There Is No Devil.

FoxCompany426

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Honestly...i'd believe more that it happened by chance...rather than one being creating EVERYTHING...including the 100 billion galaxies? Or maybe the 10 billion trillion stars? Seems like a lot of work.
So your saying that you would rather believe that some speck in the middle of non existence exploded and brought all of us here to this planet with all these amazing plants, animals, etc... that all require each other to live in harmony instead of thinking, "hey, maybe there is a dude out there that made us...?"

That's fine by me. Personally, I'd rather spend the rest of my life doing my best to be my best and believing that one day I'll be in a place that's perfect. Actually, it makes me feel good.
 

CrackerJax

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So your saying that you would rather believe that some speck in the middle of non existence exploded and brought all of us here to this planet with all these amazing plants, animals, etc... that all require each other to live in harmony instead of thinking, "hey, maybe there is a dude out there that made us...?"

That's fine by me. Personally, I'd rather spend the rest of my life doing my best to be my best and believing that one day I'll be in a place that's perfect. Actually, it makes me feel good.
Believing in something doesn't make it true. No one would have a problem with Christianity if it behaved like Buddhism or Judaism..... just two examples of religions that do not actively recruit or "spread the word". It's the insistence of correctness and the desire to envelope the world with its doctrines which get ppl ticked off.

But like you said...... "So your saying that you would rather believe that some speck in the middle of non existence exploded and brought all of us here to this planet".

It's really about comfort......not being correct.
 

cbtwohundread

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKGzbh77B88&feature=related

DEVILS DEAD.,.,DEVILS DEAD^,I WAS TALKING TO A CLOUD EARLIER,SHE TOLD ME A ROCK WOULD KNOW WAT HAPPEND TO THE DEVIL SO I WENT TO TALK TO THIS ROCK/.,.THIS ROCK SENT ME TO A VOLCANO,.,I WENT TO THIS VOLCANO, IT SENT I TO THE BERMUDA TRIANGLE,THE BERMUDA TRIANGLE TOLD ME THAT IT SENT THE DEVIL TO A EMPTY DIMINSION 6HUNDREAD AND 65 1/2 MILES FROM PLUTO WHERE HE FROZE .,.,SO I DROVE MY UNICORN OUT TO OUTERSPACE AND FOUND HIM,I TRAPED HIM IN A GENIE LAMP AND BURIED ON A METEOR HEADED FOR THE BLACK HOLE.,.,.KAPOOF HES GONE
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PadawanBater

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So your saying that you would rather believe that some speck in the middle of non existence exploded and brought all of us here to this planet with all these amazing plants, animals, etc... that all require each other to live in harmony instead of thinking, "hey, maybe there is a dude out there that made us...?"

That's fine by me. Personally, I'd rather spend the rest of my life doing my best to be my best and believing that one day I'll be in a place that's perfect. Actually, it makes me feel good.
It has nothing to do with what you would rather believe. I'm not sitting here deciding between creationism and evolution... I'm sitting here looking at the data available, and then concluding that yeah, evolution is clearly the correct answer to the question of how there is so much diversity of life on earth. All the data adds up. It all matches. It all fits. All of it. There's fakes and forgeries? OK, big deal, what about the rest of the data and evidence? The dating methods are innacurate? No they're not, people who make that claim (like fish and shroomer) do not understand how they work. All the dating methods used are completely accurate and they all agree with eachother to verify eachother independently, the only way that could possibly happen is if they all worked. Why do rocks from one layer equal a certain age, then the lower you go the older the rocks get? Why is that? The lower forms of life are less complex and as you go higher they become more complex, why is that?

"hey, maybe there is a dude out there that made us.." - sir, even if that were the case, that doesn't answer any questions. That's the point. Even if the bible and Christianity were true (to which I'd guess you and the rest of the believers haven't really thought that one through all the way, which is the topic of another thread...heaven and all it's "glory") it doesn't say anything about how it all happened, or why, just that God did it.

If living a lie makes you feel good... be my guest, just don't try to get laws passed or pass judgement onto other people in society based on your religious beliefs, it doesn't make much sense.

Science changes. The picture that science painted in the 1700s is different than the picture in the 1800s 1900s 2000s and on and on. And it will continue to evolve.
Science can never prove if you love your wife or children. But there is a reality of love for children and people.
The world is bigger than science. Science is awesome! Jah is awesome!!! Science is the handiwork of God.
Science changes - that's the point. Are you saying that's a bad thing?

Science can prove if you love your wife or children.

missing 95% you dont even understand what i just said why finish LOLthink about this... you said you can not see all the kingdoms of the world unless the earth was flat so if the earth was flat you could see all the kingdoms even the ones thosuands of miles away?
to get the earth is flat out of that verse you must assume they could see really good not to mention there might be another High mountain they cant see over
really man did u even think about this one? i am half goofing around on this verse there are much much bigger problems with thinking that verse was talking about earth being flat feel free to delete your post
Then why did that verse in the bible say "all the kingdoms of the earth" if it did not mean it? - wouldn't you agree that's a clear example of incorrect information?

Do you believe the bible is the word of God, or influenced by God and written by men?
 

BradyBoe

Active Member
Im saying that as soon as we come to world order and the world is controlled by one group of people. Then the religion's are going to change quickly. People are going to start picking up on the whole concept of there being no god and no heaven or hell. It's called evolution. We will evolve farther and farther away from the concept, that Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sin's. We will embrace the thought that we are nothing but energy and energy never goes away, it just changes form. Go back into the 1700 century, look at how serious people took their religion, now it's almost become a joke if you're religious. There are so many religion's, which one is right. And the answer to that, is all of them. They are all right, because they make you focus your attention on something that makes you feel good on the inside, and that's all that life is, it's about us doing thing's that make us honestly feel good on the inside. Whatever you need to do to get that feeling of ease and knowing that life is great, do it. Whether it be Jesus Christ that makes you focus your attention on feeling good or just knowing in your heart of heart's, what is right and what will make you feel good, DO IT!!!! Hope you guy's enjoyed my idea's and thought's. Take care all!!!
 

CrackerJax

New Member
:lol: I'm pretty sure the Christians would go for Armageddon before they allowed that to happen.

That's the trouble with nutty prophecies....ppl try to make them happen.
 

cbtwohundread

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god is that truthful voice in your head that tells you rite from wrong up fom down and round from round.,.,.,.,to me that voice is god,because the voice in my head always tells truths.,and if it lies i die instantly,so if it was that god influenced a man to rite the bible i find that just as go0d.as if god himself wrote it.,.we can overstand each others words,but god speaks in a tongue of wisdom so deep our shallow minds cant float , god lives thru i.,.,and i live thru god.,.,u cant take life from the life giver,.,so if u ask i god is always here as simple as a lamb.,.,.,none sees the simple things anymore,its a shame.,.,fo0lish is the man that says theres no god
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Do6-60yLSw&feature=PlayList&p=27C5A6236AE80E4A&index=40&playnext=6&playnext_from=PL
 

FoxCompany426

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Believing in something doesn't make it true.
Didn't say anything about truth.

No one would have a problem with Christianity if it behaved like Buddhism or Judaism..... just two examples of religions that do not actively recruit or "spread the word".
So your saying we should not allow others to support what they believe?

It's the insistence of correctness and the desire to envelope the world with its doctrines which get ppl ticked off.
Are you yourself not being insistent?

But like you said...... "So your saying that you would rather believe that some speck in the middle of non existence exploded and brought all of us here to this planet".

It's really about comfort......not being correct.
So you caught on at the end there, good for you. :clap:


All the data adds up.
To a big unanswered question.

"hey, maybe there is a dude out there that made us.." - sir, even if that were the case, that doesn't answer any questions. That's the point.
That's just fine and dandy. That was my point the first time.

it doesn't say anything about how it all happened, or why, just that God did it.
We still don't know exactly how or why gravity works, but we believe in it, right?

If living a lie makes you feel good...
How can you label something a lie when you yourself believe in something that has no answer.
just don't try to get laws passed or pass judgement onto other people in society based on your religious beliefs, it doesn't make much sense.
What laws have I pushed?



 

shroomer33

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKGzbh77B88&feature=related

DEVILS DEAD.,.,DEVILS DEAD^,I WAS TALKING TO A CLOUD EARLIER,SHE TOLD ME A ROCK WOULD KNOW WAT HAPPEND TO THE DEVIL SO I WENT TO TALK TO THIS ROCK/.,.THIS ROCK SENT ME TO A VOLCANO,.,I WENT TO THIS VOLCANO, IT SENT I TO THE BERMUDA TRIANGLE,THE BERMUDA TRIANGLE TOLD ME THAT IT SENT THE DEVIL TO A EMPTY DIMINSION 6HUNDREAD AND 65 1/2 MILES FROM PLUTO WHERE HE FROZE .,.,SO I DROVE MY UNICORN OUT TO OUTERSPACE AND FOUND HIM,I TRAPED HIM IN A GENIE LAMP AND BURIED ON A METEOR HEADED FOR THE BLACK HOLE.,.,.KAPOOF HES GONE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9PcNQxM_cQ&feature=related
You are the freakiNG MAN!!!!:blsmoke:
 

shroomer33

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Believing in something doesn't make it true. No one would have a problem with Christianity if it behaved like Buddhism or Judaism..... just two examples of religions that do not actively recruit or "spread the word". It's the insistence of correctness and the desire to envelope the world with its doctrines which get ppl ticked off.

Really???
There is something more to the Christian message than what other 'religions' teach. That is why it pisses people off. As for Judaism, it is the same thing as Christianity, whether you overstand it or not.


Really? You dont see the nature of your question as finite and transient? What would YOU like to see? God is not of the ego conciousness. Those ideas and concepts die when you die.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
Really???
There is something more to the Christian message than what other 'religions' teach. That is why it pisses people off. As for Judaism, it is the same thing as Christianity, whether you overstand it or not.
You have it backwards. Christians are Jews.......rebellious Jews. They were referred to as Christian Jews.

Religion doesn't teach anything that hasn't already been done. Everyone thinks the Bible is somehow an original book.... it is not. It's just a rehash of what was written before.....nothing more.
 

g00sEgg

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There's a difference between supporting what you believe in, and cramming your beliefs down someones throat.
 

Froman

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Just Kill Yourselves already or stop posting in here, no one is gonna win, just a bunch of pointless arguments, like any of you really have a say on anything, like you all know what your talkin about, sounds like a bunch of big headed people who think their right, who gives a fuc, really, go on with your life why even worry about this or that, yall needa wake up if anything
 
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PadawanBater

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Just Kill Yourselves already or stop posting in here, no one is gonna win, just a bunch of pointless arguments, like any of you really have a say on anything, like you all know what your talkin about, sounds like a bunch of big headed people who think their right, who gives a fuc, really, go on with your life why even worry about this or that, yall needa wake up if anything

Well, because things like religion have very important implications on the rest of society.

To hell with letting some self righteous group of asshats tell me how to live my life.

That being the most important issue, for me personally, but another important part of it is educating the public, such as yourself.

The fact you don't see how important this stuff really is, just like the majority of the public, is the biggest underlying problem we face today. It's the reason we keep living life day by day with such things like war, poverty, famine, genocide, and on most levels even murder, theft and rape so common within society.

You sir, need to wake the fuck up.
 

FoxCompany426

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There's a difference between supporting what you believe in, and cramming your beliefs down someones throat.
So your saying that everyone who believes in Christianity, or God for that matter, is trying to force you to believe. There may be those people, but that makes up a small percentage. Are you not now debating in the exact same way?

Just Kill Yourselves already or stop posting in here, no one is gonna win, just a bunch of pointless arguments, like any of you really have a say on anything, like you all know what your talkin about, sounds like a bunch of big headed people who think their right, who gives a fuc, really, go on with your life why even worry about this or that, yall needa wake up if anything
That sort of sums up what I was trying to say. Science and Religion hasn't proven anything, except that we don't understand anything. Everytime science "proves" something, we have more questions than when we started. With religion, we still have unanswered questions. Which brings me back to my original point, are you happy?

You have it backwards. Christians are Jews.......rebellious Jews. They were referred to as Christian Jews.

Religion doesn't teach anything that hasn't already been done. Everyone thinks the Bible is somehow an original book.... it is not. It's just a rehash of what was written before.....nothing more.
Once again you are speaking of something you don't know.
 

Froman

Active Member
hell yea, im happy as can be, not gonna sit here and worry about this or that, or if its true or not, i mean its like i said, if you really want to believe you were once an ape, oe there is no god, its on you, i'd rather believe something then go about my life thinking all this is for nothing
 

Froman

Active Member
Well, because things like religion have very important implications on the rest of society.

To hell with letting some self righteous group of asshats tell me how to live my life.

That being the most important issue, for me personally, but another important part of it is educating the public, such as yourself.

The fact you don't see how important this stuff really is, just like the majority of the public, is the biggest underlying problem we face today. It's the reason we keep living life day by day with such things like war, poverty, famine, genocide, and on most levels even murder, theft and rape so common within society.

You sir, need to wake the fuck up.

haha how big is your head gonna get before it pops, its on thing to state how you feel, but you act like your so much better and more knowing then everyone else, worry about yourself then, your just as bad as the people trying to put their religions on some one else :roll: :lol:



haha im done, unsubscribed
 
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