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DIY-HP-LED

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The video directly contradicted this, if it is presenting fact. They’re close enough to the front to interfere heavily with short-range drone assaults.

If I heard correctly, this is a months-old problem, so not very dynamic.

They’d be good Atacms targets, but the vid claims the Atacms missiles are affected/diverted by the jamming.

I guess I’m confused by the durability of the Russian jammers in a hotly contested environment. It goes against what I thought I knew about Western capacities to deal with the threat. Maybe this is a gap in the military aid Ukraine is getting from Nato partners ~shrug-

Oh well. This seems to be emerging as one of the tough problems. As you said above, the West is paying attention. What we find out will likely be designed into the next generation of battlefield weapons, and upgrades for the guidance packages on current issue. It’s likely to be a big topic in the world’s war colleges over the next decades.
They might be using more than one kind of jammer, especially for the DJI drones that operate on 2.4ghz. It's the same frequency the cavity magnetron in a microwave oven produces and it spews it out as an unstable frequency and 1000 watts, you could cobble together parts from an old microwave oven and a satellite dish and point the assembled junk at a DJI drone and bring it down or fuck up its comms. It also depends on what you mean by jamming, fucking up the comms, overwhelming the electronics with an EM pulse or fucking with the GPS signal.

I would think those trucks would be used to protect high value targets like AA and ammo dumps in the rear from HIMARS and glide bomb attacks. Man portable stuff like anti-drone guns up near the front, since vehicles can't get within a few miles of it without getting nailed.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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They haven't changed much and now have a new Stalin, another murdering bastard is riding atop the herd with another war of aggression. Stalin was Hitler's partner in dividing up Poland before he turned on him, Stalin (of all people) was in shock for a week and paralyzed with fear while the Germans invaded. He ended up consolidating and expanding the empire under a reign of terror that still scars the nation and molded it into the image of the psychopath who ran the place for decades. It is a sick society and Stalin had a lot to do with making it that way. Look what Trump did for America without having total power in just a few years, his sickness will live on in society for years to come.

 

CCGNZ

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The more desperate the Russians become the shriller will be the calls for "peace" by their useful European idiots and magats who will go to the wall to cut funding because Donald wants it. I expect Donald to take time from his many legal problems to pontificate on the matter when Vald gets desperate enough. Joe, Nancy and Mitch locked in a lot of funding for Ukraine already and there is nothing the magats can do about that, just additional funding and the vote on it will split the republicans or their supporters. Funding for Israel means funding for Ukraine too and the republicans can't be seen as not supporting Israel, they are as locked into that with the religious nuts as with abortion and can't change their tune.

However you measure this war, by territory or by the number of troops lost and equipment destroyed, or political instability and support at home Russia is losing badly. The consequences of losing and getting kicked out of Ukraine in humiliation will be political in Russia and I would expect change, so does Vlad, which is why he is trying so hard. They are putting in maximum effort and losing ground while they grow steadily weaker. Having a quarter million troops in Ukraine won't help much if they can't be fed, fueled and supplied with munitions, or equipped to survive the winter in the field.



I like your optimism LED,however I can't see Ukraine mustering the strength to cut Russian positions in 2 and reaching the Sea of Azov,this summers counter offensive was underwhelming to say the least. Throwing the Ukes some tanks and APC's of somewhat recent vintage and training in NATO tactics without attack choppers and fighter jets was a reach,no NATO force would have attempted that lacking any air elements.In our optimism we expected a knife through butter and didn't give much heed towards the time wasted that allowed all the mining and obstacles and pre-coordinated artillery it allowed the Russians to install. I don't know where the re supply is coming from,France and UK's military's stocks are in sad shape,US congress funding is experiencing push back,to even replicate this summer's effort. Watched Uk's Justin Bonk on Ward Carroll's you tube channel describing all the issues Ukraine faces in deploying F-16's properly and it's a little sobering also. I know Russia's losses and morale issues but stalemate seems probable. Ukraines power grid is also not as capable heading into this winter and Russia has been stockpiled drones and missiles for this winter's assault. And if the improbable Trump 2.0 occurs(gulp) then all bets are off as Europe alone can't keep Ukraine armed and dangerous for long.Putin is licking his chops for that result,if Joe holds serve in 2024 then negotiations are probably in store.
 

CCGNZ

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They haven't changed much and now have a new Stalin, another murdering bastard is riding atop the herd with another war of aggression. Stalin was Hitler's partner in dividing up Poland before he turned on him, Stalin (of all people) was in shock for a week and paralyzed with fear while the Germans invaded. He ended up consolidating and expanding the empire under a reign of terror that still scars the nation and molded it into the image of the psychopath who ran the place for decades. It is a sick society and Stalin had a lot to do with making it that way. Look what Trump did for America without having total power in just a few years, his sickness will live on in society for years to come.

A true and sobering assessment,would we even be here if these 2 Mt. Rushmore rogues of the 20th century had access to today's weaponry
 

DIY-HP-LED

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A true and sobering assessment,would we even be here if these 2 Mt. Rushmore rogues of the 20th century had access to today's weaponry
One good thing about them is they were worried about their own pink little ass and nobody else's, so nukes would put them at risk too. One reason why we haven't had a nuclear war is those starting it will die and know it. Stalin had the bomb in 48 but knew it would be suicide if he ever used it and during the cold war of the early 50s Uncle Sam made that perfectly clear.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Gee, it seems they are having problems with their greatest resource, warm bodies to throw into the meat grinder. They can't keep the troops they have in Ukraine fed and supplied already and shoving more in will be counterproductive. In modern warfare masses of men mean nothing other than more bodies to bury, particularly if airpower is involved, much less artillery, drones and all the other things that will kill them at a safe distance.

In the past their shear mass would overwhelm a country like Ukraine, no matter how incompetent their army, but with allies, support and modern weapons it is a different matter.


The Russian government extended the age limit for conscription to 30 - effective from January 1, 2024. These changes were approved on Friday, November 24, as a result of the adoption of the relevant legislation by the Russian parliament, Interfax news agency reported. Now, men aged 18 to 30 will be enlisted from the beginning of 2024, while previously, the maximum age of enlistment was 27. Expert Igor Efremov, a researcher at the Gaidar Institute for Economic Policy, estimates that taking into account the new age limits, approximately 2 million more men will be drafted into the army in 2024 - 9.14 million men instead of the previous 6.8 million.
 

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Gee, it seems they are having problems with their greatest resource, warm bodies to throw into the meat grinder. They can't keep the troops they have in Ukraine fed and supplied already and shoving more in will be counterproductive. In modern warfare masses of men mean nothing other than more bodies to bury, particularly if airpower is involved, much less artillery, drones and all the other things that will kill them at a safe distance.

In the past their shear mass would overwhelm a country like Ukraine, no matter how incompetent their army, but with allies, support and modern weapons it is a different matter.


The Russian government extended the age limit for conscription to 30 - effective from January 1, 2024. These changes were approved on Friday, November 24, as a result of the adoption of the relevant legislation by the Russian parliament, Interfax news agency reported. Now, men aged 18 to 30 will be enlisted from the beginning of 2024, while previously, the maximum age of enlistment was 27. Expert Igor Efremov, a researcher at the Gaidar Institute for Economic Policy, estimates that taking into account the new age limits, approximately 2 million more men will be drafted into the army in 2024 - 9.14 million men instead of the previous 6.8 million.
"Quantity has a quality all its own"

The gains the Russians have taken lately has not come from advanced weapons but throwing a mass of soldiers with rifles and mortars at a treeline and loosing 90% of them. But every time 10% get to where they want to go they can dig in and have a place for the next 10% to join them. Eventually they move forward inch by inch. Already there is talk of the Ukrainians loosing Avdiivka unless they can push the Russians back miles from the rail line. The Ukrainians do not have the manpower or ammunition to do it though.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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"Quantity has a quality all its own"

The gains the Russians have taken lately has not come from advanced weapons but throwing a mass of soldiers with rifles and mortars at a treeline and loosing 90% of them. But every time 10% get to where they want to go they can dig in and have a place for the next 10% to join them. Eventually they move forward inch by inch. Already there is talk of the Ukrainians loosing Avdiivka unless they can push the Russians back miles from the rail line. The Ukrainians do not have the manpower or ammunition to do it though.
I expect them to lose Avdiivka and I expect 10s of thousands of dead Russians and lots of destroyed equipment over it. Quantity used to be more important before we could kill in quantity too. There are only so many Russians they can stuff into the place before they starve to death from lack of logistics. It's about destroying Russian military power at this point, not so much about ground taken or lost, the ground will be taken when Russian military power in Ukraine has been destroyed.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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It's another Russian graveyard, a place they can kill a lot of attacking Russians and destroy more equipment from defensive positions. Why take casualties attacking them when they conveniently come to you for destruction? If they lose the place a lot of Russians will die for it and a lot of equipment will be destroyed over it.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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DIY-HP-LED

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If it is doing this to the Ukrainians who have been preparing, imagine what it is doing to the Russians, many who have not been prepared or cared about.


Snow storms cut off thousands of homes in Ukraine

More than 2,000 Ukrainian cities, towns and villages are without power this morning amid freezing temperatures, high winds and heavy snowstorms.

“In total, 2,019 settlements in 16 regions are cut off from the grid,” the interior ministry said.

At least 1,370 cargo trucks were stuck and 840 cars had to be towed away because of snow drifts up to two metres high, minister Ihor Klymenko added.
 
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