I know you are suppose to cut and root clones indoors before transplanting to an outdoor grow op but is it possible to cutt from your outdoor plants way back in the forest, dip the cutting in hormone there, place that cutting in a hole in the ground surrounded with the proper cloning medium/soil, spray the entire clone with cloning wax to prevent transpiration, and then have it grow into a plant? Even if I could just get a %50 success rate that way I'd rather do that and cut, clone and root ENTIRELY at the guerilla op then cut, root, transport, and then transplant from a far away indoor location.
Cutting and planting clones entirely outdoors
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kkday
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amin! come on someone has to know somthing!?!?! if not i will try this summer.
naturalhigh
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i would say this is dooo able...however i would go one step further..and dont put them in soill..you better just by rooting plugs and put them in the plugs...moist them...spray the leaves and use a nursery tray and humidity dome.....granted putting everything in a sunny location at your spot..and come back every 2 o 3 days to open it up and re spray...you could do the soil thing but..however if you put them in the ground..it may be too cold...and you couldnt keep the moisture constent..they would surely die...or another idea..is get a solar panel and airstones and make your open bubbler cloner outside..and then when you see roots you trans plant them into soill...
Mco2405
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very interesting, did you take into account how long your summer is... I'd like to try this too, however i'm in the Northern midwest and I have a kind of short summer, don't know how long they would veg... that's why i start mother plants ahead of time and use clones in spring-early summer. I love the idea though!
Hmmm I think that would work. And the humidity dome could have a greenhouse affect keeping not only the humidity nice and high but also the temperature warmer. I think this would work. Now instead of germinating 200 seeds and transporting all of them to the guerilla grow I can just germinate like 50 and do 150 cuttings there at the guerilla op. Boy that would be much much easier. Appreciate all the input.
South Texas
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Take notes, Students. Literally. Todays lesson is Cloning outdoors. If your growing season is not long enough, move ... or do stuff indoors. But, for outdoor cloning, we need to go back at least 1,000 years, and see what the Chinese did. The method in which you prescribe to takes a lot of practice, indoors & under the very best of circumstances. The original question asker- What is your success rate indoors, thus far?....
The method you need to take is called "Air-Layering". It's fucking ingenious. There is several descriptions on the method. Beware of advice given by "experts" that has something to sell you. Listen to all, especially Master Gardeners that isn't selling jack. The method, in short, is to peal the very exterior skin off a branch-too much, no-go, add a rooting compound to the wound- I recommend "Garrett Juice", then wrap the wound with pre-soaked (in Garrett Juice) peat moss, wrap in clear plastic (so you can see inside), and the wound will sprout roots. Once that happens..... cut, spray with liquid seaweed, place in really good high nutrient soil, and baby sit for a week or so. Do your homework first.
The method you need to take is called "Air-Layering". It's fucking ingenious. There is several descriptions on the method. Beware of advice given by "experts" that has something to sell you. Listen to all, especially Master Gardeners that isn't selling jack. The method, in short, is to peal the very exterior skin off a branch-too much, no-go, add a rooting compound to the wound- I recommend "Garrett Juice", then wrap the wound with pre-soaked (in Garrett Juice) peat moss, wrap in clear plastic (so you can see inside), and the wound will sprout roots. Once that happens..... cut, spray with liquid seaweed, place in really good high nutrient soil, and baby sit for a week or so. Do your homework first.
smalltownDill
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oh yes it can be done do it every year with about 75%sucess rate i just cut and dip like usuall stick it in the hole but then i put a bushy piece of tree beside the hole so it get's 50/50 sun and shade and come back the next week to water and there almost alway growing again hope this helps
Jester88
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Thanks a lot for the info guys! I think what I'm going to do is bring a couple 2 dollar trays with rockwool cubes and 7 dollar humidity domes with a heating blanket underneathe it all. Cut, dip in root hormone, put in trays, spray with cloning wax, put dome and heating blanket on and put in a shady spot. Come back a few days later and transplant in their nice little irrigation spot. Hell now that I think of it I might just germinate in the woods too!
mulishadude
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i live in australia but it can definately be done i do it just into topsoil dirt with honey
sargent mowinstein
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ok so i have done the outdoor cloning thing for 2 years now soon to be 3. first off im live in southern ontario and ive only been doing cuttings on bag seed plants. and i have on average no less then a 50% loss rate.
all i do is do the approite cut on plants that youd noramally just be topping or pruning, why throw the top or pruned end away when it can becme another plant? lol
so what i do is make the cut with a clean razor blade, and immedatly place the cutting into a water bottle so the sterm is submargedfor 24 hours. this will stop oxgyen bubbles from getting into the stem and killing it, also im sure it provides a healthy boost in water for the transformation the next day.
then i cut off the fan leaves and make a second clean cut of a 45 degree angle right below a node. then dip in rooting powder and place firmly into soil. WANING WHEN USINGING POWDER ROOTING HORMONE ONLY GET IT ON THE PART YOU JUST CUT. IT WILL BURN THE UNCUT SOFT WOOD STEM
then place them in a humiditly dome untill you are sure there has been root growth then take out of the dome and plant like anyother !
all i do is do the approite cut on plants that youd noramally just be topping or pruning, why throw the top or pruned end away when it can becme another plant? lol
so what i do is make the cut with a clean razor blade, and immedatly place the cutting into a water bottle so the sterm is submargedfor 24 hours. this will stop oxgyen bubbles from getting into the stem and killing it, also im sure it provides a healthy boost in water for the transformation the next day.
then i cut off the fan leaves and make a second clean cut of a 45 degree angle right below a node. then dip in rooting powder and place firmly into soil. WANING WHEN USINGING POWDER ROOTING HORMONE ONLY GET IT ON THE PART YOU JUST CUT. IT WILL BURN THE UNCUT SOFT WOOD STEM
then place them in a humiditly dome untill you are sure there has been root growth then take out of the dome and plant like anyother !
naturalhigh
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sounds good but be carful of rockwool..dont over water..