Who can Diagnose this Plants Sickness?

NastYNortH

Member
Nevermind thats your humidity I see 78 degrees under the 60 your all good but you haven't watered that droopy one have you?
 

chris90

Member
nope letting that droopy one dry out the two on the right lightly watered them cause they were dry. I am nervous on overwatering them so I do like light watering but then they dry out fast at least on the right two. Not sure if every few days light waters are good or one good big watering session is better. The whole overwatering thing scares me now so im cautious.
 

growone

Well-Known Member
generally, light waterings are a bad idea, they have a couple bad effects
one is no outflow lets toxic products build in the soil, the other is it encourages shallow roots since roots grow to the moisture
water so there is some outflow(about 1/4 of the volume water used), then let dry for several days
MJ is tough, it won't fall over from surface drying
 

chris90

Member
Thanks for the help guys, appreciate it.. helps a bunch. Experience plus help from you guys and this forum I feel confident the confidence and buds boosting already lol
 

chris90

Member
well heres an update...think they are growing slow. Last time i took pics were 4/4 it is now 4/17

The one vanilla kush on the left I was worried about now looks like this



Then theres this guy on the right who looks like hes nitrogen deficent...



I am going to repot when soil dries out and if that doesnt help the case I have this fertilizer on the way hopefully to boost nitrogen
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004FGDMPK

thoughts?
 

chris90

Member
heres pictures of them repotted it helped nitrogen deficency in the cheese but the vanilla kush in the middle seems sick and the other vanilla kush on the left is curling down. gonna water them with nutes saturday hopefully that helps.
all 3


sick kush



Left kush curling down
 

growone

Well-Known Member
you seem to be getting into a 'whipsaw' situation, correcting and counter correcting
be very cautious with the feeding, i'd suggest some measurements of the soil conditions
there are test strips, could alway splurge on a good meter
 

growone

Well-Known Member
yeah i haven't fed in a bit maybe a week. I just received some n-p-k fertilizer(http://www.amazon.com/Natural-Liquid-Fertilizer-16-4-8-Quart/dp/B004FGDMPK) it says 1 tblspoon a quart so im putting 4 tblspoons into my distilled gallon of water then gonna try a watering with that, hopefully it helps.
i would caution against that, no more than the recommended amount, probably less would be better
from the number of times i've seen people trying to fix their sick plants by feeding more, i can't recall many cases where that helped
 

chris90

Member
Alright so they got better and I thought it was time to top them....Topped 3 of them with a blade 2 straight across 1 at 45 degree angle, 2 were topped in the middle and one topped at the top for experimental purposes, see what works best.

I used rooting concentrate called dip n grow which was a bit sketchy because you pour the rooting liquid in a measuring cup and dilute with water and that is your solution Dip the cutting in for 3-5 seconds it said. I put it in a cup with pre watered soil

http://www.amazon.com/Dip-Grow-Liquid-Rooting-Concentrate/dp/B0007LTQR0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1303778629&sr=8-1

Anyways after it was all done I did not feel good cause I felt like my babies were chopped off but science says it is for the best, so I can only keep my fingers crossed.
Pictures

BEFORE




After-

-note the cup with the baby cutting in it I just want to see if it will root out into a plant, I know it is not likely



Lmk what you fellas think
 

DONKEYkong922

Active Member
This isn't a complete answer but they are definitely over-watered. If you're feeding by soil there isn't too much need to foliar feed, and even so you should make sure not to give the plant too much water through either/both ways. Let the soil dry out a bit and then water again as needed.
 

growone

Well-Known Member
nice recovery, you have definitely progressed in the zen of the grow
clones and strong light don't mix, you don't want them getting the same brightness as your rooted plants
cuttings will quickly die from this treatment because they need time to coax their roots to start
until then, they need to survive on the nutrients stored with in the leaves
 

chris90

Member
This isn't a complete answer but they are definitely over-watered. If you're feeding by soil there isn't too much need to foliar feed, and even so you should make sure not to give the plant too much water through either/both ways. Let the soil dry out a bit and then water again as needed.
I try not to over water. I fed them 21st and watered all of them today april 25th using distilled water from the gallon jugs because they were a bit dried out then took pics after, I guess I could have waited another day to water though.


nice recovery, you have definitely progressed in the zen of the grow
clones and strong light don't mix, you don't want them getting the same brightness as your rooted plants
cuttings will quickly die from this treatment because they need time to coax their roots to start
until then, they need to survive on the nutrients stored with in the leaves
thanks man, what do you recommend me doing with the clones, just take them off the pots they are on and put the cups on the ground? I just felt like they wouldn't catch any light down there
 

growone

Well-Known Member
clones don't need much light, i use a 13w bulb and the clone is about a foot away

EDIT : that's for rooting, which is usually a 2 week or so process
 

chris90

Member
growone guess you were right either that or I did something wrong.. gonna try clonex gel next time up instead of dip n grow solution

checked on em this morning :(

 

growone

Well-Known Member
don't despair, just move them well back from the light, clones wilt often, you may yet get them to grow
 
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