DoeEyed's Perpetual Grow Log

[speedyseedz]

Alright, so a couple two or thee CFL's for the cloner then? Not the entire 12 bulb rack, right?

you have pretty plants, the only two i think are troubled are the 2 in the buckets of perlite.

I'm not going to dignify it as a growing method, because its just a bucket of perlite, Hey I just created a new grow method too, its called speedy buckets, but you mix perlite and vermiculite and use two holes.

 

[laceygirl]

Wow Doe, are you just using straight perlite? In my hempy buckets I use Vermiculite and perlite, it makes water retention a lot better, trust me... I only water my mothers once a day now due to the water holding capabilities of vermiculite...

Laceygirl...

 

[ReelFiles]

Don't use more than a couple of CFL. you wanna give them just enough light to support them. Without roots clones can't absorb enough water fast enough to be able to handle a lot of light. I've grown clones on window sills not even facing the sun.

 

[riddleme]

I use 1, 13 watt cfl (6500K) a foot away and clone in wet sand

Pic is one I cut last Sat.

 

[DoeEyed]

you have pretty plants, the only two i think are troubled are the 2 in the buckets of perlite.

I'm not going to dignify it as a growing method, because its just a bucket of perlite, Hey I just created a new grow method too, its called speedy buckets, but you mix perlite and vermiculite and use two holes.

I didn't invent it, speedy, but I did find it worthy of experimenting with. The smaller of those two plants was a twin, that only popped out when the other seedling was about two weeks old. The second plant (which I don't see as "troubled", aside from the light color) was planted 8 days after the rest of that grow.

Wow Doe, are you just using straight perlite? In my hempy buckets I use Vermiculite and perlite, it makes water retention a lot better, trust me... I only water my mothers once a day now due to the water holding capabilities of vermiculite...

Laceygirl...

Yeah Laceygirl, just straight perlite. After reading up on the method, several people that use it suggested it works as well without anything else. I'm definately not having a problem with water retention - if anything, I keep overwatering these two girls - and I'm only doing it once every couple of days.

Don't use more than a couple of CFL. you wanna give them just enough light to support them. Without roots clones can't absorb enough water fast enough to be able to handle a lot of light. I've grown clones on window sills not even facing the sun.

Got it - one or two CFL's will work.

I use 1, 13 watt cfl (6500K) a foot away and clone in wet sand

Pic is one I cut last Sat.

Nice clone. Thanks for the help guys and gals!

 

[Solcyn26]

ive never heard of a clone receiving too much light when it comes to cfls my clone chambr has about 6 cfls in there...3 warm--3 cool..never had a prob cfls are so gentle on the clones...i would go 5-6 cfls mixed spectrum and start the light off as high as the lil chamber will let u go droplights once roots show

 

[Solcyn26]

heres some of my super happy clones.. i have pictures b4 and after of my clone chamber i just gotta find ithem

 

[Solcyn26]

alright my bad here the b4 and after pics of my clone there is a two week timelapse between first two pics..

 

[laceygirl]

ive never heard of a clone receiving too much light when it comes to cfls my clone chambr has about 6 cfls in there...3 warm--3 cool..never had a prob cfls are so gentle on the clones...i would go 5-6 cfls mixed spectrum and start the light off as high as the lil chamber will let u go droplights once roots show

Hi Sol and Doe,

Just for reference for you.. My cloner has a 220watt propagation flouro over my babies, they love it... 4x 55 watt tubes under a reflector... Its the best flouro I have, it provides day light and heat... It was a little on the pricey side though..... But for the results I am very happy, I also have the smaller 2 x 55 watt for my seedling chamber...

Dont be too shy with flouro's...
Laceygirl...

 

[speedyseedz]

Hi Sol and Doe,

Just for reference for you.. My cloner has a 220watt propagation flouro over my babies, they love it... 4x 55 watt tubes under a reflector... Its the best flouro I have, it provides day light and heat... It was a little on the pricey side though..... But for the results I am very happy, I also have the smaller 2 x 55 watt for my seedling chamber...

Dont be too shy with flouro's...
Laceygirl...

loving the pricey lights stacked on the bricks

 

[laceygirl]

loving the pricey lights stacked on the bricks

Well I had the bricks lying around, and they are the most adjustable things around...lol...

We do what we gotta do... The biggest flouro light is hanging from chain in my lil cloner tent... Cutest tent ever...

Nice one Mr Speedyseeds...lol...
Touche...
Laceygirl...

 

[speedyseedz]

Well I had the bricks lying around, and they are the most adjustable things around...lol...

We do what we gotta do... The biggest flouro light is hanging from chain in my lil cloner tent... Cutest tent ever...

Nice one Mr Speedyseeds...lol...
Touche...
Laceygirl...

nice lamp though,

 

[DoeEyed]

Ok, I moved my seedling table over, so the cloner is sharing that CFL rack. Since I'll be doing 9 plants every 2.5 weeks, that should be enough light for both seedlings, and clones. They are pleasantly perky today! Four 27w CFL's over the clones now - about 18" up. If need be I can move my humidifier over to the other side, and share the light rack more evenly. Temp and humidity are staying at a comfortable level - I'll just have to keep an eye on the water temp. If it gets too high, would a frozen 2 liter bottle work to keep it down? I could change it out twice a day. Or would that be too cold?

Had to adjust my timers for DST, so got a couple pics before lights-on. Tough to get shots in the dark! Can't get a decent closeup, because of the low light level it blurrs every time.

 

[laceygirl]

Wow Doe always looks good in your room... So clean too...

I would put your aero cloner up on bricks and get them a little closer to the light... it wont hurt them... It will also keep them a little warmer...

Do you have a water heater in your aerocloner res???

I don't but I know I will need one when our winter hits in about a month... Just interested to hear your thoughts on it...

Laceygirl...

 

[DoeEyed]

Bricks are a great idea, thanks! I'll see what I can find - might have to pick up some on Friday. No, no water heater in there, winter is over now - and the water temp is staying around 74F, for now. But if it gets higher than that, I'll have to cool it, right? Thought I read that at 80F the clones will fail?

 

[laceygirl]

Bricks are a great idea, thanks! I'll see what I can find - might have to pick up some on Friday. No, no water heater in there, winter is over now - and the water temp is staying around 74F, for now. But if it gets higher than that, I'll have to cool it, right? Thought I read that at 80F the clones will fail?

I think thats right... I am using you and stinkbud as my guides... lol

74 is perfect isn't it??

Laceygirl...

 

[DoeEyed]

lol...I think we're learning this at the same time, hehe. 74F is a bit high - I believe you want it closer to 70F, but it's the best I can do at the moment. cruzer just bought a nice chiller - keeps his water temps both cooled and heated - but the thing was around $300 USD, I think. A bit out of my reach at the moment.

 

[DenseBuds]

70-72 is good. The cuttings are a bit on the small side as you said... Usually want to have a couple nodes so the bottom leaves can be used up as it begins to grow roots. But like you said, it's just an experiment! Lookin good overall.

 

[BigSkyBudTHC]

i've been told 78 is perfect so thats what i'm doing. added a water heater cuz my room is only in the 60's and low 70's under the light. warmer water should help them root faster.

 

[Moobyghost]

I use 1, 13 watt cfl (6500K) a foot away and clone in wet sand

Pic is one I cut last Sat.

I have never cloned before, hell this is my first grow. lol. So to clone, you just snip off a section of the plant and "plant" it in wet soil? Roots will grow out of the stem?
Thanks for the info.