First Grow - 2 x 1000w

Lanternslight

Active Member
Plants are looking good. You shouldn't really have been using veg nutes into flowering. It may have gave them a overdose of N, as this is almost unnecessary in flowering. If the roots are popping up from the top of the soil that usually means they are lacking in water (with trees anyways, my dad is an arborist and has been educated me on plant life). How big are the containers you have the girls in again? 3 Gal should be enough to take them to the harvest and they will just be beginn to fill the container, from multiple sources including published books and online. Have you used Hygrozyme? Besides Hygrozyme you could use cannzym, it does the same thing and is less expensive. hygrozyme is organic and a better enzyme but definitely a little on the pricey side. Hygrozyme and Miccorhizea is probably the best things you could do for your plants. Hit them with some Superthrive (if you haven't already) on your next water. It helps with stress they might have been going through. Well that is my two cents, sorry if I'm just repeating stuff you have already been doing.
 

Dubbz0r

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what do you carry ?
Smith & Wesson M&P .357 Sig Compact w/ Crimson Trace :D


Plants are looking good. You shouldn't really have been using veg nutes into flowering. It may have gave them a overdose of N, as this is almost unnecessary in flowering. If the roots are popping up from the top of the soil that usually means they are lacking in water (with trees anyways, my dad is an arborist and has been educated me on plant life). How big are the containers you have the girls in again? 3 Gal should be enough to take them to the harvest and they will just be beginn to fill the container, from multiple sources including published books and online. Have you used Hygrozyme? Besides Hygrozyme you could use cannzym, it does the same thing and is less expensive. hygrozyme is organic and a better enzyme but definitely a little on the pricey side. Hygrozyme and Miccorhizea is probably the best things you could do for your plants. Hit them with some Superthrive (if you haven't already) on your next water. It helps with stress they might have been going through. Well that is my two cents, sorry if I'm just repeating stuff you have already been doing.
Yea I think I screwed up by using the Verde into flowering. It has a N value of 16 but I thought I was dealing with an N deficiency for a while. It very well could have been lack of N but it was being caused by my ph being way off. They are in 5gal warrior pots.

I've never heard of hygrozyme or miccorhizea, what do they do? I do have superthrive but I keep forgetting to use it. It's stuffed in a drawer right now. I need to put it out with my other nutes n shit so I'll use it next time I water. Today I gave them their suggested nutrient feed according to the HB feed chart. Now that my soils ph is dialed in to 6.5 I'm thinking that everything will start falling into place. Dude, if you knew how many times I've repeated myself in my journal...LOL What's crazy is that I end up repeating stuff that I had just posted hours earlier but nobody ever scrolls up or checks the page before lol. I don't mind though. It's my grow so I'll put in the extra work for you guys to follow along :) I appreciate all opinions and comments bro! even if it's the same stuff repeated
 

Dubbz0r

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I'm off to the police station to turn myself in!! Stupid police around here don't know when to give it up... They didn't find me guilty 4 months ago and they won't find me guilty this time around either these fucks. I will explain later if anyone is interested lol Laaaaaaaaaaate
 

bekindbud

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Plants are looking good. You shouldn't really have been using veg nutes into flowering. It may have gave them a overdose of N, as this is almost unnecessary in flowering. If the roots are popping up from the top of the soil that usually means they are lacking in water (with trees anyways, my dad is an arborist and has been educated me on plant life). How big are the containers you have the girls in again? 3 Gal should be enough to take them to the harvest and they will just be beginn to fill the container, from multiple sources including published books and online. Have you used Hygrozyme? Besides Hygrozyme you could use cannzym, it does the same thing and is less expensive. hygrozyme is organic and a better enzyme but definitely a little on the pricey side. Hygrozyme and Miccorhizea is probably the best things you could do for your plants. Hit them with some Superthrive (if you haven't already) on your next water. It helps with stress they might have been going through. Well that is my two cents, sorry if I'm just repeating stuff you have already been doing.
I got some Hygrozyme its pricey but works great especially during the heat.....I paid $23.00 for 17oz bottle...Yeah expensive but works wonders in my Hydro grow...Keeps my roots healthy, just keep in mind it doesnt mix well with Peroxide. If you ever use it dont mix the two!!! Nice 357..I got a sig sauer pro 9. I go shooting all the time at the range here....Great way to kill off stress!!!

Good info Lantern!!!

Peace

BKB
 

C.Indica

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What the fuck?
It was 10 in the morning, hope you're not pissed.
How's things?
You are medical aren't you?

Using Veg nutes for the first week or two of flowering helps reduce stretch.
 

Lanternslight

Active Member
Had a whole things typed and hit the back button somehow....

Hygrozyme breaks down old roots, aerates your soil in doing so, converts those old roots back into sugars and nutrients your plant then uses again.


Mycorrhizal fungi populate the area around a plant’s roots and form very thin filaments, adding to the length and efficiency of a plant’s roots. It’s actually like having a second set of roots for the plants. Plants, trees, and shrubs with a well established root system are better able to survive things like droughts and transplant shock. They also absorb more nutrients from the soil.

Plants with mycorrhizal fungi can survive better in their non-native environments. Mycorrhizal fungi boost a plant’s immune system, making them resistant to soil-borne pathogens. On top of it all, they help keep those pesky parasitic nematodes away.
 

greenyield

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hey dubb, when i have used 15 litre pots in the past i only used to water them once every 5 or 6 days with about 1000ml of nutrient solution and a ph of 6.4 in soil.


if you are not letting the pots dry out enough between watering's then the roots wont be able to take in enough air and the leaves will curl downwards and get brown on the ends.
their could also be a problem with your ph fluctuating too far out of the plants range for nutrient uptake.
i would let the pots dry out until they are quite light to pick up and then water with 1000ml to 2000ml with a ph of 6.4 and nutrient strength of 1.2ec to 1.4 ec and catch some runoff to check the ph and ec strength.
 

Shwagbag

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hey dubb, when i have used 15 litre pots in the past i only used to water them once every 5 or 6 days with about 1000ml of nutrient solution and a ph of 6.4 in soil.


if you are not letting the pots dry out enough between watering's then the roots wont be able to take in enough air and the leaves will curl downwards and get brown on the ends.
their could also be a problem with your ph fluctuating too far out of the plants range for nutrient uptake.
i would let the pots dry out until they are quite light to pick up and then water with 1000ml to 2000ml with a ph of 6.4 and nutrient strength of 1.2ec to 1.4 ec and catch some runoff to check the ph and ec strength.
Good advice, overwatering can cause "eagle claw". I let my flowering plants dry out pretty good, weight check is the best method for me.
 

Dubbz0r

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I got some Hygrozyme its pricey but works great especially during the heat.....I paid $23.00 for 17oz bottle...Yeah expensive but works wonders in my Hydro grow...Keeps my roots healthy, just keep in mind it doesnt mix well with Peroxide. If you ever use it dont mix the two!!! Nice 357..I got a sig sauer pro 9. I go shooting all the time at the range here....Great way to kill off stress!!!

Good info Lantern!!!

Peace

BKB
I haven't used peroxide in a few days. If I picked up a bottle of hygrozyme I could still use it, just not in the same feeding. This It's 86 in their room right now and the lights are off. I wonder how relieved I would feel if I shot a few rounds into this shitty a/c unit I paid 50 bucks for lol

Thanks man I love this gun. It goes with me everywhere. Sigs are nice quality guns that are always fun to shoot. I think yours is a bit big to carry though right? Well, no pistol is too big to carry...lol When my house was robbed a few years ago they took all 4 of my guns. They got my 30-06 w/scope that I used once for deer season. A S&W .40 semi auto half plastic half steel, didn't much care for it. They took my single shot 20 gauge shotgun that my grandfather gave me. That was irreplaceable ..my baby though........it was a Taurus .357 Magnum Titanium 6 shot revolver w/2" barrel. It was blue, so sick... Had it loaded under my mattress. I came home and saw my door open. I ran my ass down the street and called 911 lol. They had a loaded .357 magnum. I had insurance. haha sorry for rambling there, I'm pretty baked.

What the fuck?
It was 10 in the morning, hope you're not pissed.
How's things?
You are medical aren't you?

Using Veg nutes for the first week or two of flowering helps reduce stretch.
What the fuck? lol 10 in the morning? Help me out here bro. I'm baked and I should probably understand that, but I don't haha
Things are ok I guess. Waiting on my boy to bring me some boxes so I can start packing.
Yes, I am medical but not the patient.
I didn't know that about veg nutes. I've been following the HB feed chart which has the three part system going from start to finish.

Had a whole things typed and hit the back button somehow....

Hygrozyme breaks down old roots, aerates your soil in doing so, converts those old roots back into sugars and nutrients your plant then uses again.


Mycorrhizal fungi populate the area around a plant’s roots and form very thin filaments, adding to the length and efficiency of a plant’s roots. It’s actually like having a second set of roots for the plants. Plants, trees, and shrubs with a well established root system are better able to survive things like droughts and transplant shock. They also absorb more nutrients from the soil.

Plants with mycorrhizal fungi can survive better in their non-native environments. Mycorrhizal fungi boost a plant’s immune system, making them resistant to soil-borne pathogens. On top of it all, they help keep those pesky parasitic nematodes away.
Wow LL. I never heard of either of those but I am damn sure glad you told me. The hydro store I go to must have it. Wednesday I planned on going there so I'll check it out. On a few of my plants the roots are on the top of the soil so I'll do anything to help them. Do most people in soil use this??

ok dubbz got booked WTF?
Almost a year ago a city nearby sent me 4 traffic tickets in the mail. They accused me of some BS, running from the police, reckless driving, no proof of insurance and speeding in a construction zone while on my bike. I took it to court and it was dismissed without prejudice, meaning they could reopen it again if more evidence was provided. As far as I know they had 'two witness'' but neither showed up to court the last FIVE fucking times I went. Last week I got those 4 tickets in the mail again. Today I went and spoke to an attorney that knows the compliant officer and he was kinda laughing. He told me 1500 dollars over the phone. Once I talked to him in person and he heard what's going on he said he'd do it for 750. I told him from what he's telling me it sounds like I could waltz in there myself and have it dropped, since they literally have nothing to prove it was me. It was 12:35 am. My plate number wasn't on the original tickets they sent last year but it was on the ones I got last week. On my way out of the office he told me he'd do it for $500 lol he knows I could do it myself and I do to but I might pay him the 500 to get it over quickly. We'll see what happens... waiting for a court date in the mail.

hey dubb, when i have used 15 litre pots in the past i only used to water them once every 5 or 6 days with about 1000ml of nutrient solution and a ph of 6.4 in soil.


if you are not letting the pots dry out enough between watering's then the roots wont be able to take in enough air and the leaves will curl downwards and get brown on the ends.
their could also be a problem with your ph fluctuating too far out of the plants range for nutrient uptake.
i would let the pots dry out until they are quite light to pick up and then water with 1000ml to 2000ml with a ph of 6.4 and nutrient strength of 1.2ec to 1.4 ec and catch some runoff to check the ph and ec strength.
My run off has been 6.5 for about 6 days. Before that it was all over the place. I only had a two prong ph tester. The thing is garbage so my ph was off since the beginning. Recently I picked up a digital ph tester that is helping a lot.

My room is running an average of 89F with lights on.
I try to water my plants when they tell me to. The pots are super light and their leaves droop. The biggest sign for me is the lower branches start to sag a little bit just before the leaves do. Between that and my pots being light, that's just about everyday lately. I watered about 5 hours before lights off last night. I may leave them until tomorrow unless they need it sooner. Letting the entire plant droop is not good for them. If I didn't water everyday or every other they would fall over :)


Sorry such a long post but I tried to be as short as possible... if ya made it through then thanks! :eyesmoke:
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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Hi Dubbzy, i hope your well. Im sorry, but i missed your lights on and off times. I find it very very useful during the summertime with heat issues to have my lights on at night. So right now my lights go on at 630 pm and off at 630 am. I have no overheating issues whatsoever. If you need to switch your times, it should be ok. I did that a couple times in the middles of my last grow with no stress to my plant. Just remember ... if and when you change their light schedule that they get more darkness than light! :joint:

I will be looking forward to some more delicious budporn soon! take care, Amber:peace:
 

Dubbz0r

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DAT, thanks for stopping by! Unfortunately there's not a whole lot I can do about my heat issue. My cycle runs 12am to 12pm but theey problem is my basement. It gets so hot down there that the air being used by my inline fan is hot. It's not doing much to help the temp of the room. It's probably not good for my bulbs either. Actually I have an idea I'm going to try right now. Will report later.

I'll grab some new pics in the next day or so. I'm still waiting for more trichomes! Those make for the best bud porn.
 

ru4r34l

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Dubbz0r I do not see why you cannot move your light on time to run mostly at night, 12am to 12pm seems like your running your lamps and missing at least 4 hours (between 8 -12) where your basement should be cooled down.

regards,
 

C.Indica

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I run about 10pm-10am,
the lights turn on just as the afternoon heat is floating away, and go off right when the morning sun is heating things up.
 

Lanternslight

Active Member
I run about 10pm-10am,
the lights turn on just as the afternoon heat is floating away, and go off right when the morning sun is heating things up.
This sounds like the timing I need, as of now the heat doesn't dwindled til around 9 or so. Right now, I have my girls on 6pm to 6 am. I was thinking in the same lines as you. I will definitely see how 10-10 works on the next cycle.
 

bekindbud

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Had a whole things typed and hit the back button somehow....

Hygrozyme breaks down old roots, aerates your soil in doing so, converts those old roots back into sugars and nutrients your plant then uses again.


Mycorrhizal fungi populate the area around a plant’s roots and form very thin filaments, adding to the length and efficiency of a plant’s roots. It’s actually like having a second set of roots for the plants. Plants, trees, and shrubs with a well established root system are better able to survive things like droughts and transplant shock. They also absorb more nutrients from the soil.

Plants with mycorrhizal fungi can survive better in their non-native environments. Mycorrhizal fungi boost a plant’s immune system, making them resistant to soil-borne pathogens. On top of it all, they help keep those pesky parasitic nematodes away.
Here is a great link for roots...A must read IMO!!!! http://www.igrowhydro.com/infosheets/InfoSheet-HealthyRoots.pdf

Peace

BKB
 

Dubbz0r

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Dubbz0r I do not see why you cannot move your light on time to run mostly at night, 12am to 12pm seems like your running your lamps and missing at least 4 hours (between 8 -12) where your basement should be cooled down.

regards,
These plants will be moving out of here in the next few days so I'm not going to change anything. Once they're in their new home it will be air conditioned so the temp in their room will be much more controllable. Too much other stuff going on at the moment to really play around with my cycle time. The last thing I need to do is screw that up and revert them back into veg for trying to get a 2 degree temp difference. The temp in my basement is ridiculous anytime of the day. As long as my a/c unit's ass end is hanging out into the basement it will be hot as hell. I will keep this in mind when starting my next grow.
 
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