Looks like this woman just lost her primary race....

[doc111]

Yeah the people are angry, electing a liar and tax cheat is the answer to all the problems......BTW she is hardly an "outsider" to the political system or to the Republican party.............

This is not the resume of a political outsider:
This is her 3rd campaign in Delaware politics

"
Following college, O'Donnell went to work for Enough is Enough, a Washington, D.C.-based anti-pornography group.[13] Over the following two years, she worked in conservative issue advocacy and for the Republican National Committee,[18] and served as a spokesperson for Concerned Women for America, a Conservative Christian political action group which seeks to apply biblical principles to issues of public policy,[13][19] and which opposes abortion.[20] In 1996, she left Concerned Women for America and attended the 1996 Republican National Convention in San Diego, California.[13]
O'Donnell then founded the Savior's Alliance for Lifting the Truth (SALT) in 1996 and served as its president.[13] The organization lobbied the U.S. Congress on moral issues[4] and focused on advocating chastity and other Christian values in the college-age generation.[21] She made several high profile television appearances in her role. In 1996 O'Donnell appeared as a SALT representative on MTV's show, Sex In The 90's, in which she advocated for "sexual purity" when dealing with our "God given sexual desires". O'Donnell also advocated against masturbation, biblically equating it with adultery.[22] Two years later, O'Donnell appeared as a SALT representative on Bill Maher's show Politically Incorrect, and argued that since America "took the Bible and prayer out of public schools" we were now "having weekly (school) shootings", and that the 1960s "sexual revolution" led to the AIDS epidemic.[23]
She was awarded a Lincoln Fellowship by the Claremont Institute, a conservative think tank in 2002.[24]
In 2003, O'Donnell moved to Delaware to work for the conservative Intercollegiate Studies Institute (ISI) in Hockessin, and bought a house in Wilmington.[4][15] She registered a gender discrimination complaint against ISI with the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC), after which she was terminated by ISI in 2004.[4] She then sued the institute in the federal court for $6.9 million for wrongful termination claiming that she had been fired in retaliation for filing the discrimination complaint and due to ISI's conservative philosophy that women must be subordinate to men. She said ISI's actions caused her mental anguish,[4][25] and would lose future financial earning power because ISI's actions would delay her education.[nb 2] ISI defended its action by accusing her of having conducted a for-profit public-relations business while on their time.[4] O'Donnell dropped the suit in 2008, stating she could no longer afford an attorney.[4][15][16]
In 2008, she was unable to pay the mortgage for her Wilmington house and the mortgage company gained a judgment against her for $90,000; the house was due to be sold at a sheriff's auction in August 2008 when she sold it the month prior to her campaign's lawyer.[4] The IRS has filed a lien and said that O'Donnell owes $11,000 in back taxes, but O’Donnell says that it was a mistake and a “computer error”.[26] O'Donnell noted that the IRS agent handling the matter claimed he was perplexed by the agency's actions.[4] She listed herself as self-employed and said she was doing "odd jobs" to make ends meet.[4]
O'Donnell has worked as a marketing consultant[3] She has provided political commentary on numerous Fox News television programs, such as The O'Reilly Factor,[27] The Live Desk,[28] and Glenn Beck.[29] She has been supportive of the Right to Life and criticized pornography, masturbation and premarital sex.



Just what we need another CAREER politician that cheats on her taxes and earned $8,500 last year .............youve been bamboozled

I have been nothing of the sort. I didn't vote for her nor have I ever supported her. I've never even heard of her before a couple of days ago! lol!

 

[Johnnyorganic]

What bothers me is that it seems like the Tea Party "movement" is nothing more than the Moral Majority repackaged and renamed......all the same standards seem to apply to both.

Why I dont like her:
She opposes abortion in ALL cases....in other words if a 12 year old girl was to be raped by an uncle and impregnated, she would have her FORCED BY THE GOVERNMENT to carry the baby to term.....isn't that big government and government overreach into personal matters?

Seems like a lot in the movement are all for personal liberties as long as it doesnt offend their religious views........same thing with the govt. being involved, no big government UNLESS it offends Christian morals and ethos..............hypocrites

I would say that is a misinterpretation of the movement.

The "Tea" in "Tea Party" stands for Taxed Enough Already. Lower taxes and the limited government that must inevitably follow are the goals.

While it's inevitably true that some Teabaggers are pro-life and hyper-religous, it is not true for all Teabaggers; or the movement at large. Those issues do not power the movement.

It's no more a stealth Moral Majority than it is astroturf.

Peggy Noonan writes:

But at this moment we are witnessing a shift that will likely have some enduring political impact. Another way of saying that: The past few years, a lot of people in politics have wondered about the possibility of a third party. Would it be possible to organize one? While they were wondering, a virtual third party was being born. And nobody organized it.

Here is Jonathan Rauch in National Journal on the tea party's innovative, broad-based network: "In the expansive dominion of the Tea Party Patriots, which extends to thousands of local groups and literally countless activists," there is no chain of command, no hierarchy. Individuals "move the movement." Popular issues gain traction and are emphasized, unpopular ones die. "In American politics, radical decentralization has never been tried on such a large scale." Here are pollsters Scott Rasmussen and Doug Schoen in the Washington Examiner: "The Tea Party has become one of the most powerful and extraordinary movements in American political history." "It is as popular as both the Democratic and Republican parties." "Over half of the electorate now say they favor the Tea Party movement, around 35 percent say they support the movement, 20 to 25 percent self-identify as members of the movement."

So far, the tea party is not a wing of the GOP but a critique of it. This was demonstrated in spectacular fashion when GOP operatives dismissed tea party-backed Christine O'Donnell in Delaware. The Republican establishment is "the reason we even have the Tea Party movement," shot back columnist and tea party enthusiast Andrea Tantaros in the New York Daily News. It was the Bush administration that "ran up deficits" and gave us "open borders" and "Medicare Part D and busted budgets."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703440604575496221482123504.html

 

[doc111]

Who here likes card tricks? This one is a classic!


[video=youtube;abLKHdHDxfE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abLKHdHDxfE[/video]

 

[abe23]

^that might be true for some, but it seems like it's mostly people who are pissed at the results of the last presidential election. It wasn't in reaction to any actual tax increases...in fact, taxes were cut for most people through the stimulus. A lot of those folks are just sore loser republicans.

But in reality, the 'tea party' is so big and diverse that it's probably a little bit of all those things...

 

[Johnnyorganic]

Yeah the people are angry, electing a liar and tax cheat is the answer to all the problems......BTW she is hardly an "outsider" to the political system or to the Republican party.............

This is not the resume of a political outsider:
This is her 3rd campaign in Delaware politics

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Just what we need another CAREER politician that cheats on her taxes and earned $8,500 last year .............youve been bamboozled

A career politician, by definition, is someone who has been elected time and again over the course of a career.

O'Donnell is a perennial candidate. A wannabe.

In the realm of politics, she is the definition of the term outsider. Look at the way she has been manhandled by the establishment Republicans.

I received this email from the DNCC this morning. It seems they have been bamboozled, too.

I've seen Republicans twist the truth and tear down anyone in their way. I've seen them win elections with lies, smears, and worse. After Sarah Palin's candidate won in Delaware, the worst is about to hit.

When they attack, we must hit back twice as hard. Republican powerbrokers like Karl Rove and Swift Boat funders will plow $400 million into buying this election. The New York Times says Republican-leaning groups are outspending Democratic ones 10 to 1. Our candidates are being swamped.

Our chances of winning Delaware have improved, but the math hasn't changed. We've still got 15 states within five points, and Tea Party activists will come out of the woodwork on Election Day. We can't afford complacency - even for a minute.

The DSCC needs you to fight back before midnight tomorrow. They're watching every race, and when the dirty tricks come, they'll rush our scarce resources where they're needed most. Help meet their $105,155 goal right this minute.

 

[doc111]

^that might be true for some, but it seems like it's mostly people who are pissed at the results of the last presidential election. It wasn't in reaction to any actual tax increases...in fact, taxes were cut for most people through the stimulus. A lot of those folks are just sore loser republicans.

But in reality, the 'tea party' is so big and diverse that it's probably a little bit of all those things...

Come on abe! Smaller govt. is the goal here. That is the inevitability of lowering taxes (in theory).

 

[abe23]

There was no tea party before 2009. Did government magically grow overnight? Or are people just pissed off a democrat is in the white house? Don't kid yourselves, guys. These are some of the same people who brought you george w. bush, except now they're riding the small government anti-tax bandwagon..

 

[UncleBuck]

There was no tea party before 2009. Did government magically grow overnight? Or are people just pissed off a black democrat is in the white house? Don't kid yourselves, guys...

i fixed it!

now for me to chime in...

the right is going to shit. the most prominent voices in their party, like huckabee, palin, angle and the new gift that keeps giving, o'donnell, all believe that rape victims should carry to term and dinosaurs are jesus ponies. and they want access to the nuclear codes.

i am not comfortable with that reality.

 

[ink the world]

A career politician, by definition, is someone who has been elected time and again over the course of a career.

O'Donnell is a perennial candidate. A wannabe.

In the realm of politics, she is the definition of the term outsider. Look at the way she has been manhandled by the establishment Republicans.
I received this email from the DNCC this morning. It seems they have been bamboozled, too.

Got me on my phrasing Johnny, you're correct shes not a career politician; shes only made every dollar that shes earned since college (that she lied about graduating) from politics and Christian Conservatism groups. Close enough for me.

I dont think the DNC has been bamboozled at all, read their message. The get the problem they face, the Tea Party candidates that got NO love or RNC $ are now getting it. You gotta give the Republicans this, they get their ducks in a row and get to it. I might not agree with current path of the party but I know how much $ they have behind them.

There was no tea party before 2009. Did government magically grow overnight? Or are people just pissed off a democrat is in the white house? Don't kid yourselves, guys. These are some of the same people who brought you george w. bush, except now they're riding the small government anti-tax bandwagon..

I asked the same thing a year ago Abe, why werent people out protesting taxes from 2001-2008? Over 90% of the population payed HIGHER taxes than they do now, but once a black Democrat is in office and he actually CUTS taxes, it's tax Armageddon..

Seriously guys, unless your making REAL good $ you pay lower taxes, can anyone here actually say their taxes went up w/ Obama?

 

[Johnnyorganic]

i fixed it!

now for me to chime in...

the right is going to shit. the most prominent voices in their party, like huckabee, palin, angle and the new gift that keeps giving, o'donnell, all believe that rape victims should carry to term and dinosaurs are jesus ponies. and they want access to the nuclear codes.

i am not comfortable with that reality.

I see your Barack Hussein Obama and I raise you Lt. Col. Allen West.

http://www.allenwestforcongress.com/

 

[ginjawarrior]

i fixed it!

now for me to chime in...

the right is going to shit. the most prominent voices in their party, like huckabee, palin, angle and the new gift that keeps giving, o'donnell, all believe that rape victims should carry to term and dinosaurs are jesus ponies. and they want access to the nuclear codes.

i am not comfortable with that reality.

what makes it worse is than the "religous right" seem to be mostly made up of "endtimers" they seem convinced that we're caught up in the final battle and i would not put it past them to beleive they're supposed to help it along

 

[ink the world]

I see your Barack Hussein Obama and I raise you Lt. Col. Allen West.

Exactly Johnny, thanks for proving my own point....it isnt about taxes its about Race, "Socialist" and all the other crap.

Answer my question Johnny, did your taxes go up under Obama?

 

[Johnnyorganic]

Got me on my phrasing Johnny, you're correct shes not a career politician; shes only made every dollar that shes earned since college (that she lied about graduating) from politics and Christian Conservatism groups. Close enough for me.

I dont think the DNC has been bamboozled at all, read their message. The get the problem they face, the Tea Party candidates that got NO love or RNC $ are now getting it. You gotta give the Republicans this, they get their ducks in a row and get to it. I might not agree with current path of the party but I know how much $ they have behind them.

By your logic, if the DNCC was not bamboozled then neither were the Teabaggers, and Tea Party sympathizers like myself.

That email mirrors what I have been saying about the Teabagger surge, only I don't choose to evoke Progressive booger-men like Karl Rove or the Swift Boaters.

I asked the same thing a year ago Abe, why werent people out protesting taxes from 2001-2008? Over 90% of the population payed HIGHER taxes than they do now, but once a black Democrat is in office and he actually CUTS taxes, it's tax Armageddon..

Seriously guys, unless your making REAL good $ you pay lower taxes, can anyone here actually say their taxes went up w/ Obama?

Your argument only works if you adhere to the false narrative that Conservatives were happy with the excesses of the Bush years. Conservative does not automatically mean Republican any more than Tea Party automatically means Republican.

For your benefit I will repost the last paragraph of my previous quote from the Noonan piece in the WSJ: (Emphasis is mine)

So far, the tea party is not a wing of the GOP but a critique of it. This was demonstrated in spectacular fashion when GOP operatives dismissed tea party-backed Christine O'Donnell in Delaware. The Republican establishment is "the reason we even have the Tea Party movement." shot back columnist and tea party enthusiast Andrea Tantaros in the New York Daily News. It was the Bush administration that "ran up deficits" and gave us "open borders" and "Medicare Part D and busted budgets."

 

[ink the world]

Your argument only works if you adhere to the false narrative that Conservatives were happy with the excesses of the Bush years. Conservative does not automatically mean Republican any more than Tea Party automatically means Republican.


For your benefit I will repost the last paragraph of my previous quote from the Noonan piece in the WSJ: (Emphasis is mine)

Johon, I offered no real argument, I made a statement and then asked you a question. And what YOU highlighted helps prove my point again.
I agree 1000% about the Bush administration and what YOU highlighted.....If you and everyone else was so damned angry why werent you out protesting then? Why wasnt there a "Tea Party Movement" then?

And I'll ask my other question again, you say its all about taxes....Didnt you pay higher taxes under Bush than you do now?

 

[Johnnyorganic]

Exactly Johnny, thanks for proving my own point....it isnt about taxes its about Race, "Socialist" and all the other crap.

Answer my question Johnny, did your taxes go up under Obama?

They went up a dollar a pack in April of 2009.

I don't pay income taxes - by design.

But I'm really not a good example because I effectively took myself out of the economy in 2008 right around the time of the TARP passage. I sold my company and shrugged. I'm still shrugging. I lost all my owner's equity because I sold for a net loss. I paid no income taxes for 2008. I paid no income taxes for 2009. And I will pay none for 2010. I will fly under the government's tax radar and live off my assets until it is safe to re-enter the marketplace. In the meantime I am getting ready.

But your question sort of sidesteps the issue. If you lower taxes with one hand and raise them with the other, are you really lowering taxes? And that does not even factor in the other issues which will raise taxes either directly or indirectly. The Obamacare fisco and the Cap and Trade brouhaha of last summer come to mind immediately.

Could it be that the fact that Obama and the Democratic Congress were so eager to pass a Progressive agenda they chose to ignore the state of the economy, and that is why the Teabagger's message resonates so well?

EDIT: When I use the word 'argument' in reference to your statements, it is interchangeable with the word 'point.'

 

[Johnnyorganic]

Johon, I offered no real argument, I made a statement and then asked you a question. And what YOU highlighted helps prove my point again.
I agree 1000% about the Bush administration and what YOU highlighted.....If you and everyone else was so damned angry why werent you out protesting then? Why wasnt there a "Tea Party Movement" then?

And I'll ask my other question again, you say its all about taxes....Didnt you pay higher taxes under Bush than you do now?

Asked and answered.

The Conservatives did revolt during the Bush years. They stayed home in 2006, or like me, voted for other candidates. Bush fatigue in the Conservative ranks allowed the Democrats to take Congress.

If I were to show you my voting record I think you would be very surprised.

 

[ginjawarrior]

By your logic, if the DNCC was not bamboozled then neither were the Teabaggers, and Tea Party sympathizers like myself.

That email mirrors what I have been saying about the Teabagger surge, only I don't choose to evoke Progressive booger-men like Karl Rove or the Swift Boaters.


Your argument only works if you adhere to the false narrative that Conservatives were happy with the excesses of the Bush years. Conservative does not automatically mean Republican any more than Tea Party automatically means Republican.

For your benefit I will repost the last paragraph of my previous quote from the Noonan piece in the WSJ: (Emphasis is mine)

theres no way in hell that the tea party will beable to become a viable party on their own. the few seats (if any) that they gain wont mean fuck all unless they side with the republicans and even then they'll be in the minority and wont beable to do much

 

[redivider]

They went up a dollar a pack in April of 2009.

I don't pay income taxes - by design.

But I'm really not a good example because I effectively took myself out of the economy in 2008 right around the time of the TARP passage. I sold my company and shrugged. I'm still shrugging. I lost all my owner's equity because I sold for a net loss. I paid no income taxes for 2008. I paid no income taxes for 2009. And I will pay none for 2010. I will fly under the government's tax radar and live off my assets until it is safe to re-enter the marketplace. In the meantime I am getting ready.

But your question sort of sidesteps the issue. If you lower taxes with one hand and raise them with the other, are you really lowering taxes? And that does not even factor in the other issues which will raise taxes either directly or indirectly. The Obamacare fisco and the Cap and Trade brouhaha of last summer come to mind immediately.

Could it be that the fact that Obama and the Democratic Congress were so eager to pass a Progressive agenda they chose to ignore the state of the economy, and that is why the Teabagger's message resonates so well?

EDIT: When I use the word 'argument' in reference to your statements, it is interchangeable with the word 'point.'

if you sold your company for a LOSS then you don't have to pay taxes. you do have to file though.

and once you file you suffered a loss of equity, you're eligible for tax credits to help you offset that loss. that credit was paid for by other's taxes. I don't need a thank you. I'll say you're welcome.

i'm guessing it feels good to rally against taxes, exept when your on the receiving end of those taxes huh???

and if you're not filing taxes for any interest income your earning wait til the IRS catches up........ you'll be sorry. < damn truth. take it as advice. interest income is the easiest type of paper-trailed income you can earn.

 

[Johnnyorganic]

what makes it worse is than the "religous right" seem to be mostly made up of "endtimers" they seem convinced that we're caught up in the final battle and i would not put it past them to beleive they're supposed to help it along

Dude, as a foreigner commenting on this topic, you demonstrating you are out of your element by making such broad pronouncements. You would do yourself a favor by reading up on the Teabagger movement before repeating something you read or heard from a partisan source.

The Teabag movement encompasses people of all stripes. Not all of the Teabaggers are religious nut jobs, though some are. Not all religious people are evangelicals, though some are.

And belief in the Apocalypse is not limited to believers either. But that's beside the point.

The point is the movement favors limited government. Taxed Enough Already. Get it?

 

[Johnnyorganic]

if you sold your company for a LOSS then you don't have to pay taxes. you do have to file though.

and once you file you suffered a loss of equity, you're eligible for tax credits to help you offset that loss. that credit was paid for by other's taxes. I don't need a thank you. I'll say you're welcome.

i'm guessing it feels good to rally against taxes, exept when your on the receiving end of those taxes huh???

and if you're not filing taxes for any interest income your earning wait til the IRS catches up........ you'll be sorry.

Um, where did I say I did not file?

I said I did not pay income taxes. I did not mention capital gains taxes or payroll taxes, for that matter, did I?

47% of filers pay no income taxes and they are perfectly legal, as am I. So it's good enough for them but it's not good enough for Johnnyorganic. Is that what you are implying?

Nor do I recall having said I ever attended a rally of any kind.

Reading is fundamental kids.