Seed Production. A Tutorial

It's 5 o'clock somewhere

It's 5 o'clock somewhere

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bicycle racer said:
f1 seeds are quite uniform usually and show similar height branching yield etc.. equal amounts of traits of both sexes are shown. some will outshine others of the batch but mostly they are consistent so i would say they are stable they also have 'hybrid vigor' meaning they ussualy grow stronger than either parent because of the refreshed genetics. almost all good strains are a bit inbred from backcrossing to get desirable traits. when you use a f1 male to pollinate a f1 female of the same cross you get f2 these will be unstable and show charecteristics that are more varied either more like the mom or more like the dad you can then find your favorite charecteristics in a male and female f2 and cross again to promote these features or backcross to the original male or female used to get the f1s if you want more traits from one strain than the other. this has to be done a few times to get the traits you want stable. it is very time consuming most breeders do this until they have f5 or f6s at which point all plants should be more or less uniform. there are many ways to go about producing new strains or stabilized crosses.
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This explains alot, thank you for sharing.....
 
bicycle racer

bicycle racer

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thank you i have learned alot on this site from others so i try to share what i know and learn more as i go happy growing.
 
BubbaBlaze

BubbaBlaze

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I was just asking for all these answeres in the cfl forum. im glad i decided to not be satisfied. this is really gonna help on some of my decision making. thanks alote bro.
 
Majikoopa

Majikoopa

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Thank you Fdd! All said and done, I got about 200 seeds this go round from my two 10 inch tall Lowryder plants. Enough so I will not have to track more down again for at least a year! Surprisingly, I also got a total of about 1/2 oz smokable after picking all the seeds out. This method definitely works, and now its time to start growing purely for bud.
 
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fdd2blk

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Majikoopa said:
Thank you Fdd! All said and done, I got about 200 seeds this go round from my two 10 inch tall Lowryder plants. Enough so I will not have to track more down again for at least a year! Surprisingly, I also got a total of about 1/2 oz smokable after picking all the seeds out. This method definitely works, and now its time to start growing purely for bud.
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very nice, glad i could help. :weed:
 
SpruceZeus

SpruceZeus

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Fantastic thread. A++
What are your thoughts on crossing a pure-ish sativa (arjan's ultra haze #1) with a more indica dominant white rhino male.
You see this AUH#1 has a loooooooooooooong flowering time and i'd like to shorten it and plump up the buds while still maintaing at least some of the flavour and high of it. Is this possible or am i just going to end up with a 15 week, heavy indica?

Also the AUHs are clones from a feminized seed, will this have any impact on breeding?
I understand that to stabilize the strain i'll have to find desirable phenos and backcross, how many generations does it usually take before you have what you would call a stable cross?
Sorry for the bombardment of questions, i'm just interested in what is feasable and what would be wasting my time.
Thanks again.
here is my half assed smoke\grow report on last years CC winner.
 
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fdd2blk

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SpruceZeus said:
Fantastic thread. A++
What are your thoughts on crossing a pure-ish sativa (arjan's ultra haze #1) with a more indica dominant white rhino male.
You see this AUH#1 has a loooooooooooooong flowering time and i'd like to shorten it and plump up the buds while still maintaing at least some of the flavour and high of it. Is this possible or am i just going to end up with a 15 week, heavy indica?

Also the AUHs are clones from a feminized seed, will this have any impact on breeding?
I understand that to stabilize the strain i'll have to find desirable phenos and backcross, how many generations does it usually take before you have what you would call a stable cross?
Sorry for the bombardment of questions, i'm just interested in what is feasable and what would be wasting my time.
Thanks again.
here is my half assed smoke\grow report on last years CC winner.
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you can cross those 2. you won't really know what you got until you flower it though.

they say 6 generations to stability.
 
bicycle racer

bicycle racer

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you could also make a f-1 mom out of the most healthy plant that has the balance of traits you want indica/sativa and take clones this would avoid having to stabilize.
 
KushCanuck

KushCanuck

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This is a fantastic tutorial FDD, I've been explaining this for a while but pictures really are worth a 1000 words aren't they. Thank you very much for this, +Rep, I will continue to enjoy your informative posts mate

KC :leaf:
 
nostopin

nostopin

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i have a question FDD. i have a male Nurvana purple power and a Fem G13 WW. thanx to your info i know how to polonate and choose the right plants. but what if i were to just throw the two in a closet and let them do there thing? the prob is the mom wouldnt grow to her full potential since she would be under LEDs. will this efect the seeds and there capabilitys?
 
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fdd2blk

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nostopin said:
i have a question FDD. i have a male Nurvana purple power and a Fem G13 WW. thanx to your info i know how to polonate and choose the right plants. but what if i were to just throw the two in a closet and let them do there thing? the prob is the mom wouldnt grow to her full potential since she would be under LEDs. will this efect the seeds and there capabilitys?
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i don't know. :?
 
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HookedOnChronic

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as long as there is sufficient light id assume things would go according to plan? you can grow dope with some pretty hurting lights....
lets hear it experts
 
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born2killspam

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It would be an interesting experiment.. If any critical process needs multiple wavelengths, I would think it would show up in seed viability..
 
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