Do you believe in God?

Do you believe there is a God?

  • YES, I believe there is a God/creator

    Votes: 92 46.2%
  • NO, I do not believe there is a God/creator

    Votes: 107 53.8%

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icurbyou

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I never believed in all of that either..and I don't teach my kids there is a Santa Clause either.Why lie?
My girlfriend has this same stance. I am on the fence. There is a difference between LYING to your kids and playing MAKE BELIEVE. I think when I have kids I will play the middle ground on the Santa subject.

Its not like when they are 3 and ask "Is that santa?" I will respond with "No, that is actually a commercial scam that fucks people into forcefully having to purchase their children a shit load of gifts once a year".... I will likely say "Yes.. that is santa"... Because in all trueness, it is santa. In all of his glory.

On the flip side I will not trick my children into believing in Santa. If I can tell my child doubts ol' Santa baby, I will certainly be there to assure them their doubts are warranted.
 

jfgordon1

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I never believed in all of that either..and I don't teach my kids there is a Santa Clause either.Why lie?
If i ever have kids, i won't lie to them either. but then again.. it won't be all my decision :dunce:.

Don't you hate at sporting events when somebody scores a touchdown or something, they point at the sky like God helped them out lol... it pisses me off a little inside :cuss:
 

Green Monster

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like i guess their could be a creator.. but i dont believe that like adam and eve were first 2 people.. i dont believe earth was created in 7 days... their prob was a man names jesus who they thought was the massiah but he prob didnt have the powers like they said he did.. i dont believe in the apple in the tree. ..

like to me it seems they make it more interesting so more people would follow
 

We Love 1

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Jesus said "I will be with You until the end of the Age".

http://www.endofage.com/

The majority opinion currently is that there will be another period of 42 months (of 30 days) before the beginning of the reign of the beast to make a total tribulation period of 7 years (of 360 days). Counting back another 1260 days from 4/11/2012 for a total of 7 360-day years brings us to 10/29/2008. One should then expect the Rapture to be on or before this date. However, the majority may be off 30 days in that the tribulation starts on 9/29/2008 with the rapture on 10/29/2008 to fulfill II Thessalonians 2:3 which speaks of the day of the Lord, taken as being the Rapture happening after the man of lawlessness being revealed.

~PEACE~

:D
 

Tryingtomastrkush

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If i ever have kids, i won't lie to them either. but then again.. it won't be all my decision :dunce:.

Don't you hate at sporting events when somebody scores a touchdown or something, they point at the sky like God helped them out lol... it pisses me off a little inside :cuss:
Dude that makes me cringe a little bit too.....Like somehow god had some effect on what just happened.....
 

Hayduke

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Damn I get 6 hours of sleep and work a half day and the pillar of god is fighting for space on the temple mount...blessed are the cheese makers, what's so bloody special about the cheese makers?

Here we go...
If one observes the Bible as the WORD...then you MUST hate homosexuals...you have no choice...else you go against the teachings of the Bible. Nice huh?

The Inquisitions were extensions of the Bible, not perversions.


out. :blsmoke:
I agree on the inquisitions...

cracker you should show me where it says that...or is your information wrong
This one though, I have yet to see the pudding on...

I believe in God because I'm alive. Thats reason enough.

I believe I was born for a reason. Out of all My dads sperm and out of all My Moms eggs, it was Me, I was chosen. And the same for You too. God choose Us.
Dude get over yourself! It was just simply your luck you did not end up in a kleenex. But I am glad you are here none the less!

You just don't get it...I was taught by the Christ
uhhhhh......

BULLSHIT. You're another religious nut with an overinflated ego.If you were taught "by the Christ",the first thing you'd have learned was humility,and you have none of that.Get over yourself.
seriously!

How?I've read the bible, and I know what Jesus was portrayed as, and what he wasn't.And I know that he doesn't personally come down and teach people shit, because he's a MYTH.He is a work of fiction.And if someone says they see him, and speak to him, and he speaks back, on a regular basis, they are either:1.Tripping or 2.Crazier than a shithouse rat.
shit house rats are always snickering behind my back, I figured I had something stuck in my teeth...I do not know shit-for-sure, but I could see there actually being a person "jesus" who had some good points on being nice...but his mom was a whore and cheated on his not to bright dad!

Don't mind stoney, she thinks she knows it all. :roll:And shes very rude when someone has an alternative opinion.

It seems like the athiests are usually mean. Maybe its because they don't have God in their lives?

Jesus died for your sins too stoney. Jesus loves you.

:mrgreen:
No she is not. I seem to end up in the same threads and have read a lot of her posts. (honestly stoney I am not stalking you!) Nothing you said about her is true.

Atheists are not mean. Some mean people are atheists. I have never been told I was going to burn for eternity by an atheist. They usually do not "pass judgment", just disagree. They can do that because there is no threat in disagreement. If they do not know something, they are able to say so rather than throwing their hands to the heavens and claiming "faith" for every question they are unable to answer.

And no Jesus (if he ever existed) died from, not for, intolerance...and entertainment.

T I know when someone is pissing on my boots and telling me it's a rainstorm.Jesus didn't exist, he didn't die for me. religious sheeple don't listen to reason.
Hey stoney you might want to get started on your ark, and don't forget the dinos!

Sheeple...hehehe!

Well this is the area which church fathers LOATHE to talk about. :lol: Since I am not affiliated with any superstitions, I'll give it a go. [...]


Either way is a disaster for the church...one of the very reasons why they don't talk to the sheep about it.


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I chopped out the good stuff to save space, if interested click the red box to return to original post!

Very good stuff cracker dude!

I guess I see the bible in the same way I see the Illiad and the Odyssey. They are just stories.
Watch out for those cyclops and lastrogonians, and always keep your heart on Ithaca!

The difference is I don't believe we will benefit in the end. I think when its over and you die then you die and its over. You being who you are ceases to exist. its neither good nor bad I just think when you die its over and thats all there is to it.

People shouldn't have to live their lives in fear of what may or may not happen when they die. They should live their lives happy that they get this 1 and only chance to be the person you are. Enjoy it. Do what makes you happy and ignore the people who tell you you are wrong
Awoman brother!

The Romans thought Christianity was a blessing indeed. here was a religion which promised great things upon death, no matter how badly life treated you. the perfect SLAVE religion. The Romans obliged and tested their theories with relish. :lol: (whip crack) ty sir, may I have another!! Don't worry, you'll be paid back upon death.....they must have laughed their asses off....:mrgreen:


out. :blsmoke:
Perfect tool of oppression!

thats pretty much what this movie is about.
Its a good one if you haven't seen it



In queue in my netflix! People do n ot know it is out because some theaters refused to show it. I live in the Alabama of SoCal and a friend said it was packed...maybe there is hope.

i broke down one time... walked and walked... came to a church, though "Oh, thank god, now i can make a phone call" The two people that run the church a man and a wife were trimming bushes. I explained my situation and asked if i could use a phone. They said NO. Apparently the 18 year old white kid scared them or some shit!! Or maybe its cuz i wasn't putting money into their coffers. Or... maybe being Christian means absolute JACK. I know a Jehovah's Witness, literature and all, he's undoubtedly one of the biggest assholes i know.

I am NOT impressed by whatever religion people claim to have. More often than not, they -exercise- this religion for one hour on Sunday.

The bible that i read from front to back when i was little had some very wierd shit in it. One of the things i remember is that women who are menstruating, according to that bible Version, are not to come to church because they are "unclean". Like they are in the wrong, or not pure enough at that time to receive God's Blessings. I was like, WTF?!
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I lived in a VW bus while following the Grateful Dead. I would often park and sleep in either Denney's or church parking lots...I rolled into a church with big illuminated letters claiming that it was the "Church of Christ". It was 4am on a Monday morning...6am the cops roll through and tell me to move along. I ask if the church has asked me to leave as it is private property, and if not could I stay until they do as I needed some sleep before being safe on the road. The pig said sure (probably called the high fondler) and 30 minutes later was told that the church asked me to leave...What would jesus do? (bumper sticker I saw: "who would jesus bomb")

The scriptures only speak of the Christ...Christ is not the scriptures.

Christ is the understanding of God...And Jesus the man was the first mind created in the likeness of God...becoming the Christ mind in man.

No book taught me that.
So you just made it up then?

Oh yea as for humility...its towards God and not man...for I can not receive the understanding of the scripts by my understanding.
Really? So as long as you are "God fearing" and humble towards god you can be a self-righteous narcissist to all the other sheeple created in gods image?...wait a minute was god a sheep?
Baa-Ram-Euwe!

If god existed why can't you prove it? and if jesus was real why is there no proof?
Christ said he would return at its darkest of time.
yet was AWOL during the 400 years of crusades...they even called it the "Dark Ages" Paging Mr Christos, mr hayseus Christos, please pick up a white service telephone....remember the shithouse rats...?

Hey,tell Christ not to interrupt the dark cycle during flower!:lol:
There goes Stoney again being so mean and hateful! Hilarious as usual.

ahh man.. u gota go ? how old are u my good sir?
like 15, um totally like why would you like ask them like how old they like are? IDK my BFF Jill?

Thanks for playing along kiddies, this was more fun than having a hundred crucifixions to do today and only 300 nails...woohoo!

:leaf::peace::leaf:
 

Stoney McFried

Well-Known Member
So...are you forced or not then, hun?Just say no if you don't wanna go.You're a man now.:peace:
well my mom is very religious and her parents and my dads parents.. its not like their forceing me. its just like she forces me to go to church and stuff like that. she knows i have doubts
No, I've told people to think with their OWN minds and seek their OWN answers.
All I would say is God is love...seek that love.

If you say there is no God...you have condemned all those that would listen
Yeah, but why let some jolly fat guy get all the credit for those presents you bought?:mrgreen:
My girlfriend has this same stance. I am on the fence. There is a difference between LYING to your kids and playing MAKE BELIEVE. I think when I have kids I will play the middle ground on the Santa subject.

Its not like when they are 3 and ask "Is that santa?" I will respond with "No, that is actually a commercial scam that fucks people into forcefully having to purchase their children a shit load of gifts once a year".... I will likely say "Yes.. that is santa"... Because in all trueness, it is santa. In all of his glory.

On the flip side I will not trick my children into believing in Santa. If I can tell my child doubts ol' Santa baby, I will certainly be there to assure them their doubts are warranted.
Thanks for having my back Hayduke.You get a seat on my ark!Oh...and apparently, Venus is giving off infrared bursts, so pretty soon we'll see the conspiracy theorists swearing its someone on the surface with a signaling mirror!http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20090225/sc_space/venusglowsininvisiblelight;_ylt=AvRpaAwG9g1ERxVurja2R5_Zn414
Damn I get 6 hours of sleep and work a half day and the pillar of god is fighting for space on the temple mount...blessed are the cheese makers, what's so bloody special about the cheese makers?

Here we go...
I agree on the inquisitions...

This one though, I have yet to see the pudding on...


Dude get over yourself! It was just simply your luck you did not end up in a kleenex. But I am glad you are here none the less!

uhhhhh......

seriously!

shit house rats are always snickering behind my back, I figured I had something stuck in my teeth...I do not know shit-for-sure, but I could see there actually being a person "jesus" who had some good points on being nice...but his mom was a whore and cheated on his not to bright dad!


No she is not. I seem to end up in the same threads and have read a lot of her posts. (honestly stoney I am not stalking you!) Nothing you said about her is true.

Atheists are not mean. Some mean people are atheists. I have never been told I was going to burn for eternity by an atheist. They usually do not "pass judgment", just disagree. They can do that because there is no threat in disagreement. If they do not know something, they are able to say so rather than throwing their hands to the heavens and claiming "faith" for every question they are unable to answer.

And no Jesus (if he ever existed) died from, not for, intolerance...and entertainment.

Hey stoney you might want to get started on your ark, and don't forget the dinos!

Sheeple...hehehe!


I chopped out the good stuff to save space, if interested click the red box to return to original post!

Very good stuff cracker dude!


Watch out for those cyclops and lastrogonians, and always keep your heart on Ithaca!


Awoman brother!


Perfect tool of oppression!



In queue in my netflix! People do n ot know it is out because some theaters refused to show it. I live in the Alabama of SoCal and a friend said it was packed...maybe there is hope.



I lived in a VW bus while following the Grateful Dead. I would often park and sleep in either Denney's or church parking lots...I rolled into a church with big illuminated letters claiming that it was the "Church of Christ". It was 4am on a Monday morning...6am the cops roll through and tell me to move along. I ask if the church has asked me to leave as it is private property, and if not could I stay until they do as I needed some sleep before being safe on the road. The pig said sure (probably called the high fondler) and 30 minutes later was told that the church asked me to leave...What would jesus do? (bumper sticker I saw: "who would jesus bomb")

So you just made it up then?

Really? So as long as you are "God fearing" and humble towards god you can be a self-righteous narcissist to all the other sheeple created in gods image?...wait a minute was god a sheep?
Baa-Ram-Euwe!



yet was AWOL during the 400 years of crusades...they even called it the "Dark Ages" Paging Mr Christos, mr hayseus Christos, please pick up a white service telephone....remember the shithouse rats...?

There goes Stoney again being so mean and hateful! Hilarious as usual.

like 15, um totally like why would you like ask them like how old they like are? IDK my BFF Jill?

Thanks for playing along kiddies, this was more fun than having a hundred crucifixions to do today and only 300 nails...woohoo!

:leaf::peace::leaf:
 

GregD88

Well-Known Member
God is everything, in My opinion. How could He not be? But whos to say God is a man anyways?

I actually saw God in the sky! God had long wavy hair. I couldn't make out the face because it was lit up by the Sun.

God loves Us.

~PEACE~

:bigjoint:
Dude no offense but I'm pretty sure you're insane.

like i guess their could be a creator.. but i dont believe that like adam and eve were first 2 people.. i dont believe earth was created in 7 days... their prob was a man names jesus who they thought was the massiah but he prob didnt have the powers like they said he did.. i dont believe in the apple in the tree. ..

like to me it seems they make it more interesting so more people would follow
If there was only adam and eve the entire human race would be physically and mentally impaired. Anyone ever heard of inbreeding? Also pretty much EVERYTHING in the bible is exaggerated like when moses (or h/e you spell his name) parted the red sea. It's been scientifically proven that it was only the reed sea and the slaves could walk through the mucky water but the soldiers couldn't with their armor and chariots.
 

Hayduke

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All I would say is God is love...seek that love.

If you say there is no God...you have condemned all those that would listen
I wish someone would have condemned me instead of lying to me.

If god is Love, then the converse must be true; therefore Love is god.
I believe in Love so maybe I do believe in god. (capitalization is not in error).

However, though admittedly crazier than a shithouse rat, believe we were referring to the GOD argued over by the big 3 "religions", and though this minority sect of christianity does exist (hippies) The fire and brimstone, angel evicting, cloud surfing old white dude with the stylie beard... is not Love.

If you will be judged by god, god is not Love. Love does not judge.

If you tell someone that god is love, YOU have condemned all those that would listen, to a loveless life of shame, fear, and hate.

Maybe I have misunderstood you (with all the "learned it from the christ crap") and your god is love.

If so, I love you. This makes you god. You are now empowered to spread love (god if it helps you sleep, I just smoke). To all. Without judgement. Without threats or conditions....Kumbyf'nya! Peace on Earth! Shalom! Awoman!

:leaf::peace::leaf:
 

Stoney McFried

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Lookit this creepy crap.
Recruiting God's Army

Marysville Church Seeks Converts at Public Schools

by Dominic Holden


Via Flickr User knowhimonline


A church in Marysville has crossed the line from volunteering at local public schools to recruiting kids into a "cult," says the mother of one of the students. The Turning Point Church sends roughly a dozen adult "youth leaders" to six schools in northwestern Washington once a week, where they hang out during lunch hours, chat with students, and join in sports games.
"We can be someone in their life to say everything is going to be okay and God is still good," says Emily Masten, one of the youth staff leaders and a receptionist for the church.




Doug Honig, a spokesman for the state American Civil Liberties Union, says that although the Washington State constitution "has strong provisions about separation of religion and government, including schools," what's allowed under the constitution has been determined on a case-by-case basis.
In Marysville, problems arose earlier this week when a church delegate attempted to entice a Totem Middle School student into an evening church meeting with promises of rides, games, and espresso. The church maintains a youth group called 180 and another group called 628 (for kids from sixth to eighth grades).
Rianne Olver was alarmed when she saw a MySpace message sent from an adult female youth leader to her 11-year-old daughter, inviting her to the church meeting:
Hey, 628 tonight!
6 o clock, free espresso for visitors. Super rad games and activities.
Hang out with cool people. Plus you are really cool so it would just make it that much cooler.
Are you going to be there? If you need a ride, I can hook it up :)
"She even offered to come to my house and pick up my daughter without me knowing about it," Olver says. "I wonder how many other kids got this message and were so excited that an older person thinks they're cool and wants to buy them espresso."
The nondenominational church is unusual in other ways, too. In one sermon, Pastor Mike Villamor advocates that "Christians should be sex-perts." He goes on: "Ladies, here's the answer to 90 percent of your troubles: sex and sleep."
Several people have posted aggressively on a web page where they allege the Turning Point Church is cultish.
But Masten dismisses the cult claims. "[The church] is just different because people are actually caring," she says. "If people don't understand something, there are two reactions: You make fun of it or you get scared of it."
Masten confirms that youth leaders discuss the church and God with students on school property, but says they do so only when asked. Their purpose is "just to be there and to love them and hang out with them," she says. However, she acknowledges that if students want to provide contact information, youth leaders contact them about the evening services.
"Most youth leaders will do bulk texting to students they have met once or twice," says Masten. "It's just like, 'Hey do you want to come over and hang out at my house?'" says Masten. (Basically, adults directly soliciting social engagements from 11-year-old children.) Youth leaders may neglect to contact parents because it is "something that they are not really mindful of yet," she says.
It's something they will become mindful of soon.
After hearing Olver's complaints yesterday afternoon, the Marysville School District called Turning Point Church to tell them they must cease lunchtime visits to Totem Middle School. The group will continue renting space for sermons at the school on Sundays. Gail Miller, assistant superintendent of the Marysville School District, says, "They can't proselytize and they cannot solicit individual student's contact information."
Other groups, including retirees and Tulalip Tribe members, have been volunteering at the school this year to reverse what Miller describes as chronic "classroom disruptions." Last year, Totem Middle School students walked out to protest discipline problems. The youth leaders from Turning Point Church were allowed on campus to "increase adult presence at lunch time," Miller says.
But, she adds, "We are doing an investigation because, if [Olver] is correct in that this is what is happening, that is inappropriate. If students ask them questions, they can answer matter-of-factly, but they cannot seek them out." Although the church has been barred from lunches at the middle school, youth workers are still allowed at Marysville Pilchuck High School.
 

CrackerJax

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Here's something a little more timely...check this religous tard out...:lol:

WINNIPEG, Manitoba – A man accused of beheading and cannibalizing a passenger on a Greyhound bus apologized to police when he was arrested and begged officers to kill him. The details emerged Tuesday as Vince Li started his murder trial by pleading not guilty. "I'm sorry. I'm guilty. Please kill me," Li said, according to an agreed statement of facts read in court.

The Chinese immigrant is accused of the second-degree murder last summer of Tim McLean, a 22-year-old carnival worker who was killed in what passengers described as a random, horrific attack.

Li's lawyers are not disputing that he killed McLean, but they will argue Li was mentally ill and not criminally responsible. A psychiatrist told the court Li is schizophrenic and believed God told him to do it.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090303/ap_on_re_ca/canada_bus_beheading;_ylt=Ag5aEBDnUDK5NxfGWuFOY7XgtY54

http://snipurl.com/d1a9p


In the name of logic...make it stop...


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pillarize

Well-Known Member
The daughters are the so many relgions made from the bible...now if there teaching are from the bible....then the bible must be the mother.

You know where that leads?
 

Green Monster

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like i dont mind going, i just do it cuz i wanna make her happy. i just dont pay attention and its only like 45 min every sunday
 

CrackerJax

New Member
like i dont mind going, i just do it cuz i wanna make her happy. i just dont pay attention and its only like 45 min every sunday
That sounds like just about every other kid I know... :clap: :mrgreen:

Don't worry, you'll be able to walk (run?) out of the fog when you are on your own..... :lol: :peace:


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Stoney McFried

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The bible IS a part of religion, you can't separate them in order to claim some sort of credibility.Jesus is a product of the Bible, which is the foundation for Christianity.:roll:
The daughters are the so many relgions made from the bible...now if there teaching are from the bible....then the bible must be the mother.

You know where that leads?
I hear what you're saying.I'm just saying, if you tell her you don't want to go, she should respect that.It's nice you love your mom, though.
like i dont mind going, i just do it cuz i wanna make her happy. i just dont pay attention and its only like 45 min every sunday
 
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