Man Shot and Killed While Watering Friend's Lawn

[grow plenty]

So some people that just raped and killed alittle girl just got away????!!!! lol...not a world i want to live in.

no,just a lil weed they didnt want to go to jail for. just as simple and possible as your assumption. but it dont glorify the cops huh?

 

[grow plenty]

if the guy held the water nozzle like a pistol, and pointed it at the cops, he had it coming plain and simple..the cops arent going to wait and see if its real...dont point shit at cops!! i avoid those fuckers like the plague.. i know they all have itchy trigger fingers..they get paid vacations for discharging their firearms.

how many times have you gotten drunk and done something stupid? lord knows i have. cops should be a little more decisive in their actions, if it means getting shot at then that just goes with the dangers of being a cop...not like theyre forced into the job.theyre trained,equipped with the most up to date tech. available, why not wait and find out the situation instead of a pit bull after a rabbit mentality. sorry but i just dont get all the sympathy

 

[budlover13]

good for you, too bad people like you dont fit in well enough to stay on longer.

I personally view it as a failure for the most part. While I learned alot and helped many, I could've been a good person on the inside. Can you say WHISTLE-BLOWER? But I viewed it as a suicide mission at that point and figured I would be better off to retreat and survive to fight another day. And here I am. Got a LOT of work to do but have the tools, or "info" to at least get a good start!

 

[budlover13]

Not that I have some major scandal, but enough first-hand knowledge and evidence to convince a few people to see my side of things.

 

[valjean]

yeah i am with you, i would rather have my life than try to cause any change with them. call me a coward but at least i aint dead or popped.

i meant good for you for not shooting.

 

[budlover13]

yeah i am with you, i would rather have my life than try to cause any change with them. call me a coward but at least i aint dead or popped.

i meant good for you for not shooting.

Ahh, shots were already done being fired by the time I arrived. Just a domestic dispute. Guy was actually pretty cool with me and admitted to fucking up. But what if he hadn't? I would've shot him in a heartbeat. That's not where my problem was. It was the fact that if I had been jumped, out-manned, or out-gunned, NONE of my co-workers were backing me up. Suicide.

 

[budlover13]

how many times have you gotten drunk and done something stupid? lord knows i have. cops should be a little more decisive in their actions, if it means getting shot at then that just goes with the dangers of being a cop...not like theyre forced into the job.theyre trained,equipped with the most up to date tech. available, why not wait and find out the situation instead of a pit bull after a rabbit mentality. sorry but i just dont get all the sympathy

It comes down to seconds a lot of the time. Or fractions of a second. "He who hesitates dies." was a common saying back in the day. Just to give you a little insight.

 

[SocataSmoker]

Wow, what a mush of skewed thinking, I think this thread should embarrass the whole cannabis community...

Sure, let's get rid of all the cops, we'd really be able to live in peace then... of course the occasional cartel or two might stop by the house to chat, but that's okay... I pay them to keep me safe.

But with no businesses open due to 100% crime rates... I don't know how long my money will last, a few months at most maybe... will probably have to move into the woods soon.

 

[valjean]

this has very little to do with weed.

and the cops in south florida are so out of control they are under fbi investigation.

i wont name the counties because it would basically pin point my home town but cops of different counties down here basically war it out like gangs.

so yeah, they need to be overhauled.

 

[SocataSmoker]

this has very little to do with weed.

and the cops in south florida are so out of control they are under fbi investigation.

i wont name the counties because it would basically pin point my home town but cops of different counties down here basically war it out like gangs.

so yeah, they need to be overhauled.

It has a lot to do with cannabis because it's a subject on a cannabis forum... when we should be trying to improve relations with police, the majority in here are willing to destroy it over some idiotic notion that every cop out there is a uniformed version of a corrupted Rambo.

Wait, cops under FBI investigation? I thought that gangs don't rat out each other so how would the FBI know who or what to investigate?

Or does this mean that there are good cops out there?

Blah, I still say fire every one of them... I've got enough ammo to last at least a year, after that... it's to the hills to build a shanty house for my wife and kid, and hope that the cartels don't see the smoke from my wood stove.

 

[valjean]

do you realize that this conversation has involved an ex member of some police force? sooo the topic of corrupt departments versus rogue individuals has been breached...

i have three cousins in miami who are cops. they are not evil, but they are dumb.

and gangs rat eachother out all the time how you think any off them get taken down ever??

wow you're defensive about this you sure do love you some bacon huh?

 

[Devildog93]

We can't get rid of cops.......anyone who says that is dumber than shit.

What can't be denied.......I don't give a fuck who you are............is that the tactics of police and law enforcement type people needs to be evaluated. The penalties for cops that blatantly kill someone, it can be proven......should fuckin hang.

When I got raided, they said they were watching my house for several months. Yet when the raid happened, they had no knowledge of a child and his mom that lived in a seperate suite. The same mom that I often let use my vehicle to take her son to school. In fact, she nearly used my car every day in the supposed "watch time".
They raided the upstairs, got all shocked when they found another entrance that went downstairs. While I was on the ground, face down, they were stacking at her door, ready to do a full breach.

I had to yell at them, while there was a knee and an MP5 in the back of my neck, and the pig threatening to shoot me......WHILE I WAS FUCKING CUFFED !!!!!!!

I yelled..........."There's a woman and child downstairs !!!!......"

COPS at door-- "What, there's what........??"

ME--- "theres a mom and child down there !!!!"

COP ON MY BACK----"YOU FUCKIN MOVE I AM GOING TO TAKE YOUR FUCKING HEAD OFF !!!"

ME-- "FUCK YOU YOU FUCK !!!! YOU MOTHER FUCKERS HURT THAT KID, I WILL FIND EVERY FUCKING ONE OF YOU !!!!"

COPS at door--- " GET READY !!!!

ME ---"LISTEN YOU FUCKHEADS !!!!!!!! FUCK YOU......YOU GONNA FUCKING SHOOT A CHILD !??!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!? WHAT THE FUCK !!!!"

COP ON MY BACK--" QUIT FUCKING MOVING!!!!"

This went on for a while.....

I finally got it thru to them, and they slowed their roll a bit. But that shows the preparation that goes into these fucking things. They sit there and watch ............BUT THEY DON"T FUCKING OBSERVE !!!!!

What if the kid got shot because he was playing with one of his many toy guns ????!!????

They were ready to do everything to protect themselves, but not one bit of research to ensure the safety of innocent bystanders.......in all the months of watching they never noticed the mom and her son driving out the driveway, in MY CAR. The one they follow all the time. Nor did they notice her use it to leave and go pick him up everyday too......

They didn't even research to see if there was a seperate suite.

 

[valjean]

is it not possible that citizens themselves have made enough noise about police shennanigans to require investigations?

or does it only mean something if it comes out a cops mouth?

 

[SocataSmoker]

We can't get rid of cops.......anyone who says that is dumber than shit.

What can't be denied.......I don't give a fuck who you are............is that the tactics of police and law enforcement type people needs to be evaluated.

ME-- "FUCK YOU YOU FUCK !!!! YOU MOTHER FUCKERS HURT THAT KID, I WILL FIND EVERY FUCKING ONE OF YOU !!!!"

Good to see you say that...

As for tactics... yes I agree that some of them may need to be revised, many departments get their tactics from other, bigger departments and usually these bigger departments tactics are more forceful due to the fact that a good many of their calls are probably out to ghetto's, or locations where they do expect to meet resistance.

On the other hand, you put that mother and her son at risk yourself by doing what you did, and then fucking up and getting busted for it.

Had that child been shot, I would only hope that you would find fault in yourself for shitting where you eat and not only lay blame on the officers.


Even if it was only growing cannabis, if I was not legally protected by law while growing, I would never, ever put a child at risk by growing in an adjacent apartment or whatever... that is just stupid beyond belief.

 

[valjean]

cannabis doesnt kill little kids. dicks with guns do.

 

[Devildog93]

Good to see you say that...

As for tactics... yes I agree that some of them may need to be revised, many departments get their tactics from other, bigger departments and usually these bigger departments tactics are more forceful due to the fact that a good many of their calls are probably out to ghetto's, or locations where they do expect to meet resistance.

On the other hand, you put that mother and her son at risk yourself by doing what you did, and then fucking up and getting busted for it.

Had that child been shot, I would only hope that you would find fault in yourself for shitting where you eat and not only lay blame on the officers.


Even if it was only growing cannabis, if I was not legally protected by law while growing, I would never, ever put a child at risk by growing in an adjacent apartment or whatever... that is just stupid beyond belief.

R U fucking kidding me.......

Fuck right off......done with this fuckin idiot.

 

[SocataSmoker]

R U fucking kidding me.......

Fuck right off......done with this fuckin idiot.

Truth hurts my friend... you can say it isn't your fault at all if someone living next door to your unit gets hurt, but who brought the cops there in the first place?

cannabis doesnt kill little kids. dicks with guns do.

Who said cannabis kills kids?

 

[budlover13]

We can't get rid of cops.......anyone who says that is dumber than shit.

What can't be denied.......I don't give a fuck who you are............is that the tactics of police and law enforcement type people needs to be evaluated. The penalties for cops that blatantly kill someone, it can be proven......should fuckin hang.

When I got raided, they said they were watching my house for several months. Yet when the raid happened, they had no knowledge of a child and his mom that lived in a seperate suite. The same mom that I often let use my vehicle to take her son to school. In fact, she nearly used my car every day in the supposed "watch time".
They raided the upstairs, got all shocked when they found another entrance that went downstairs. While I was on the ground, face down, they were stacking at her door, ready to do a full breach.

I had to yell at them, while there was a knee and an MP5 in the back of my neck, and the pig threatening to shoot me......WHILE I WAS FUCKING CUFFED !!!!!!!

I yelled..........."There's a woman and child downstairs !!!!......"

COPS at door-- "What, there's what........??"

ME--- "theres a mom and child down there !!!!"

COP ON MY BACK----"YOU FUCKIN MOVE I AM GOING TO TAKE YOUR FUCKING HEAD OFF !!!"

ME-- "FUCK YOU YOU FUCK !!!! YOU MOTHER FUCKERS HURT THAT KID, I WILL FIND EVERY FUCKING ONE OF YOU !!!!"

COPS at door--- " GET READY !!!!

ME ---"LISTEN YOU FUCKHEADS !!!!!!!! FUCK YOU......YOU GONNA FUCKING SHOOT A CHILD !??!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!? WHAT THE FUCK !!!!"

COP ON MY BACK--" QUIT FUCKING MOVING!!!!"

This went on for a while.....

I finally got it thru to them, and they slowed their roll a bit. But that shows the preparation that goes into these fucking things. They sit there and watch ............BUT THEY DON"T FUCKING OBSERVE !!!!!

What if the kid got shot because he was playing with one of his many toy guns ????!!????

They were ready to do everything to protect themselves, but not one bit of research to ensure the safety of innocent bystanders.......in all the months of watching they never noticed the mom and her son driving out the driveway, in MY CAR. The one they follow all the time. Nor did they notice her use it to leave and go pick him up everyday too......

They didn't even research to see if there was a seperate suite.

THIS is why I had loacal PD inspect my grow when I first started. If they want to inspect it, they can now schedule an appointment.

 

[valjean]

no one. you said he should share guilt were something to happen to his neighbors kid. i was implying that i disagree.

 

[budlover13]

Good to see you say that...

As for tactics... yes I agree that some of them may need to be revised, many departments get their tactics from other, bigger departments and usually these bigger departments tactics are more forceful due to the fact that a good many of their calls are probably out to ghetto's, or locations where they do expect to meet resistance.

On the other hand, you put that mother and her son at risk yourself by doing what you did, and then fucking up and getting busted for it.

Had that child been shot, I would only hope that you would find fault in yourself for shitting where you eat and not only lay blame on the officers.


Even if it was only growing cannabis, if I was not legally protected by law while growing, I would never, ever put a child at risk by growing in an adjacent apartment or whatever... that is just stupid beyond belief.

And yet another argument for a pre-grow inspection.