Dan Kone
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Why do you hate freedom so much? The constitution doesn't say anything about watershed.
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budlover13
King Tut
Too many rules of debate violated here to even quote them. Typical.
Yes it does.
budlover13
King Tut
i believe that if you live in my watershed and you are polluting it, the Constitution gives me the right to remedy that wrong. My FAITH gives you the benefit of the doubt and the respect of a rational conversation.
Dan Kone
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ok. Well if you communists want to defend the FDA and EPA that's your choice but I prefer freedom.
Dan Kone
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No it doesn't. The constitution says nothing about the FDA or EPA.
Yes it does.
Dan Kone
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boom. jedi mind trick successful
budlover13
King Tut
Who said i need the FDA or EPA to remedy the problem? My land, my watershed, my community. Someone dumps shit in my river, *POOF*, gone......
budlover13
King Tut
Juuuuuust saying.
Clinton spent around 45-50 million in 1998. This doesn't count secret service costs, and other costs. Before you say "He always has security", keep in mind that the security he would have in another country would be a lot beefier, and travel costs associated with secret service would be large and not included. With inflation that is almost 70 million, not counting security. Now factor in that 9/11 happened, and we have a lot more security in place. They built a tunnel for Obama. Tell me that didn't cost a few dollars? Any number under 100 million is going to fall short. 100-200 million is definitely the ballpark. I never said 200 million a day, I said 200 million is closer.See when you post Bullshit likes this it makes people realize that your whole story is BULLSHIT...The cost total was no where near 200 million total, but just like a repuke you have to lie to try to prove a point..First they said it was 200 million per day now you say 200 million total...Do some research and you will realize that the trip was on par with what Clinton and Bush spent on trips abroad and none of those trips ever went over the 20 million mark..so again BULLSHIT to your whole story..
Like you know everyones finances in your city by the river to say that they could buy insurance and if they had insurance or not, but seeing how you are related to all of them they would have told you...damn what a way to use incest to try prove a point...WTF..guess its a southern thing
I may not know everyone's financing, but I do know what I see. A lot of them drinking beer and smoking every day. If you have money to drink and smoke every day then you have money to pay your insurance. Also, you are purposely picking a tiny part of the story out and ignoring the point. If you don't have money to live somewhere, don't live there. Also, why do you assume it was the south? You realize the Mississippi river starts way up north, right? I am not a southerner, and I wasn't raised in the south. However, everyone who read your comment saw what you did. You basically said everyone who is in the south is a stupid imbred. I bet you would get real upset if every time you said something that I disagreed with I commented "that is how (insert stereotype here) are".
So basically, you didn't respond to anything but Obama's 200 million dollar trip comment, and you didn't even respond to what I said. You created a straw man argument and then proceeded to not even win it. Good job.
I don't think people would generally buy pancake mix that said "Now with more real Asbestos Flavor!" and if they did... well.. I might send your family a card with my condolences.
There are still rules in the Constitution. Poisoning people is illegal. There does have to be some standards for food. However, when a federal organization goes and decides that you can't buy milk that isn't processed then there is a problem. There has to be some limit to the amount of power the federal government has. With the current government ideals on running the country it would be acceptable to outlaw apple trees to raise prices for apples under the commerce clause. I don't think anyone believes that is what the clause was for. There has to be clear cut rules and if you need to change the rules, then there needs to be an amendment. They aren't amending the Constitution, they are just ignoring it.
I was not born in the South, and I was not raised there. If our civil war discussion led you to assume I was a southerner by birth or rearing, well, you know what they say about assuming things.
Note you are implying that a lack of FDA is a lack of oversight of the food supply. You also imply regularly that lack of a federal agency involving a matter would mean no one is checking on it. This is incorrect. You realize there are 50 state governments, right?
They Constitution addresses every single thing quite plainly and simply.
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it (The Constitution) to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
If a specific power isn't granted to the feds by the Constitution, then they don't have that power. Thus, it addresses everything. In this case, it says the Fed Gov doesn't have the power to create oversight of things that they aren't granted dominion over.
The intention of the Constitution was to restrain the Federal government so it didn't become what it is today. There are 3 parts to our Fed Gov. Executive, Legislative, and Judicial. They made 3 branches that cancel each other out to protect freedoms from the federal gov.
The Federal Government is one of 3 parts of our country. Federal Government, State/local Government, and the People. Our country has checks and balances. Our federal government is currently taking powers away from the States and the People. It never gives any back. When will the federal government stop? When the state governments are gone altogether except as an extension of the federal government, and the constitution no longer has any power. Need I repeat again that the federal government outlawed unprocessed milk? They outlaw plants based on morality and no other reason. They make you get a permit to change your window or door in your house. I mean, seriously, how could anyone support what is happening when they KNOW that it is only going to get worse if they don't stand up to it?
The Federal Government is one of 3 parts of our country. Federal Government, State/local Government, and the People. Our country has checks and balances. Our federal government is currently taking powers away from the States and the People. It never gives any back. When will the federal government stop? When the state governments are gone altogether except as an extension of the federal government, and the constitution no longer has any power. Need I repeat again that the federal government outlawed unprocessed milk? They outlaw plants based on morality and no other reason. They make you get a permit to change your window or door in your house. I mean, seriously, how could anyone support what is happening when they KNOW that it is only going to get worse if they don't stand up to it?