On the Impeachment Front ... Help Needed
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ccodiane
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Not with us? Either way, fun is fun, and I've had more than my fair share today. Are "they" going to try and redistribute that next?~lol~ ... is this forum great, or what?
Vi
PS: LMAO ... at you guys.
Dreadscale
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It has no bearing what so ever if there is proof of wrong doing.
We will just fire the people that would prosecute us.
Refuse to talk to congress alone.
Hell we will say we are not part of the executive branch of government.
It doesn't matter, bring on the proof.
A quick question for ccodiane.
Do you believe Water-boarding is torture?
We will just fire the people that would prosecute us.
Refuse to talk to congress alone.
Hell we will say we are not part of the executive branch of government.
It doesn't matter, bring on the proof.
A quick question for ccodiane.
Do you believe Water-boarding is torture?
ccodiane
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Would the individual being water-boarded cut my head off if they caught me walking their streets? If the answer is yes, NO!!! It's a moral imperative. What's your position?
Dreadscale
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Torture is torture no matter what you call it, or the justification you use to apply it.
And it is illegal.
I rest my case.
And it is illegal.
I rest my case.
ViRedd
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Not quite. You/we will be able to have fun until 4pm every day ... but no joy what-so-ever will be allowed after that.
Vi
ccodiane
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It could happen, really.Not quite. You/we will be able to have fun until 4pm every day ... but no joy what-so-ever will be allowed after that.
Vi
We'll just have to have our fun behind closed doors, fun-easies!
ccodiane
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So how are we going to "penalize", (catch/kill), the "freedom fighters", (militant islamists/terrorists), who embark on less than justified "missions", (homicide attacks/terrorist campaigns), and in the process, "harm", (maim/torture/kill), "innocents", (jews/christians/americans/everything you hate)? Write a letter of condemnation? As a side note, do you believe that the death penalty is wrong, under any and all circumstances?
Dreadscale
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I didn't write the rules of war.
I would suggest you ask the people who got us into the war.(under false pretenses)
Definitely write the letters of condemnation. (although they will do no good)
As far as the death penalty, I don't believe I stated my beliefs one way or the other.
Since this was started as an impeachment thread. I saw one of your post here asking for proof of an impeachable offense. You seem well aware of water-boarding, which is torture, and tolerated by the president. That is an impeachable offense, but then we would have president Cheney, and no one wants to go there.
I would suggest you ask the people who got us into the war.(under false pretenses)
Definitely write the letters of condemnation. (although they will do no good)
As far as the death penalty, I don't believe I stated my beliefs one way or the other.
Since this was started as an impeachment thread. I saw one of your post here asking for proof of an impeachable offense. You seem well aware of water-boarding, which is torture, and tolerated by the president. That is an impeachable offense, but then we would have president Cheney, and no one wants to go there.
WillieNelson
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Since this was started as an impeachment thread. I saw one of your post here asking for proof of an impeachable offense. You seem well aware of water-boarding, which is torture, and tolerated by the president. That is an impeachable offense, but then we would have president Cheney, and no one wants to go there.
Do you have evidence that Cheney or Bush personally water boarded or tortured anyone?... I didn't think so.
ps~even if the president personally tortured an "enemy of the state", as comander of the armed forces it would fall under millitery law.
ccodiane
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As far as the death penalty, I don't believe I stated my beliefs one way or the other.I didn't write the rules of war.
I would suggest you ask the people who got us into the war.(under false pretenses)
Definitely write the letters of condemnation. (although they will do no good)
As far as the death penalty, I don't believe I stated my beliefs one way or the other.
Since this was started as an impeachment thread. I saw one of your post here asking for proof of an impeachable offense. You seem well aware of water-boarding, which is torture, and tolerated by the president. That is an impeachable offense, but then we would have president Cheney, and no one wants to go there.
Hence, the question mark.
I saw one of your post here asking for proof of an impeachable offense.
No you didn't. Why would I argue about such drivel? I just attack the messenger.
Dreadscale
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My apologies ccodaine
It was willienelson that wanted the proof not you.
Sorry I misrepresented your intentions here.
It was willienelson that wanted the proof not you.
Sorry I misrepresented your intentions here.
Johnnyorganic
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Is waterboarding torture? There is no permanent damage done. Others disagree: U.S. Intelligence Chief Says He Considers Waterboarding Torture
Is pulling out fingernails torture? Probably.
Is putting womens underpants on a naked prisoner's head torture? No.
Frankly, I don't know where the line is drawn between torture and coerced interrogation. But I do know that if torture gets usable intelligence out of captured enemies I'm okay with it. We are at war here, kids. War is a messy and grim business. Our enemies will engage in torture regardless of what we do.
One thing I am sure of: The U.S. has not been attacked since 9/11.
Is pulling out fingernails torture? Probably.
Is putting womens underpants on a naked prisoner's head torture? No.
Frankly, I don't know where the line is drawn between torture and coerced interrogation. But I do know that if torture gets usable intelligence out of captured enemies I'm okay with it. We are at war here, kids. War is a messy and grim business. Our enemies will engage in torture regardless of what we do.
One thing I am sure of: The U.S. has not been attacked since 9/11.
WillieNelson
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In Veitnam they didn't tortue VCs to get info, it was much more to the point. You take 2 VCs up in a chopper over the jungle. If neither one will talk, you would throw one out of the chopper. The other VC would start talking.
medicineman
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Movie magic. I was there and that happend very infrequently. Mostly done by CIA operatives. We heard about it, but I never saw it done.
WillieNelson
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The largest weapons cache found in Veitnam was discovered from information gained by these tactics and a little help from the 101st 25inf.
GrowRebel
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No, I wanted evidence. The bullshit articles you linked are stories of pro-impeachment fools like you. I still haven't seen the Times or BBC say, "these people commited these crimes and here is our proof". They run these articles on you pussy nutjobs and you think I give a fuck. Sit and spin.
Damn ... ten pages ... it will take a while ... but first this dummy ...
What a fucking idiot you are ... I have a thread with plenty of reports of the crimes ...
... you claim the BBC wasn't reporting on impeachment ... they are ...
... but a nazi like you would definitely turn a blind eye to obvious war crimes ...
... and I really don't give a damn what you think ... the evidence is clear ... just because your too stupid to see it doesn't mean it didn't happen ...
better a nutjob then a fucking ass kissing war criminal loving nazi ...
ccodiane
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Damn sweetcheeks! Whats crawled up your ass! fucking ass kissing war criminal loving nazi ... Them there are awful big accusations from such a dainty little lady such as yourself. There there, no need to cry.Damn ... ten pages ... it will take a while ... but first this dummy ...
What a fucking idiot you are ... I have a thread with plenty of reports of the crimes ...
... you claim the BBC wasn't reporting on impeachment ... they are ...
... but a nazi like you would definitely turn a blind eye to obvious war crimes ...
... and I really don't give a damn what you think ... the evidence is clear ... just because your too stupid to see it doesn't mean it didn't happen ...
better a nutjob then a fucking ass kissing war criminal loving nazi ...
GrowRebel
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Ladies and gentlemen there is solid proof of crimes ... and it is NEVER time to get over WAR CRIMES ... unless you're a nazi ...
ccodiane
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Yeah, just like it is never time to get over the 2000 election, right! After all, it was tantamount to the holocaust. Isn't that what you said?Ladies and gentlemen there is solid proof of crimes ... and it is NEVER time to get over WAR CRIMES ... unless you're a nazi ...