DoubleD's what to believe?

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doc111

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So you had friends that were not reputable, they lied and told people they were selling them something other than what it really was. They misrepresented what they had and knew that if they lied and told people they were purchasing something the people would really like to be purchasing the customers would; "come running" and pay for one strain while thinking they were getting a totally different strain.

So you are saying that your friends were just like Dr. Greenthumb.

Interesting .... I guess.
I never said I approved of their actions (Did I?:?). You mean to tell me you've never "known" anyone who did this? I thought all of us old stoners knew of somebody who's slapped a name on some good weed in order to help their sales along. :fire:

Interesting...............I guess.:-P

P.S. I was using this experience to make the point of "who gives a shit what it's called as long as it's dank!" I thought you of all people would've caught that. :sad:
 

lemonz

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this is not what the community is about!
childish pathetic petty arguments about WHOS PLANT IT IS..........ITS NATURES PLANT NOT DD'S NOT NEVILES NOT GREEN THUMBS ITS ALL OF OURS.
WHAT IS GOING ON? MONEY AND GREED HAS DISTORTED BOTH OF THESE MEN (i say men but there acting like 10 year olds in a playground)
DD WHY DONT YOU GO AND SMOKE G13 BY YOURSELF IN THE CORNER, YOU DONT LIKE SHARING DO YOU? I WOULD RATHER SMOKE PANTS WEED WITH MY LOVED ONES THEN THE BEST WEED IN THE WORLD BY MYSELF!
GREEN THUMB WHY DONT YOU SHOVE YOUR OVERPRICED BEENS WHERE THE SUN DONT SHINE!
IS THIS WHAT ITS COMING TO NOWADAYS?
I COULD NOT CARE LESS ABOUT WHOS LIEING THEY BOTH SHOWED THER TRUE COLOURS GREEDY LITTLE INSECTS!
YOUR BRINGING SHAME TO THE COMMUNITY WHY DONT YOU BOTH GROW UP OR JUST GO AWAY!
 

doc111

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No worries man, we're all trying to find out the truth. I for one would love to grow G13 from seed but nothing I've read has led me to believe that Dr.G's claims are real.
I don't think we'll ever know the whole truth. Hell, G13 may not even exist for all anybody knows! I have smoked what someone "called" G13 and it was some fire! That doesn't mean it was G13 though. What if the good Doctor's strain isn't the "real deal" but it's still some of the best pot around. Would all be forgiven then?:blsmoke:
 

woodsmaneh!

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I never said I approved of their actions (Did I?:?). You mean to tell me you've never "known" anyone who did this? I thought all of us old stoners knew of somebody who's slapped a name on some good weed in order to help their sales along. :fire:

Interesting...............I guess.:-P

P.S. I was using this experience to make the point of "who gives a shit what it's called as long as it's dank!" I thought you of all people would've caught that. :sad:
I have only dealt with honest dealers and never have been sold a bill of good, I know this because I am a good person, now do you want to buy a bag of G13 with some seeds in it.

Bull shit bricktop no need for a moral lashing on his illastrative example we all get lied to, I Love You and the checks in the mail. Some times you tell people what they want to hear, some times you don't.
 

Brick Top

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I never said I approved of their actions (Did I?:?). You mean to tell me you've never "known" anyone who did this? I thought all of us old stoners knew of somebody who's slapped a name on some good weed in order to help their sales along.
I never said or even inferred that you did approve. I only made the obvious comparison between the disreputable business practices of your friends and the disreputable business practices of Dr. Greenthumb.


As for me having ever personally known any dealers that did that .... nope, I can't say that I never personally knew a dealer than misrepresented what he was selling. I heard of it happening now and then, but I never knew one personally. But then back then in my area tokers somewhat policed dealers to keep them honest. If a dealer was known to be ripping people off in some way or another, people would bide their time and wait until they were someplace the dealer was at, like a party, and they would slip a number of hits of acid into their beer or whatever they were drinking and send them on the trip of their life.

Knowing that sooner or later it would happen to them if they played fast and loose with the truth tended to keep almost all of them honest.

Also, in my case I began growing when I was 17 and I didn't purchase from dealers all that much after that so I didn't have nearly the exposure to them that many people did or now do.

P.S. I was using this experience to make the point of "who gives a shit what it's called as long as it's dank!" I thought you of all people would've caught that.
I think it is a bit different when you are talking about a professional breeder, that some used to be able to perceive as being one of the best and most honest, being caught misrepresenting a strain and using what might be the most famous strain name of modern times for whatever it is that he is really selling, dank or not, so he could attract more business and could overcharge people than when you are talking about some nickle and dime shit-heel dealer.
 

bajafox

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I don't think we'll ever know the whole truth. Hell, G13 may not even exist for all anybody knows! I have smoked what someone "called" G13 and it was some fire! That doesn't mean it was G13 though. What if the good Doctor's strain isn't the "real deal" but it's still some of the best pot around. Would all be forgiven then?:blsmoke:
Well we can only work with the cards that are dealt. So far Dr.G has confirmed that DD's cut is the real deal, which gives us 2 people who claim DD's cut is the real deal (DD and Dr.G)

Unfortunately that's all we have to work with but IF this strain does exist, I would love to try to grow it some day.

But none of that matters when there is someone out there claiming they have it in seed form and are selling it at a ridiculous price... That was the whole issue that started this, not whether DD's cut was real or not. The fact remains that there is someone out there selling over priced seeds, more so than usual
 

Brick Top

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Bull shit bricktop no need for a moral lashing on his illastrative example we all get lied to, I Love You and the checks in the mail. Some times you tell people what they want to hear, some times you don't.

Maybe you do. Well maybe everyone does at some time or another, like when a girlfriend or wife asks if a dress makes them look fat. Of course you can't say it's not the dress that makes you look fat, it's the fat that makes you look fat. But when you are talking about cheating people out of their money through misrepresentation that is something totally different.

I owned a car dealership and I owned a marina where we also sold boats and I can in all honesty say that I never once lied to a customer. Not once. And I preached to my salespeople to be honest and when now and then I had one that was not honest and I found out about it, they were let go, fired, told to leave and leave now and if another dealer called to ask if they were a good salesperson or not I was honest and said they were a dishonest salesperson. That didn't always keep them from getting a job because not ever dealer was like me, they did not care if a salesperson lied. All they cared about was how many units they moved. But that was not my way of doing business and it is not the way business should be done. I had standards, moral standards, and I would not and will knowingly deal with someone who I know does not have such standards.
 

TheLastWood

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Brick top, I admire you and respect your knowledge but you talk of morals, honesty and slipping acid into someones beer?

I've done a lot of acid, and if you told me you were gonna give me acid id say thank you, but unknowingly slipping it into someones drink can have serious mental side affects that last a lot longer than the acid. If I didn't know why I was tripping, and wasn't comfortable with it, I would be extremely uncool with it even though I've done it many times.
 

woodsmaneh!

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I guess that brings us to the question is the moral compass on or off, all or part of the time. Still relevant to the over all discussion after all.
 

Brick Top

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Brick top, I admire you and respect your knowledge but you talk of morals, honesty and slipping acid into someones beer?
I did not say that I ever did it, because I never did it. I said I never knew a dealer that misrepresented what they sold but in that time, in that era and in my area if a dealer did rip people off in some way or another people, other people, not me, would dose them.


I've done a lot of acid, and if you told me you were gonna give me acid id say thank you, but unknowingly slipping it into someones drink can have serious mental side affects that last a lot longer than the acid. If I didn't know why I was tripping, and wasn't comfortable with it, I would be extremely uncool with it even though I've done it many times.
I agree, an unexpected trip is not cool and the gang to experience, especially when given enough to make an elephant trip their brains out. But that is what some people I knew did to dealers that ripped people off.

I did not say it was right to do, and I did not say it was wrong to do. I only said that is what was done a few times. While not cool and the gang it was somewhat a case of 'frontier justice.' We were all 'hippies' and no one was going to beat someone up and no one was going to rat someone out to the cops, but there were ones who would not sit back and do nothing when there was a dealer ripping people off, so they took matters into their own hands.

I dropped a lot of acid, and about every other type hallucinogenic, in my youth and I was lucky enough to never have a 'bad trip' and only once was I around someone who did, and it was not fun. Four of us did some four way windowpane and even before we were peaking one of my friends was staring at the rest of us and had a scowl on his face. Finally he said, I didn't see Johnny take anything, he said he thought he saw me take some but wasn't sure, and the other friend was a friend of mine from college and the guy said, and I don't know that guy at all and I didn't see him take anything ... and there is no way you guys could just be sitting there like that if you felt like I do .... what did you give me?

Of course other than his state of mind he was sitting there just like the rest of us, watching "The Wizard of Oz," but he convinced himself that we were straight and had dosed him heavily and it took a lot of talking over what seemed like a long period of time to get him to chill.
 

Brick Top

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This G13 thing is not the first time that Dr. Greenthumb has pawned off on people a strain that was not what he claimed it to be. Some years back he claimed to have the real deal old school Acapulco Gold.

I had smoked a lot of it when I was younger and I grew it many times so I was very familiar with it. When I saw what was claimed to be the Real MoCoy for sale I jumped on it.

What I got was nowhere even half close to real Acapulco Gold. It was more like Ghetto Gold. What he was selling and calling real true old school Acapulco Gold was about as much the real deal Acapulco Gold as I am Jessie Jackson.

So this G13 thing is not the first time he has pulled a dishonest stunt like this. He has done it before. After he sold me Ghetto Gold when I thought I was purchasing Acapulco Gold I never purchased from him again, and I will never purchase from him again because of it.

Between that and now this G13 thing there is no reason for anyone to trust him any farther than they could comfortably spit out a rat. I sure don't anyway.
 
This G13 thing is not the first time that Dr. Greenthumb has pawned off on people a strain that was not what he claimed it to be. Some years back he claimed to have the real deal old school Acapulco Gold.

I had smoked a lot of it when I was younger and I grew it many times so I was very familiar with it. When I saw what was claimed to be the Real MoCoy for sale I jumped on it.

What I got was nowhere even half close to real Acapulco Gold. It was more like Ghetto Gold. What he was selling and calling real true old school Acapulco Gold was about as much the real deal Acapulco Gold as I am Jessie Jackson.

So this G13 thing is not the first time he has pulled a dishonest stunt like this. He has done it before. After he sold me Ghetto Gold when I thought I was purchasing Acapulco Gold I never purchased from him again, and I will never purchase from him again because of it.

Between that and now this G13 thing there is no reason for anyone to trust him any farther than they could comfortably spit out a rat. I sure don't anyway.
Make that two of us
 

TheLastWood

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I've seen 2 ppl trip on cid. 1 really bad. He ended up getting tazed, tackled by the police and into the hospital.

And before that another kid on acid kicked him down the stairs of the apt. Complex we were at. When ur frying and someone starts tripping, it scares you too lol.

I don't want anyone to think I'm taking sides on this, I rly don't even care about doc, dd or g13. But dd paying ppl seeds to flame doc is cluttering up our forum and quite annoying. Ppl could "warn" ppl about doc, if that's what they are trying to do, with 1 thread hell even 2. But 6?
 

londonfog

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I've seen 2 ppl trip on cid. 1 really bad. He ended up getting tazed, tackled by the police and into the hospital.

And before that another kid on acid kicked him down the stairs of the apt. Complex we were at. When ur frying and someone starts tripping, it scares you too lol.

I don't want anyone to think I'm taking sides on this, I rly don't even care about doc, dd or g13. But dd paying ppl seeds to flame doc is cluttering up our forum and quite annoying. Ppl could "warn" ppl about doc, if that's what they are trying to do, with 1 thread hell even 2. But 6?
Then why you keep posting in them :dunce:
 

londonfog

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Knock of the damn trolling.... I swear you are becoming more of a troll everyday, and you always do it to the same damn people.... stop it already and grow up please...
dude I thought you had me on ignore...keep it real and do as you said...ignore me..
 
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