just got indicted, but then again so did Trump, both are losers who can't handle the truth, just like their fans.
'Top of the line': Trump praises 'brilliant' Xi, Kim Jong-Un, Putin
49,706 views Apr 12, 2023 #Trump #Putin #KimJongUn
In a Tuesday interview with Fox News, former President Trump praised authoritarian figures like President Xi, Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong-Un. The Morning Joe panel discusses Trump's fondness for these figures and what i says about him.
Yeah, Putin is so brilliant he just got indicted, but then again so did Trump, both are losers who can't handle the truth, just like their fans.
'Top of the line': Trump praises 'brilliant' Xi, Kim Jong-Un, Putin
49,706 views Apr 12, 2023 #Trump #Putin #KimJongUn
In a Tuesday interview with Fox News, former President Trump praised authoritarian figures like President Xi, Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong-Un. The Morning Joe panel discusses Trump's fondness for these figures and what i says about him.
Fogdog
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Gak. That was a hard listen but then again, he's not lying this time. Maybe Trump is turning over a new leaf? He's going to start telling the truth. After all, his site is named Truth Social.
I look forward to hearing him talk about how he colluded with Russia and sold out Ukraine in order to win the election. Who knows? This new Trump might even set the record straight about Jan 6.
DIY-HP-LED
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I posted it in the war thread for a reason, the war for the soul of America is part and key to a larger struggle. Liberal democracy is the only option for the future, there is no other without self-destruction by our rapidly developing technology.
Roger A. Shrubber
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stop, you're killing me.
cannabineer
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He has a guru to guide him on this journey of the soul. Someone who will always be there for him.
BudmanTX
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you made me spit out my coffee with that.......
BudmanTX
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BudmanTX
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it is true, the vid is out there.....i am for one not gonna re-post it, but i will let the Hague have it.......
www.ndtv.com
"Russia Worse Than ISIS": Ukraine As Beheading Video Of Captive Emerges
Ukraine compared Russia on Wednesday to Islamic State, after a video emerged online showing apparent Russian soldiers filming themselves beheading a Ukrainian captive with a knife.
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Roger A. Shrubber
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why is it so hard for muck to understand that Ukraine is a sovereign nation with rights, just like any other nation?
Why is it so hard for muck to shut the fuck up about things he doesn't understand? Perhaps because he just assumes he understands EVERYTHING, and that the rest of us are inferior to his intellect...like most fascist.
BudmanTX
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idk Elon is one the wrong side of history with this......there is chatter around that Elon has law suits in Germany, i haven't verified though...if true, it would break Elon, cause the law suits are larger than what's Twitter is worth...
Roger A. Shrubber
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https://techcrunch.com/2023/01/25/elon-musk-twitter-antisemitic-hate-speech-lawsuit-germany/
https://techcrunch.com/2023/04/04/twitter-netzdg-germany/
you talking about this? it looks like they have a 50 million Euro fine cap...unless they can hit him with multiple fines, that ain't gonna break him
Fogdog
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In light of Trump's comments where he praised Dictators and authoritarian regimes that are harming their own people and economies while threatening if not making war on their neighbors, I figured I'd post this to set the record straight about Trump's agreement with Putin over Ukraine.
Published 2:05 AM EDT, Sat March 26, 2022
4 things to remember about Trump, Ukraine and Putin
It’s easy to forget that a few years ago, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky wasn’t known for his steely wartime leadership, but for getting dragged by Trump into the US political scandal that led to Trump’s first impeachment.
Experts say Trump’s actions weakened Ukraine, divided NATO, emboldened Putin and helped get us to where we are today. And even with Trump no longer in office, his impact lives on in the form of Putin-friendly commentary in conservative media and from some Republican lawmakers.
“One of the key reasons Putin probably felt comfortable launching the invasion of Ukraine was the extent to which the West has been weakened and destabilized, and democracy undermined, and political divisions sown, in the five years since he attacked our election in 2016,” said Garrett Graff, a historian and journalist with expertise in national security and Cold War issues.
Trump's and the GOP's antipathy to NATO. Their degradation of our allies while fawning over adversarial authoritarians like Putin. These are not why Putin invaded Ukraine, but those actions were at the fork in the road that led to it.
Published 2:05 AM EDT, Sat March 26, 2022
4 things to remember about Trump, Ukraine and Putin
It’s easy to forget that a few years ago, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky wasn’t known for his steely wartime leadership, but for getting dragged by Trump into the US political scandal that led to Trump’s first impeachment.
Experts say Trump’s actions weakened Ukraine, divided NATO, emboldened Putin and helped get us to where we are today. And even with Trump no longer in office, his impact lives on in the form of Putin-friendly commentary in conservative media and from some Republican lawmakers.
“One of the key reasons Putin probably felt comfortable launching the invasion of Ukraine was the extent to which the West has been weakened and destabilized, and democracy undermined, and political divisions sown, in the five years since he attacked our election in 2016,” said Garrett Graff, a historian and journalist with expertise in national security and Cold War issues.
Trump's and the GOP's antipathy to NATO. Their degradation of our allies while fawning over adversarial authoritarians like Putin. These are not why Putin invaded Ukraine, but those actions were at the fork in the road that led to it.
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BudmanTX
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yep, according to one reports he's got like 600 case or something like that......at 50mil a case....well....we'll see
Roger A. Shrubber
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That would do the job....i doubt he has a spare $30 Billion laying about...Actually $32.9 Billion, i forgot the fines were in Euros
BudmanTX
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it would effectively give him the big charizo......That would do the job....i doubt he has a spare $30 Billion laying about...Actually $32.9 Billion, i forgot the fines were in Euros
Roger A. Shrubber
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the reaction some republicans have mystifies me...How can people who self label as "patriot" not only condone putin's behavior, but openly support it? Unless someone can offer a different explanation, the only thing i can come up with is that they actually don't give a single fuck about the entire situation, and openly support putin to pwn libs....anything a democrat or a liberal supports must automatically be gainsay-ed, for no other reason than a democrat or a liberal said it. I doubt most of the freedumb carcass could speak intelligently for more than 60 seconds about the war, all they know are the talking points they use to turn conversations into arguments.
DIY-HP-LED
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They also shit on the US intelligence community and fucked over the military while trashing them and their war fighting ability as too "woke". They Attacked America and its constitution more than its allies, like Nazi Germany, you were the first victims, others came after.
Fogdog
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Follow the money. Trump was Putin's money launderer before he moved on to bigger grifts as President. Oligarch money is found throughout the GOP congressmen.
Russian oligarch made political contributions to Sen. Schumer and the oligarch's associates spent millions on U.S. influence - OpenSecrets News
Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) reported political contributions from Viktor Vekselberg and the Russian oligarch's associates poured millions into currying influence in the U.S.
www.opensecrets.org
While Schumer’s campaign cash is Vekselberg’s only political contribution, the oligarch’s associates have poured millions more into U.S. influence.
Millions of dollars in political contributions and influence spending can be traced to Russian billionaire Oleg Deripaska and billionaire Leonard “Len” Blavatnik, a native of Soviet Ukraine who grew up in Moscow and now has dual U.S.-U.K. citizenship. Both are business associates of Vekselberg.
Companies tied to Vekselberg, Blavatnik and Deripaska collectively own about three-quarters of Rusal, one of the world’s largest aluminum producers.
After a multimillion-dollar lobbying effort that helped Deripaska publicly distance himself from the companies, the Treasury Department lifted sanctions on Rusal in January 2019 as well as sanctions on its majority owner, EN+ Group, a hydropower-to-metals company once officially controlled by Deripaska.
Deripaska remains subject to U.S. sanctions imposed in 2018 due to his role in Russia’s 2016 election interference efforts as well as allegations that he “bribed a government official, ordered the murder of a businessman, and had links to a Russian organized crime group.”
Those oligarchs aren't just businessmen either. They are gangsters who operate within Putin's cartel. That's blood money they are using to buy up influence in the US and elsewhere.