400W, 5 Plants, Indoor, First Grow

alotaball

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he said poo .... LOL.

Lantern I hope I can succeed with this hydro expermiment... I hate dealing with soil in my room.... just a mess when its in your house.. and it always invites pest.. But i love the flavor from soil ... so I dont think I can ever get away from it completely.. but it would be nice to do all hydro then maybe one special one in soil with organics :)
 

Lanternslight

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I will start doing soil again when I can do it large and the way nature intended it...In a biodome type greenhouse...

I love the taste of outdoor. I don't love how they, to me, appear ravaged. No pretty trichomes and hairs, like you might find on hydro. Not that I am getting into a soil vs. hydro debate. They both have plus and minus to them. I prefer for my hobby to be hydro growing at the moment is all.
 

steeZz

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Damn I love having three pages to read on my thread when I wake up.

I agree with everything and think hydro is the way to go.. I'm probably just gonna follow alotaballs exact footsteps, finish this shit up, get another batch going [but im gonna spend alot of time ordering pest control items online] and do some hydro on the side. I think my Northern Lights is almost finished, i might be trippin but like I said it looks like its 6 weeks along on other peoples grow.. gonna check how long it normally takes these plants to flower.

 

Lanternslight

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How long has it been flowering total? I feel like it is only halfway through it's cycle. Everywhere I am reading says ~49 days. Including Sensi Seeds apparently. That baby might be done, can you get a pic of the trichomes? Maybe, borrow someone's digital camera for a close up. Try to get the magnification in there. Are they 50% amber?
 

Mr.Natural

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Try a quick dried test bud...probably too early though. Whew hoo.....first chop ......very cool....hang in there. How are you gonna dry?
 

steeZz

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I think i'm just going to get a tote thingy and hang up strings then put the lid on and keep it above my baby veg tent.
I'll get a picture up in the morning wont be able to get one before lights off.
It's been officially a month, or 31 days actually... so i'm guessing maybe like 2 more weeks. it's the first thing i've seen that actually resembles a nug you know?
This will be good to harvest her so quick, more light and space for the others.
 

alotaball

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Steez when you try a sample when harvest time gets closer.. just take a bud.. chop it with some scissors and put it on top of your ballast for a few hours.. that the quickest easiest way i have found atleast.. I start sampling around week 8.. just to get the high I want.
 

steeZz

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AHHHHHHHHHH, I dont want to sample themmm ! where would I cut it off, the undergrowth? or the colas?
im nervous. I think i'll wait a week before I do any of that just because I just gave her nutes, so i want to flush once before I cut.

It seems like the master bubba / desert dream are slowly slowly growing, but the northern just took off since the last time I gave her nutes since it was a full dose of micro/bloom and no nitrogen.
think i should go get that moab and start feeding it to her since shes almost done?
 

alotaball

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I would way till week 8 to start sampling anything .. and ya i normally just take a scraggler towards the bottom.. only to judge the high.. the taste ect comes from curing.. but you can see if its too heady or not .. how long it last ect.. if its not done yet .. it will have a short paranoid head high.. I sample to avoid that.. I like daytime highs so I tend to harvest kinda early .. but its a fine line of a good motivational high .. and a trippy short shitty high lol
 

Dubbz0r

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I'm hoping to harvest for the daytime high as well. Couch lock isn't my thing.

Take some samples steeZzzzzzzzzz




and send them to me! I'll test that shit out for you lol
 

Lanternslight

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I usually judge mine ripeness by the trichome. It works the same as alotaball's method, to gauge the high. If you want a more indica feel and you want it to be more "couch-locky" harvest when about 50% of the trichomes are amber. That magnifying glass you have will be your bestfriend. If you are looking for a focused sativa feel; harvest when the trichomes are milky white. Don't harvest when they are translucent, this is too early and they haven't filled with all those yummy cannabanoids. I feel like you can use that to judge when to start taking samples, as alotaball's method (IMO) will give you a more accurate measure of the type of high. I believe the fine line he talks about is that one between the translucent trichomes (short shitty high) and the milky-white, glossy pearlescent jewels(motivational yummy high).

To summarize, use your magnifying glass to judge when to start taking samples. The buds at the top of the plant will ripen before the buds further into the canopy. With the magnifying glass you will have a better perspective on where and when you want to take those morsels of all your hard work and effort.

Don't stress on it, you got this.

I can't wait to try that Northern Lights. 2 more weeks and you will be needed some hands on some scissors.
.....and that was the smallest BRANCH on the plant. The mother cola had almost a 4" cola. The prettiest smelling flower I have ever known.
 

alotaball

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I always check trichs.. my method was more to gauge personal ripeness.. A safe ripeness is 50 50 amber cloudy.. but certain strains are better at different rations.. a pure indica can be great at all cloudy.. but a sativa at all cloudy will just be a paranoid shitty high.. because the indica is naturally a more sedative high.. the cloudy just makes it a nice even high.. but if you take cloudy on a sativa.. u get what im saying

Same thing with a indica dom strain.. if you havest it with a lot of amber... some strains will have NO high really.. just make you stuck and tired... So its all preference.. Best thing to do is take a sample early.. check it with a scope.. write down the ratio of amber/cloudy.. write down your impression of the high.. then do the same thing in a week or 2.. all the way to harvest.. That way if you run that strain in the future.. you know EXACTLY what ratio you like YOUR trichs at for the high you desire..

PS .. sorry im PHADEDED lol .. stupid white widow hash
 

alotaball

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I feel like you can use that to judge when to start taking samples, as alotaball's method (IMO) will give you a more accurate measure of the type of high. I believe the fine line he talks about is that one between the translucent trichomes (short shitty high) and the milky-white, glossy pearlescent jewels(motivational yummy high).

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Exactly Lantern.. but I should of mentioned that I use my scope to know the ratio of my samples.. that way I can use it for future reference ... if you look in my journal that thing is always on the floor next to the plant im photoing lol
 

Lanternslight

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I always check trichs.. my method was more to gauge personal ripeness.. A safe ripeness is 50 50 amber cloudy.. but certain strains are better at different rations.. a pure indica can be great at all cloudy.. but a sativa at all cloudy will just be a paranoid shitty high.. because the indica is naturally a more sedative high.. the cloudy just makes it a nice even high.. but if you take cloudy on a sativa.. u get what im saying

Same thing with a indica dom strain.. if you havest it with a lot of amber... some strains will have NO high really.. just make you stuck and tired... So its all preference.. Best thing to do is take a sample early.. check it with a scope.. write down the ratio of amber/cloudy.. write down your impression of the high.. then do the same thing in a week or 2.. all the way to harvest.. That way if you run that strain in the future.. you know EXACTLY what ratio you like YOUR trichs at for the high you desire..

PS .. sorry im PHADEDED lol .. stupid white widow hash
I concur. Lol. (on Phadeded and trichs haha)

@Steezz; Harvest time is fun and also very demanding haha. I bet you are going apeshit with excitement and all the worry. Hard to take so much emotion all at once :}
 

alotaball

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Harvesting is awesome.. till you get done trimming all your favorite cola's .. then it sucks lol.. guess it depends on the amount .. but trimming for 3 days straight .. ya
 

Dubbz0r

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I keep telling myself that trimming will be fun... alotaball keeps pissing on my parade haha See I need guys like you around here so we could have a trim party or some shit. Trimming and smoking all night sounds like fun, but doing it alone does sound pretty shitty lol
 

steeZz

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Yea right i'm doing that shit completely alone unless lantern or alotaball come help me. You really think I can trust a bunch of desert rats helping me trim?
I'm from OC, regardless of who I meet here and who is my friend here I DO NOT trust them, just got iffy feelings about everything.
Only people I've been able to trust at all are only my wifeys friends, everyone else seems like they got a plan on their mind 24/7, if that makes sense?

anywho, I got new pictures of all the girls, except the seedlings...fkin forgot I had another tent >.< fuck! ugh stoner moment, anyways.
alright so, got lots of nice pictures of the NL... just casual pictures mostly of the rest of the plants.
I saw the hindu kush went 10 days without water, and was still heavier than most of my plants.... but I went ahead and watered her anyways.
kindof funny, 10 days without water, and not a single sign of underwatering or anything really... its almost like this fucking thing is a cactus.
Got some redbull to master bubba contrast pictures so you guys can understand how beast this plant is.
I swear, ever since I put the redbull in a 3gal pot it's exploded..... probably about 2 feet tall now.


will upload in a half hour tops after im finished sending them all to my email.
 

steeZz

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Most of these pictures are the bubba redbull and northern.

Heres a picture of the type of leaves on the bottom of the dream.
A lot less of them lately though, I think it was just from her not getting water maybe?
DesertDreamLeaf.jpg

Does the redbull look female? :P
RedBullday36zz.jpg

Shes getting fucking huge. Cant wait to harvest NL and put her in her place
RedBullDay36.jpg


Remember the bubba is in a 5gal, redbull is in a 3galRedBullDay36z.jpg

this is my baby :] I like shaking her gently by her main stem to see all the nugs all over her shake and wiggle. nom nom nom.
MasterBubbaDay32Flower.jpgMasterBubbaDay32Flowerz.jpg

Here is the northern :]
NorthernLightsDay32Flowerzzzz.jpgNorthernLIghtsDay32Flowerzzzzz.jpg

Bad quality, but still you can see the general shaping going on.
NorthernLIghtsDay32Flowerzzzzzz.jpgNorthernLightsDay32Flower.jpgNorthernLightsDay32Flowerzz.jpgNorthernLightsDay32Flowerzzz.jpgNorthernLightsDay32Flowerz.jpg
 
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