Aussie Growers Thread
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XxNinjaxX
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You are indeed correct Jats - Male produce little to No Resin, but it does produce other cannabanoids, which means u can use it with the rest of it fan leaves 4 Canna Butter
Thanks for that jats! I actually remember reading you saying that before. Your info helped me find the following post which sumarises the contents of the most accurate sounding posts;
Hi everyone. This is a touchy subject lol. It really comes down to the definition of a landrace, and quite honestly, its hard to say there to many places and lines that qualify as a landrace. I would call what we have here in australia , "australian Varieties".
One thing also that alot of pll forget or dont realise is that our genepool here in oz also has chinese indica genetics in it, and a fair whack of it too.
Lets take a real basic look at it.
First known cannabis into australia comes with european settlers, lets say 150 -200 years ago. As stated above the likely source of the genetics was india, and was known to be pyscoactive aswell as fibrous.
There is our base of genetics, no doubt crops of it got left to go wild, and survived.
The next genetic influence is the chinese indica brought over by imigrent workers( as well as some great vegetable varieties that are still here today aswell). The culture amongst these workers was to throw any extra seed into rivers, seed would be washed up on banks down river with an excelent silt layer of soil, hence our river side wild stands of cannabis, although mostly chinese indica genetics( thin bladed tall indicas, i know its againgst all the norm but its an indica still). My family on my fathers side lived in the exact area of some of said wild river side ppulations in the hunter valley, between raymond terrace and maitland, so i have extremely relaible info on them and their existance, till they where eradicated in the 60s.
Around the same time we also had afghan camel traders here aswell, as stated above by don, who brought more taller , longer flowering indica genetics from afghanistan, not the mountain regions containing most of the kush building blocks.
We also had genetics trickling down from south east asia, but it wasnt untill surfers from australia started to bring back south east asian seed and eventualy imported herbs, that the south east asian genetics hit our shores with a vengence, and merged into the already diverse genepool here.
Once the surfers pioneered the off the beaten tracks, the hippies of the 60s then took up the torch, and start at first bringing south east asian genetics into autralia, but ended up bringing things back from all the old school hippie trails around the world.
From about the 80s on the dutch genetics started to come into australia, and alot of dutch indica in the late 80s, that was dubbed by the old timers as " short termers".
Everyone marveled at the new fast maturing varieties, 8-10 week flowering was almost unheard of here. All the indica we did have here was either longer flowering varieties, or had been very quickly hybridized with the local genepool due to the low yield obtained with them in our enviroment.
Thats just my opinion obviously on the basic structure and time line of our wonderful genepool here in oz.
The major prob with our genepool is there is still alot of rope and garbage amongst it, and the herm issues that have been bred int the genepool unconiously by most growers back then, i call it the sly herm trait, and its amongst alot of the native genepool here, as the genepool has been as pointed out, mostly maintained by man and not nature.
Growers here for the most part never used to grow a seperate crop for next years seed, what they did was just collect the seeds from their best plants that just seemed to magicaly appear every year. Back then most bud had a few seeds, not many, but a few. This was due to the fact that even though the pulled their males, at least one of their fems would always throw a few sly , hard to detect nannas, lightly pollenating the crop. So by using the seed derived essentialy of this trait, they have perpetuated it, almost ingrained into some parts of the genepool. Granted it doesnt happen to much now, but back then it was he norm for a long long time.
On the zoid subject, no it could not be classified a landrace, but it has certainly be bred of australian native genetics, sourced from oldschool growers old stocks up and down the east coast.
I will post more on the subject when i have abit more time
much respect
moonunit
That was from international cannagraphic
Hi everyone. This is a touchy subject lol. It really comes down to the definition of a landrace, and quite honestly, its hard to say there to many places and lines that qualify as a landrace. I would call what we have here in australia , "australian Varieties".
One thing also that alot of pll forget or dont realise is that our genepool here in oz also has chinese indica genetics in it, and a fair whack of it too.
Lets take a real basic look at it.
First known cannabis into australia comes with european settlers, lets say 150 -200 years ago. As stated above the likely source of the genetics was india, and was known to be pyscoactive aswell as fibrous.
There is our base of genetics, no doubt crops of it got left to go wild, and survived.
The next genetic influence is the chinese indica brought over by imigrent workers( as well as some great vegetable varieties that are still here today aswell). The culture amongst these workers was to throw any extra seed into rivers, seed would be washed up on banks down river with an excelent silt layer of soil, hence our river side wild stands of cannabis, although mostly chinese indica genetics( thin bladed tall indicas, i know its againgst all the norm but its an indica still). My family on my fathers side lived in the exact area of some of said wild river side ppulations in the hunter valley, between raymond terrace and maitland, so i have extremely relaible info on them and their existance, till they where eradicated in the 60s.
Around the same time we also had afghan camel traders here aswell, as stated above by don, who brought more taller , longer flowering indica genetics from afghanistan, not the mountain regions containing most of the kush building blocks.
We also had genetics trickling down from south east asia, but it wasnt untill surfers from australia started to bring back south east asian seed and eventualy imported herbs, that the south east asian genetics hit our shores with a vengence, and merged into the already diverse genepool here.
Once the surfers pioneered the off the beaten tracks, the hippies of the 60s then took up the torch, and start at first bringing south east asian genetics into autralia, but ended up bringing things back from all the old school hippie trails around the world.
From about the 80s on the dutch genetics started to come into australia, and alot of dutch indica in the late 80s, that was dubbed by the old timers as " short termers".
Everyone marveled at the new fast maturing varieties, 8-10 week flowering was almost unheard of here. All the indica we did have here was either longer flowering varieties, or had been very quickly hybridized with the local genepool due to the low yield obtained with them in our enviroment.
Thats just my opinion obviously on the basic structure and time line of our wonderful genepool here in oz.
The major prob with our genepool is there is still alot of rope and garbage amongst it, and the herm issues that have been bred int the genepool unconiously by most growers back then, i call it the sly herm trait, and its amongst alot of the native genepool here, as the genepool has been as pointed out, mostly maintained by man and not nature.
Growers here for the most part never used to grow a seperate crop for next years seed, what they did was just collect the seeds from their best plants that just seemed to magicaly appear every year. Back then most bud had a few seeds, not many, but a few. This was due to the fact that even though the pulled their males, at least one of their fems would always throw a few sly , hard to detect nannas, lightly pollenating the crop. So by using the seed derived essentialy of this trait, they have perpetuated it, almost ingrained into some parts of the genepool. Granted it doesnt happen to much now, but back then it was he norm for a long long time.
On the zoid subject, no it could not be classified a landrace, but it has certainly be bred of australian native genetics, sourced from oldschool growers old stocks up and down the east coast.
I will post more on the subject when i have abit more time
much respect
moonunit
That was from international cannagraphic
kmoo
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yeah it's pretty harsh of someone to give you a clone of a dude, unless it's a hermie, which is still uncool lol uncool or misguided.
i have trouble killing them myself, i have a time out corner for boys which is right up the corner of the house but unless you are going to make butter i really would get rid of it, pollen is super persistent lol and by quickly i didn't mean rush rush they're about to blow, i meant a quick death, ha
i have trouble killing them myself, i have a time out corner for boys which is right up the corner of the house but unless you are going to make butter i really would get rid of it, pollen is super persistent lol and by quickly i didn't mean rush rush they're about to blow, i meant a quick death, ha
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CaveChest
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So Males don't contain resin eh?
BUT could i still make hash using the Metho Method? (this is assuming i get a male, which is highly likely with my luck)
MethoD (i'll call it) is where you put all the plant cuttings into a jar of metho, shake the hell out of it for 2 mins then let the metho evaporate and it leaves hash.
But you say with males this wont work eh?
then all the more reason to hope for female.
I'm gonna start veging my lil bro on Tuesday (Melbourne cup baby!) and will post pics of it for all.
PEace
J
BUT could i still make hash using the Metho Method? (this is assuming i get a male, which is highly likely with my luck)
MethoD (i'll call it) is where you put all the plant cuttings into a jar of metho, shake the hell out of it for 2 mins then let the metho evaporate and it leaves hash.
But you say with males this wont work eh?
then all the more reason to hope for female.
I'm gonna start veging my lil bro on Tuesday (Melbourne cup baby!) and will post pics of it for all.
PEace
J
kmoo
Well-Known Member
oh cave i totally forgot to say i didn't know what bdo was, but then i assumed big day out lol i've been ruined by big festivals over in eng and eire
WHOOOOOOO i'm bored lol i just bought the BEST cheese at the farmers market, moon bay, or blue bay? the letter b is definitely involved
WHOOOOOOO i'm bored lol i just bought the BEST cheese at the farmers market, moon bay, or blue bay? the letter b is definitely involved
The Cat
Member
LOL let me guess, theres no T in it??? im just down the road across from the footy stadium.
XxNinjaxX
Well-Known Member
Na man, they banned incandescant bulbs (the 1s u put in the light fixtures in ur house wen ur not using CFLs).
jzs147
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just thought id ask
DarkCursade
Active Member
Nah noboday gave me a male clone, but that is a funny cruel trick to play on someob0dy u hate I guess, I started out with 2 random seeds, and i cut clones then sexed them as soon as i could, i ended up 1 male 1 female so ima happy......Ps I just put him in a plastic bag and threw him in the bin, I also took his 5 clone vegin brothers and did the same.
hahaha I felt bad but what to do.
