Been a Long Time Coming ~ Been a long Time Gone

[Your Grandfather]

thats tight. whats in the bottle in the corner?

Yeah, it's kinda tight right now, but as they continue to grow, I'll continue to provide more space.

Actually, I plan on refurbishing, the previous Condo they were in with new wallpaper Think I'm going to use some of this blue cast stuff, but I'm waiting to see what the results are.

Bottle is CO2_yeast/sugar. Seems to work well.

Thanks for your comment

 

[skunkushybrid]

Yes... a lovely looking female.

I'm guessing a bit of home-made co2 in the bottle?

 

[butter111]

has anyone ever measures the yeast sugar method with a co2 monitor? if so how well does it work? i have bottled co2 but dont have a monitor just using the co2 calculator for now

 

[Your Grandfather]

Yes... a lovely looking female.

I'm guessing a bit of home-made co2 in the bottle?

LOL, of course it's a homemade co2, someone has to experiment.

If you remember, this plant was a) the biggest one_which I had already decided was a male because of the growth; b) came from a pair of Mendocino seeds.

Now I'm beginning to wonder about new nute solutions. Damn this never ends. I love it.

 

[Your Grandfather]

has anyone ever measures the yeast sugar method with a co2 monitor? if so how well does it work? i have bottled co2 but dont have a monitor just using the co2 calculator for now

Yeah, that would be some really good info. I don't have a monitor_wonder what they cost.

In any case, my feeling is, that no matter how slight, any additional co2 is 'more better'.

I'm sure the co2 tank and regulator does a fantastic job, but I'm trying to engineer/build a system that anyone can do, without a ton of $$, and achieve results which most people would not believe.

That is the reward. This is the journey

 

[butter111]

good fer u that sounds like a noble mission keep it up till i see my kid using your method

 

[Your Grandfather]

good fer u that sounds like a noble mission keep it up till i see my kid using your method

Thanks Brother I appreciate the support.

I do remember, however, when there weren't indoor grows_well, there was, kinda. But the yields were terrible, the weed certainly wasn't as good as outdoor weed, and all that other stuff which was said.

So now, it is 40 years later and....The established people will tell you only HPS, MH and such. How, if you want to have the big ice cream cone in the sky, you can't use CFL's and so forth.

Well, maybe they are right, but maybe they are living in the last century. Only one way to find out what is over the edge. Jump

 

[robbie82]

Thanks for the PM! Love reading these journals, and your plants look great Im Jealous....best of look Im gonna be following!

 

[LoveIt]

i just began to wonder what the atmospheric co2 levels would have been in prehistoric times, when cannabis was first evolving. i didn't find a ppm figure yet, but here is an excerpt from something i found at the following link... Global Warming: Plants CO2

it's pretty interesting, especially tied in with the whole global warming issue.

There's no doubt that carbon dioxide levels now are higher in our
atmosphere now than in the recent past. Atmospheric levels of carbon dioxide appear have risen from 272 parts per million (ppm) from 1700 A.D., as postulated from ice cores, to 348 ppm in 1998.

This is proportional to the increase in world population, from 0.5 billion in 1770 to 5.1 billion in 1998. This rise in carbon dioxide is due partly to accelerated human activity, but also comes from natural sources. More recently, carbon dioxide levels have risen from 300 ppm to 360 ppm in this century.


Due probably to volcanic and oceanic releases, CO2 concentrations in distant prehistoric eras were vastly higher than today's levels. These include the great carboniferous periods -- some 250 million to 365 million years ago -- when lush forests absorbed the CO2 from the air, and fixed the carbon in their biomass, later to be recycled in our era as coal and petroleum.

 

[skunkushybrid]

The thing is, much like we were in all likelyhood a small crab (for example) while the dinosaurs were roaming the earth. We can't tell whether cannabis was a shrub or a tree. I suspect though that if it were a giant tree, then it would have to shrink in size to survive... lol, imagine that, seeds as big as your head.

Anyway, I'd say that cannabis wasn't much of anything back then... could've even been a spot of moss that just happens to get shat on with the right mix of chemicals... anything is possible.

Then again there are examples of animals that have shrunk as evolution took greater hold. sharks, for example... their dinosaur ancestors were much larger.

 

[tahoe58]

yea Skunk...that follows for many mnay species....not sure of the plant world....but I'm gonna look that up tonight....

 

[bongspit]

how big is hole in the cap in your co2 deal?

 

[tahoe58]

in my case...its about 1-2mm - rather minute.

 

[bongspit]

in my case...its about 1-2mm - rather minute.

his bottle looks like a gatorade bottle? a bigger container would be better maybe?

 

[Your Grandfather]

I used a 3/8" drill. Yes, it is a gatorade bottle_still waiting for diet gatorade (which IMHO is silly, let's have a energy drink with sooo much HFCS High Fructose Corn Syrup that we need a diet version.

In one month, I've had to recharge the bottle 1 time, due probably to my stupidity. I added baking soda_not smart.

Right now, I take a teaspoon of sugar and add it to about 1" of warm water in the gatorade bottle. When the sugar has dissolved_if you can't make the sugar dissolve, add a small bit of warm water. Then I add 1/8 teaspoon of active yeast_I don't refrigerate the yeast after opening, contrary to instruction on package.

I give it a shake in the AM, and then throughout the day, I keep an eye on the bottle. As long as there are bubbles forming and breaking there is co2 being produced_I don't know the levels. If no bubbles, give it a shake. When the bubbles eventually stop, I first add a small amount of sugar to see if that will start the fermentation process again. If not, then add a bit of yeast.

Hope this helped.

 

[bongspit]

I used a 3/8" drill. Yes, it is a gatorade bottle_still waiting for diet gatorade (which IMHO is silly, let's have a energy drink with sooo much HFCS High Fructose Corn Syrup that we need a diet version.

In one month, I've had to recharge the bottle 1 time, due probably to my stupidity. I added baking soda_not smart.

Right now, I take a teaspoon of sugar and add it to about 1" of warm water in the gatorade bottle. When the sugar has dissolved_if you can't make the sugar dissolve, add a small bit of warm water. Then I add 1/8 teaspoon of active yeast_I don't refrigerate the yeast after opening, contrary to instruction on package.

I give it a shake in the AM, and then throughout the day, I keep an eye on the bottle. As long as there are bubbles forming and breaking there is co2 being produced_I don't know the levels. If no bubbles, give it a shake. When the bubbles eventually stop, I first add a small amount of sugar to see if that will start the fermentation process again. If not, then add a bit of yeast.

Hope this helped.

cool I will give it a try...thanks

 

[Your Grandfather]

Well, another day, brings new results.

If you remember, I did the walls of the girls new condo in white with a blue cast_actually it is Xerox paper and you can see the spec's ^thread.

The amount of growth of the plants since being exposed to the gloss with blue cast has been nothing short of amazing. Simply amazing.

Had you asked me 24 hours ago, how long the new Condo would last, I would have said, I have a bit of time. Well, this AM it is apparent to me that either: a) I immediately start construction of a bigger facility_which I really do not want to do; b) think about culling the plants down_don't want to do that either; c) foster home.

I'm going to compare the present size to the last data I gathered_Saturday. Either this wake & bake has really got me so high I'm hallucinating or my theory is proving correct. It's probably the weed

 

[skunkushybrid]

The more I've been reading lately, the more I think you'll succeed with this venture. I doubt that it'll happen in the first seed batch but who knows the adaptability potential of cannabis?

It seems that red light may actually be unfavourable to thc producing cannabis, or rather cannabis producing thc... lol

Studies carried out in the seventies were onto this already. Tahoe gave me this link, you may find it interesting... Chemical ecology of Cannabis

It's almost dinner for me, and I haven't had time to really check it over. but I did notice some interesting points.

 

[skunkushybrid]

I also read somewhere that NL responds well to fluoro growth.

 

[Your Grandfather]

I also read somewhere that NL responds well to fluoro growth.

I've been around more than 3 score now, and have smoked pretty much every day since the '60's.

That said, I am totally, absolutely 100% convinced, that with a bit of understanding, a bucket full of persistence and a splash of invent-tivity this can be done, and in a few short years, the 'Brute Force Approach"_which is what I call the present indoor grow technology_will be what it really is. The past.

There were those who totally believed the world was flat_some still do, they live in Kansas & Oklahoma.