Ecstasy: Must-Experience Before You Die
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The Wookie
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i ate orange buddhas at TAO 07. those were the best buddhas i ate and such haha
The Wookie
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hey im tryin to start a thread in Toke'n'Talk for people going to Nocturnal this year. Check it out and holler if your going. I feel like this thread got off topic and im not trying to sidetrack it anymore from what it was ment to be.
ndangerspecimen101
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Where is Toke n' Talk located?
I am very interested in sceletium now... it sounds very cellestial! A mood booster and a possible smart drug for that very essential purpose.
I am very interested in sceletium now... it sounds very cellestial! A mood booster and a possible smart drug for that very essential purpose.
ndangerspecimen101
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I have been reading alot about sceletium and nootropics... very, very interesting products!
In my opinion its not a good mixture ANC. Mdma alone is neurotoxic at some levels especially if not in conjunction with antioxidants such as alpha lopoic acid, vitamin C & E. Mesembrine the main chemical contained in Kanna acts on two main nuerotransmitters dopamine and serontonin receptors as while as noradrenaline sites. It is best described as a mood-elevating supplement that provides a calming, tactile, and euphoric state at higher doses. The actions in themselves are very similar to mdma in the way that in smaller doses mdma provides a calm, sedative state. At higher doses it can be somewhat stimulating with a very euphoric taste. Both in combination can be more neurotoxic as it can potentiate domanergic actions, which may explain the reason why its such a good synergistic/potentiator of mdma. You say afterwards, the comedown or the following days after you feel a bit bummed out more than usual than a standard dose of ecstasy. That may be the reason why... because of oxidative stress! I am still debating whether or not I should mix the too... its a great catalyst! But if I do then their is no option to balance out all the free radicals and supplement with high dose antioxidants before, during, and after the roll to eliminate much of the stress. One of its key effects is to treat or diminish the effects of anxiety.... would it be a great tool to use after a mdma dose? This is one big debate and I am willing to give it a try... their is very little information on scelectium... and its benefits seem to outweigh the negative reactions compared to pharmaceutical serontonin-uptake inhibitors. Its indigigenious and practical... I might just order it.
ANC, do you have any remarkable feedback on this matter?
In my opinion its not a good mixture ANC. Mdma alone is neurotoxic at some levels especially if not in conjunction with antioxidants such as alpha lopoic acid, vitamin C & E. Mesembrine the main chemical contained in Kanna acts on two main nuerotransmitters dopamine and serontonin receptors as while as noradrenaline sites. It is best described as a mood-elevating supplement that provides a calming, tactile, and euphoric state at higher doses. The actions in themselves are very similar to mdma in the way that in smaller doses mdma provides a calm, sedative state. At higher doses it can be somewhat stimulating with a very euphoric taste. Both in combination can be more neurotoxic as it can potentiate domanergic actions, which may explain the reason why its such a good synergistic/potentiator of mdma. You say afterwards, the comedown or the following days after you feel a bit bummed out more than usual than a standard dose of ecstasy. That may be the reason why... because of oxidative stress! I am still debating whether or not I should mix the too... its a great catalyst! But if I do then their is no option to balance out all the free radicals and supplement with high dose antioxidants before, during, and after the roll to eliminate much of the stress. One of its key effects is to treat or diminish the effects of anxiety.... would it be a great tool to use after a mdma dose? This is one big debate and I am willing to give it a try... their is very little information on scelectium... and its benefits seem to outweigh the negative reactions compared to pharmaceutical serontonin-uptake inhibitors. Its indigigenious and practical... I might just order it.
ANC, do you have any remarkable feedback on this matter?
ANC
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Hi, well the bad comedown, is more a matter of hours than days.
You will just feel very disagreeable, and nothing will make you smile, its not like a big depro or anything though.
Sceletium has quite a range of effects, depending on the dosage, but its completely diffirent (to me) from what E is like, its a more natural energy, i.e. you just don;t get tired, rather than haveing excess energy.
My favourite way of takeing it is the sceletium alcohol extract mixed into honey, tastes like heaven.
You will just feel very disagreeable, and nothing will make you smile, its not like a big depro or anything though.
Sceletium has quite a range of effects, depending on the dosage, but its completely diffirent (to me) from what E is like, its a more natural energy, i.e. you just don;t get tired, rather than haveing excess energy.
My favourite way of takeing it is the sceletium alcohol extract mixed into honey, tastes like heaven.
doitinthewoods
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I've done it twice, and I think it's a waste of money. You really never know what's in it. I had pure MDA in a capsule and I still think it's a waste of time and money, and completely overrated.
http://www.ecstasydata.org/
http://www.ecstasydata.org/
ndangerspecimen101
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What do you consider the be strongest route of administration?
...and I never said anything about depression... depression is a term that is mis-categorized alot by society today. Its not a state of mind... its the function of the mind that causes depression. Anywho, the alcohol extraction method, explain more about that?
...and I never said anything about depression... depression is a term that is mis-categorized alot by society today. Its not a state of mind... its the function of the mind that causes depression. Anywho, the alcohol extraction method, explain more about that?
doitinthewoods
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If it's a "function of the mind" and that function was causing you to be depressed,..wouldn't that be a "depressed state of mind" ? Being, you know, that your mind is in that particular state? Just curious..haha
ndangerspecimen101
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Doinitwoods... I think your in the wrong neck of the woods... I had it twice... had what twice? I had mda in a capsule... hmmm... did you test it to make sure it was mda in fact?
Second... why did you send me to ecstasydata.org...
You know whats in a pill by testing it... and getting the stuff from reliable sources... such as close friends, not strangers!
Second... why did you send me to ecstasydata.org...
You know whats in a pill by testing it... and getting the stuff from reliable sources... such as close friends, not strangers!
doitinthewoods
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That was clever. You still didn't clarify about the state of mind thing. Thanks. I think I meant to send you to dancesafe.org where they do chemical analysis of all the pills they find; most of which are full of bullshit fillers.
I've tried ecstacy twice. Of course in a perfect world where everyone buys drugs from people they know, you would be right. But here on earth most people don't know what they're buying. I posted the link so people know what they're putting in their bodies.
..and I didn't send YOU anywhere. That link was posted towards the topic. I quoted your failed attempt at a witticism, that's all.
ndangerspecimen101
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This is no perfect world... so you must have your head out of you ass and choose wisely who you buy from and where... its not the best idea to purchase ecstasy at raves anymore since most pills are adulterated... maybe five yrs ago when pills were more pure. Second its always best to have a test kit around or get familarized with rolls on pillreports or dancesafe.
To clear up things DOITINTHEWOODS... a state of mind are certain category or phases that your mood goes through when you experience a certain experience... it either rejects its, accepts it, or adopts it! Its like the casual blues you get but this is not anywhere near the medical definition of depression... just a state of mind... a function of mind... is something beyond or control and has nothing to do with outside influences that you encounter. I think it would be pretty clear, but I hope this summarizes it for you. If not I am willing to explain in lengthier terms!
To clear up things DOITINTHEWOODS... a state of mind are certain category or phases that your mood goes through when you experience a certain experience... it either rejects its, accepts it, or adopts it! Its like the casual blues you get but this is not anywhere near the medical definition of depression... just a state of mind... a function of mind... is something beyond or control and has nothing to do with outside influences that you encounter. I think it would be pretty clear, but I hope this summarizes it for you. If not I am willing to explain in lengthier terms!
doitinthewoods
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ok man. sure.
Party Muscle
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Great stuff... I used to do it along with "K" three times a week while partying in NYC back in my twenties. Did it for at least 3 to 4 years straight... Didn't affect my career or my health (as far as I know)...Go to NY every year for a major physical and full body scan and always get a clean bill of health. Now I just stick with weed but would definitely consider "rollin" one more time...
ndangerspecimen101
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Many people say that the mdma and a mixture of ketamine is probably the most enjoyable mix without going too psychedelic such as hippy-flipping or candy-flipping! You say you played around the the two sorts for a few yrs... how often would you embellish...once a week, once a month, how often?
FortuneLight
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Link to the thread? I'm going to Nocturnal and looking to increase my network
. Can't wait.btw, yellow mcdonalds and red mickeys? Never seen those.Had my first pokeball at EDC, should've gotten the guy's number haha