No Fucking Jobs Anywhere

[jeff f]

(category 1) 11,000 people in the ranks of the unemployed (meaning out of work through no fault of their own and collecting unemployment insurance)
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(category 2) recent college grads, HS grads, people out of work through no fault of their own that are not collecting UI, people out of work through some fault of their own, discouraged workers re-entering the job market, people entering the job market for the first time for various reasons, people working multiple jobs and so on and so forth

facts are facts. there are about 5 people in category 1 for every available job nationwide. throw in the people in category 2, take into account the hr practice of not hiring the unemployed or overqualified....you see where i am going with this. you simply choose to regard these people as 'suckling off the teet' to fit your own worldview.

while i'm sure this holds true for some, i'm sure the vast majority would prefer the dignity of employment, not to mention the livable wage that comes with it. UI is not a glorious lifestyle, nor is it even 'suckling' as you have to pay into the fund when working and only get it if you are out of work through no fault of your own.

you make a lot of outlandish assumptions. apparently you dont live around many leeches. good for you.

my small northeastern town is being over run with new yorkers seeking low income housing in a low income town. these fuckers wouldnt work if you held a gun to their head. disgusting what is happening.

 

[sguardians2]

By the way, I've heard the same argument from the right since the seventies, about "the welfare state", yet they are willing to spend billions on wars that achieve shit, nothing, nada.

Where is true fiscal responsibility? Why is spending over 700 billion on wars, and don't get it twisted, I served, so much better than spending a few billion on social programs?

What kind of twisted logic is that? And please don't insult my intellegence with that "keeping us free" bullshit, because that's all that is.
How is invading a little crappy country like Iraq or anyplace like that supposed to keep us free?

How about making us truly free, and stopping this bullshit "war on drugs", that's costing billions, and solving nothing.

 

[sguardians2]

They got you scared, and willing to support all of their crap, and you won't even bother to look at the whole picture and come up with reality.

Scared of welfare people, scared of people who don't look like you, live like you, or act like you do. So you buy thier load of crap while they sell you down the river to the highest bidder, and you're too scared to open your eyes and see what's happening to you.

Got you in your nice neighborhood, driving your nice car, sold you the "American Dream", and you won't wake up until it's been snatched away from you, then they'll have you blaming everybody that looks, thinks, and lives different than you.

It's time to start thinking for yourself, and stop paying attention to "expert pundits" on cable, open your eyes, turn off cable, get to know the other sides of the story and weigh it against your current beliefs. I did, I was a card carrying Republican from the day I was old enough to vote. Then reality hit me dead in the face, and I had to re-evaluate everything. I started actually thinking for myself.

How refreshing.

 

[jeff f]

By the way, I've heard the same argument from the right since the seventies, about "the welfare state", yet they are willing to spend billions on wars that achieve shit, nothing, nada.

Where is true fiscal responsibility? Why is spending over 700 billion on wars, and don't get it twisted, I served, so much better than spending a few billion on social programs?

What kind of twisted logic is that? And please don't insult my intellegence with that "keeping us free" bullshit, because that's all that is.
How is invading a little crappy country like Iraq or anyplace like that supposed to keep us free?

How about making us truly free, and stopping this bullshit "war on drugs", that's costing billions, and solving nothing.

you seem to have a lot of pent up frustration.

think about this for a minute. if there are 11,000 people "looking" for work, and 1,100 people needing help....wouldnt it stand to reason that those jobs would be filled rather quickly? especially considering anchorage population

notice i didnt put qoutations around "needing" work in the previous statement. because those employers are absolutely in need of help. it is very expensive and very unproductive to advertise in the paper. employers hardly ever go to the paper other than to fulfill an EEO requirement.

when i need help i first call everyone i know in the business to see if they know anyone reliable that needs work. 2nd i will hire friends or family if they are in need. lastly i go to the paper.

almost all appliers from paper are just looking for an application to fulfill an unemployment obligation. its just the facts.

so, GWN has got it right whenhe says that there are probably way more jobs than 1100. and i would guess that the 11,000 unemployed is over stated because there are a lot of people collecting and working under the table for a friend. its the union way i just said that to be funny. i dont really feel that way

 

[sguardians2]

Even whith those numbers, skewed as they may be, there are still not enough jobs. I'm 45 years old and have lived through many recessions, and have never been without, but, even I can see the problem with even half those numbers. If it were 1,100 jobs fore 5,500 unemployed, that is still way too high. Much better though 1 out of 5 instead of 1 out of 10. But you gotta know that the stats quoted are closer to the reality, if you count the people who have fallen "through the cracks", and no longer show up as unemployed, because they are no longer eligible for benefits.

 

[jeff f]

They got you scared, and willing to support all of their crap, and you won't even bother to look at the whole picture and come up with reality.

Scared of welfare people, scared of people who don't look like you, live like you, or act like you do. So you buy thier load of crap while they sell you down the river to the highest bidder, and you're too scared to open your eyes and see what's happening to you.

Got you in your nice neighborhood, driving your nice car, sold you the "American Dream", and you won't wake up until it's been snatched away from you, then they'll have you blaming everybody that looks, thinks, and lives different than you.

It's time to start thinking for yourself, and stop paying attention to "expert pundits" on cable, open your eyes, turn off cable, get to know the other sides of the story and weigh it against your current beliefs. I did, I was a card carrying Republican from the day I was old enough to vote. Then reality hit me dead in the face, and I had to re-evaluate everything. I started actually thinking for myself.

How refreshing.

lemme take a shot at this. you are inyour early twenties, single, maybe have a kid? was i close? your statements are extremely conflicting. the american dream paragraph especially.

obama is dividing (doctors are bad, wallstreets bad, bankers are bad, oil companies are bad, big business is bad, small business is bad, rich people are bad, america is bad) and he is hear to fix everything.

his problem is that he has awakened the sleeping giant, free people living the american dream. free people dont have to watch cable. they are smart enough to figure out what is happening to them. and we dont have to take it. so we arent going to.

its free people who stand up for great things. handing out money to people who dont earn it is not a great thing. its disasterous. especially to the people that recieve it. it turns them into cattle that line up by the thousands in atlanta to get free rent money.

 

[sguardians2]

you seem to have a lot of pent up frustration.

think about this for a minute. if there are 11,000 people "looking" for work, and 1,100 people needing help....wouldnt it stand to reason that those jobs would be filled rather quickly? especially considering anchorage population

notice i didnt put qoutations around "needing" work in the previous statement. because those employers are absolutely in need of help. it is very expensive and very unproductive to advertise in the paper. employers hardly ever go to the paper other than to fulfill an EEO requirement.

when i need help i first call everyone i know in the business to see if they know anyone reliable that needs work. 2nd i will hire friends or family if they are in need. lastly i go to the paper.

almost all appliers from paper are just looking for an application to fulfill an unemployment obligation. its just the facts.

so, GWN has got it right whenhe says that there are probably way more jobs than 1100. and i would guess that the 11,000 unemployed is over stated because there are a lot of people collecting and working under the table for a friend. its the union way i just said that to be funny. i dont really feel that way

So, basically, you are saying that people go and apply for those jobs, get offered those jobs, then turn them down for a few more weeks of unemployment benefits? You can't be serious.

Or, your saying that nobody applies for those jobs at all?

Any way you argue it, it is not logical.

But, to be fair, we don't know how long those jobs have been available, or how many people have been rejected, for whatever reason, so we can't truly make completely logical assumptions here.

 

[sguardians2]

lemme take a shot at this. you are inyour early twenties, single, maybe have a kid? was i close? your statements are extremely conflicting. the american dream paragraph especially.

obama is dividing (doctors are bad, wallstreets bad, bankers are bad, oil companies are bad, big business is bad, small business is bad, rich people are bad, america is bad) and he is hear to fix everything.

his problem is that he has awakened the sleeping giant, free people living the american dream. free people dont have to watch cable. they are smart enough to figure out what is happening to them. and we dont have to take it. so we arent going to.

its free people who stand up for great things. handing out money to people who dont earn it is not a great thing. its disasterous. especially to the people that recieve it. it turns them into cattle that line up by the thousands in atlanta to get free rent money.

Sorry, wrong again, you're making assumptions based on no knowledge, which is typical of the right.

Once again, I'm 45 years old, my children are grown. Soooooo.....

And don't get it twisted, again, the American Dream is a hoax, you have to spend and spend to live that dream, as our politicians do so willingly, and encourage us to do the same, and support whatever war they throw at us to support their spending habits.

As you spend your way to the American Dream, they tell you that you are "supporting" our economy, but what they don't tell you is that there is a limit, and what we don't tell them, that there is a limit. So we spend our happy, dreaming asses into the poorhouse, and our economy into recession, devalue our dollar, print more money, borrow more money and, in the end where is this great American Dream?

That's right, you've been duped!

 

[sguardians2]

I'll have to agree with you on one point though, to much free shit can be debilitating, it can cause whole generations of people to stop thinking for themselves. But being sold a bill of goods has the same effect. Buying into false beliefs, is just as debilitating. You begin to biuld your entire life on wrong ideas, and when the rug is pulled out from under you... Well, let's just say the effects are disasterous.

This is what the United States is experiencing right now, and until we wake up and demand that we and our leaders be responsible, and stop buying the hoax, the disaster will continue, and escalate.

 

[jeff f]

Sorry, wrong again, you're making assumptions based on no knowledge, which is typical of the right.

Once again, I'm 45 years old, my children are grown. Soooooo.....

And don't get it twisted, again, the American Dream is a hoax, you have to spend and spend to live that dream, as our politicians do so willingly, and encourage us to do the same, and support whatever war they throw at us to support their spending habits.

As you spend your way to the American Dream, they tell you that you are "supporting" our economy, but what they don't tell you is that there is a limit, and what we don't tell them, that there is a limit. So we spend our happy, dreaming asses into the poorhouse, and our economy into recession, devalue our dollar, print more money, borrow more money and, in the end where is this great American Dream?

That's right, you've been duped!

maybe you spent yourself into the poorhouse but not everyone did. most didnt.

now, your govt on the other hand, has spent like drunkin saylors. bush included. now their solution is to take everything that the responsible people EARNED and saved, and give it to people who leech.

the american dream isnt dead at all. the american govt spending kazzilions of HARD WORKING PEOPLES MONEY is quickly coming to a head. the hard working free folks of this country will get through this. the leeches, well it aint gonna be long until they CANT be paid anymore. just ask california. can you say IOU's? anyone in california with money left is either moving it offshore or heading for the hills. same in NYC.

 

[UncleBuck]

you better stick to correcting grammar errors cuz thats just dumb.

you might want to articulate why you chose to insult me yet again. without an explanation from you as to WHY you believe i am dumb, i have nothing to disprove your belief and turn it around on you, where it rightfully deserves to be.

also, why do you think you are above board rules? you have made so many insults that if we met in person i would surely have rearranged your face by now.

 

[GreatwhiteNorth]

Oh, no you didn't!

Oh but you did say you were from Anchorage, do the math, 1,100 jobs for 11,000 people?

No wonder, Sarah Palin!

Same state, same stupid.

Did you simply start spewing erroneous BS or did you bother to read first?
I am not from Anchorage, nor did I ever say I was. Those numbers were from a quick bing search of Anchorage.
Sheesh . . . *Speak to the hand*

 

[doc111]

you might want to articulate why you chose to insult me yet again. without an explanation from you as to WHY you believe i am dumb, i have nothing to disprove your belief and turn it around on you, where it rightfully deserves to be.

also, why do you think you are above board rules? you have made so many insults that if we met in person i would surely have rearranged your face by now.

Threatening someone over the internet? Wow!!!!!

 

[Mindmelted]

You kill me doc......

 

[UncleBuck]

Threatening someone over the internet? Wow!!!!!

threat? nope. it's a hypothetical which will never come to pass because thankfully, i will never meet him in person. eventually he'll run his mouth to the wrong person and get what's coming to him for his litany of insults

 

[doc111]

threat? nope. it's a hypothetical which will never come to pass because thankfully, i will never meet him in person. eventually he'll run his mouth to the wrong person and get what's coming to him for his litany of insults

Some would call that a veiled threat. Either way, you're above that. Don't let all these people who disagree with your viewpoint drive you to violence. It ain't worth it.

 

[UncleBuck]

don't worry, i'm not a violent guy. just letting him know what i thought about his insults

 

[NoDrama]

I did, I was a card carrying Republican from the day I was old enough to vote. Then reality hit me dead in the face, and I had to re-evaluate everything. I started actually thinking for myself.

How refreshing.

So you were a republican, but what are you now? Or do you hold that there is only two viewpoints therefore there can be only the choice between conservative or liberal? Can't you be a Republican who thinks that welfare is a good thing? Or are all Republicans against welfare? Im just wondering why you think you were a Republican, but all of a sudden your brain went 180 and you became the opposite? Or do you think that maybe you weren't really a republican the whole time, but you liked some of the things they stood for , but as life went on you found out they were a bunch of lying assholes and decided you didn't want to side with that group anymore? Or do you change political sides depending on who is about to win the presidential race therefore always siding yourself with the "Winner"?

Can you take a picture of your card that says you were a republican, or do you really not have a card at all?

 

[jeff f]

Threatening someone over the internet? Wow!!!!!

thanks bro

 

[ultraviolet pirate]

think before you speak, study before you spout such foolishness. even in the worst of times, this nation has been the single most charitable nation on earth. its people give a greater percentage of their wealth to causes around the globe than the people of any other nation. they do this without compulsion and despite a growing atmosphere of dread caused by the cult of entitlement that is draining our people dry. while other nations depend on the government's coffers to aid those in need, it is the american people themselves that have always opened their hearts and their wallets far in advance of their overbearing bureaucracy and often to far greater effect. yes, we have the right to be selfish and greedy. we maintain that right because the individual has traditionally been considered to be capable of determining his own destiny by the laws of this land. we have maintained this right despite the propaganda of the liberal establishment and the pressures of the envious mob. we have maintained this right, but seldom is it actually abused. those that see the people of this country as self-centered and callous have been successfully indoctrinated into the cult of entitlement that is paving the way for totalitarian control.

i said risk what he has, like all he has.... not by like texting help to save haiti by giving ten bucks or some shit...if you wanna talk spouting, examine your own post there, glenn beck.