Your Grandfather
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Hmmmmm. Maybe, I should germinate some more, just in case something goes wrong.
Not like I don't have a life time supply of these seeds.
Not like I don't have a life time supply of these seeds.
Been a Long Time Coming ~ Been a long Time Gone
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Your Grandfather
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What a great read, plus food for thought.
If I read this correctly, in the morning and evening there are more red spectrum_makes sense_so, maybe a 2nd timer controlling some warmer_something way less than 6.5k, more like 3,000~4,000 kelvin, which would turn on the warm lights for a few hours in the morning and a few hours at night, to more naturally represent the daily light spectrum.
The read is here - Marijuana THC
Maximum respect to: Master Mioda for posting the original link. Jah Rastafar I
If I read this correctly, in the morning and evening there are more red spectrum_makes sense_so, maybe a 2nd timer controlling some warmer_something way less than 6.5k, more like 3,000~4,000 kelvin, which would turn on the warm lights for a few hours in the morning and a few hours at night, to more naturally represent the daily light spectrum.
The read is here - Marijuana THC
Maximum respect to: Master Mioda for posting the original link. Jah Rastafar I
mastakoosh
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sounds like a good idea.
Your Grandfather
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Well, I don't have to post any pictures to confirm my worst fears. Frigging nute burn! I can see_with help of magnifying glass_the very ends of the new growth are burnt and it is not from the lights.
So, I gave each and every plant a 3x dose of water for a flush. I'm thinking that if I don't see improvement in the next 48 hours
Might be a smart idea to start germinating some more seeds. Gowl Dangit.
Worse thing that can happen is that I have to start over. Not kewl but - it is, what it is.
So, I gave each and every plant a 3x dose of water for a flush. I'm thinking that if I don't see improvement in the next 48 hours
Might be a smart idea to start germinating some more seeds. Gowl Dangit.
Worse thing that can happen is that I have to start over. Not kewl but - it is, what it is.
Your Grandfather
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Back at you GF 
New growth looks better. Either I'm high_quite possible_or there is a slight change of the worst of the yellow leaves. I believe there is a bit more green around their veins.
Moisture meter is around #7. So, I'm gonna hold off on water or a bit and see what develops.
Pictures anyone?
New growth looks better. Either I'm high_quite possible_or there is a slight change of the worst of the yellow leaves. I believe there is a bit more green around their veins.
Moisture meter is around #7. So, I'm gonna hold off on water or a bit and see what develops.
Pictures anyone?
mastakoosh
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yes...pics. we like pics.
Your Grandfather
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Well here is the good, the bad and the ugly. Worms haven't vacated the pots, so they are still in there, doing something_I hope.
Thinking about starting a CO2 thingy so the plants have something to do rather than just soak up the light.
Comments?
Thinking about starting a CO2 thingy so the plants have something to do rather than just soak up the light.
Comments?
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Today is far better than yesterday. Appears the plants are responding, I've got new growth on all of them and superior growth on a few.
Secondary growth is showing at the nodes of 1st two bracts. This growth will be the clone feedstock. So, I'm quite encouraged with the progress.
The stems are really quite stout and strong. Unusually so for this point in time.
I'll try and post pictures later.
Secondary growth is showing at the nodes of 1st two bracts. This growth will be the clone feedstock. So, I'm quite encouraged with the progress.
The stems are really quite stout and strong. Unusually so for this point in time.
I'll try and post pictures later.
HotNSexyMILF
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Good luck with your grow, everything looks good so far.
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"Originally Posted this on Tahoe58's grow"
I am working on a supplemental timer/variable dimming CFL lights to simulate the reds of AM and then PM, just makes sense to me. The sky does not go from night to bright daylight_at the flip of a switch.
So, in theory I'd like the 3k cfl's to come on gradually, be supplemented by the 6.5k cfl's and then turn off until "evening" when the process would happen again but only in reverse.
Had a few more puffs of the good nug and have a pretty clear idea of how it can be done. Must call friend tomorrow, but I'm pretty sure it is do-able.
More pictures tomorrow. Jah Rastafar I
I am working on a supplemental timer/variable dimming CFL lights to simulate the reds of AM and then PM, just makes sense to me. The sky does not go from night to bright daylight_at the flip of a switch.
So, in theory I'd like the 3k cfl's to come on gradually, be supplemented by the 6.5k cfl's and then turn off until "evening" when the process would happen again but only in reverse.
Had a few more puffs of the good nug and have a pretty clear idea of how it can be done. Must call friend tomorrow, but I'm pretty sure it is do-able.
More pictures tomorrow. Jah Rastafar I
Your Grandfather
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Yeah I'm aware of the non-dimmer CFL's but there ARE new cfl's which do not have that dimmer restriction, and are of the lower kelvin flavor (more reds) approx 3,000°K, rather than the 6~7,000°K which is closer to bright sunlight.
The initial problem I had was the timer, but, alas my fertile mind struck upon the idea of what bachelor pads use to set the mood lighting. Not like I would know.
But, as I understand it, the 'mood lights come on and then progressively_predicated on the programming by the user_fade to black, or anything else the controller is capable of. Well, if this is true, then, let the romance begin.
Just got to call of few of the mood lighting people in SoCal tomorrow. If I knew what key words to google, I'd save the phone calls.
Thanks for the encouragement guys. When you live on the edge, it is hard sometimes to separate edge from non-edge and your touchstone helps bunches.
The initial problem I had was the timer, but, alas my fertile mind struck upon the idea of what bachelor pads use to set the mood lighting. Not like I would know.
But, as I understand it, the 'mood lights come on and then progressively_predicated on the programming by the user_fade to black, or anything else the controller is capable of. Well, if this is true, then, let the romance begin.
Just got to call of few of the mood lighting people in SoCal tomorrow. If I knew what key words to google, I'd save the phone calls.
Thanks for the encouragement guys
. When you live on the edge, it is hard sometimes to separate edge from non-edge and your touchstone helps bunches.
tahoe58
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ur posts are so cool....like the pic, the name, the tone and the sense of humour....I have to meet you in person....you have many stories to tell I'm sure. Very interesting stuff. I'll be following this....ciao! 
Yeah I'm aware of the non-dimmer CFL's but there ARE new cfl's which do not have that dimmer restriction, and are of the lower kelvin flavor (more reds) approx 3,000°K, rather than the 6~7,000°K which is closer to bright sunlight.
The initial problem I had was the timer, but, alas my fertile mind struck upon the idea of what bachelor pads use to set the mood lighting. Not like I would know.
But, as I understand it, the 'mood lights come on and then progressively_predicated on the programming by the user_fade to black, or anything else the controller is capable of. Well, if this is true, then, let the romance begin.
Just got to call of few of the mood lighting people in SoCal tomorrow. If I knew what key words to google, I'd save the phone calls.
Thanks for the encouragement guys
Your Grandfather
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I'm doing a lot of thinking about wavelengths, filters, propagation of light, lumens per square foot, CFL's, reflective surfaces, soil & nutes and how they all kinda come together in a grow space and either play nice or not.
All of this was brought about by the ongoing controversy of CFL's vs conventional thinking. I respect the conventionalist and can not argue with their success, but the future was never found in the past.
Maybe the answer is just as simple as genetics_there was a fellow named Darwin once_also a guy named Achem (who had a razor) If the answer is genetics, then it is just a matter of breeding, Ja? V vill hav das gute zeeds, ja, und it vill vork vunderbar mit das cfl's licht bulben.
I dunno, I'm just thinking aloud. Or is that 'Thinking allowed'
Peace
All of this was brought about by the ongoing controversy of CFL's vs conventional thinking. I respect the conventionalist and can not argue with their success, but the future was never found in the past.
Maybe the answer is just as simple as genetics_there was a fellow named Darwin once_also a guy named Achem (who had a razor)
If the answer is genetics, then it is just a matter of breeding, Ja? V vill hav das gute zeeds, ja, und it vill vork vunderbar mit das cfl's licht bulben.I dunno, I'm just thinking aloud. Or is that 'Thinking allowed'
Peace
tahoe58
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you gave me my chuckle for the morn...hahahahaha.......I do believe thinking is allowed.....but there may be restriction for such behaviour a'loud. the whole debate on CFL and others makes me laugh. I know I know nothing - so I sit and listen (sometimes a'loud). I expect there are significant measureable differences in the properties of light from the different sources and their influence over growth - I like ur thought about the genetics - that might well be so. And possibly the original drivers to use CFLs - have been amended - we each approach this with our own spin on things, we take what we learn and discard what we want to, knowing full well there are likely consequences of doing so - maybe positive and maybe negative - but always only from the perspective of oneself and one's own goals and priorities. not measured against anyone else's agenda. all the best to you in your travel down that road to a better understanding.....
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In order to entice you to read the rants, I'll post some eye candy - Pictures.
Long ago and far away in a strange land, where there was no internet, no cell phones, not even pagers, there was, however, dope smokers and dope growers.
In those days the struggle was how does a person successfully grow the magic herb outdoors much less indoors. The best thinking of the day was to find a seed strain which was environmentally similar to where you were. Meaning if the seeds came from Panama_tropical area_it would be silly to try and grow them in Minnesota_frozen tundra.
It was from these conversations and resultant efforts that strains like Northern Lights, the Cali strains all came about.
So, this rant is about the challenges we face today in developing a strain of genetics tied to cfl's. Why you ask? Because we know HPS, HID etc, while excellent and are the choice of professionals are soooo last century, and I don't want to live in the past.
/Rant Off
Enjoy the eye candy
Long ago and far away in a strange land, where there was no internet, no cell phones, not even pagers, there was, however, dope smokers and dope growers.
In those days the struggle was how does a person successfully grow the magic herb outdoors much less indoors. The best thinking of the day was to find a seed strain which was environmentally similar to where you were. Meaning if the seeds came from Panama_tropical area_it would be silly to try and grow them in Minnesota_frozen tundra.
It was from these conversations and resultant efforts that strains like Northern Lights, the Cali strains all came about.
So, this rant is about the challenges we face today in developing a strain of genetics tied to cfl's. Why you ask? Because we know HPS, HID etc, while excellent and are the choice of professionals are soooo last century, and I don't want to live in the past.
/Rant Off
Enjoy the eye candy
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Your Grandfather
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Lookie what I got
Still working on timer
Still working on timer
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mastakoosh
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the bat guano looks like it will do the trick nicely. i used fish fert, and man did that stuff smell great j/k. i like the way you think outside the box. you are pushin the limits of conventional thinking, and that as you would say is kewl. i will stay tuned.Lookie what I got
Still working on timer
Your Grandfather
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Went to the printers favorite place today. The paper store. Stumbled around for a bit and then, eureka
Xerox brand, 11 x 17 inches, super gloss_whohoooo_ 98 bright, Coated on one side. What is it coated with you say? Good question - some type of non-petroleum VU_getting interesting with that symbol_coating which has a friggin blue cast to it. Yep, a blue cast.
Time for a few bong hits.
So, why all the excitement? Well because #1 it has this blue cast_when the 6,500k light hits the super gloss reflective surface, the blue cast, will act as a filter and remove, a percentage of the blue light. I dunno what percentage, but I do know it will remove a percentage.
Only one way to find out - put it to the test! So, I'm gonna build another box_3 cubic feet_and do everything the same except the reflective surface is a gloss with blue cast. If the experiment proves successful, I guess we name the new strain "Coated 1 side". kewl?
Eye Candy tomorrow of the new and improved model
Xerox brand, 11 x 17 inches, super gloss_whohoooo_ 98 bright, Coated on one side. What is it coated with you say? Good question - some type of non-petroleum VU_getting interesting with that symbol_coating which has a friggin blue cast to it. Yep, a blue cast.
Time for a few bong hits.
So, why all the excitement? Well because #1 it has this blue cast_when the 6,500k light hits the super gloss reflective surface, the blue cast, will act as a filter and remove, a percentage of the blue light. I dunno what percentage, but I do know it will remove a percentage.
Only one way to find out - put it to the test! So, I'm gonna build another box_3 cubic feet_and do everything the same except the reflective surface is a gloss with blue cast. If the experiment proves successful, I guess we name the new strain "Coated 1 side". kewl?
Eye Candy tomorrow of the new and improved model