The Truth About Ron Paul - Part 2

hazyintentions

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the choice to run under the Republican banner...not a chance in hell in receiving the nod

The choice wasn't really much of a choice, he would NEVER get coverage as an independent. Besides he represents what the Republican party used to stand for so he is really the only true republican, and being as it's only a matter of time before the other idiots in the GOP become rampant mistakes Ron Paul stead support bases will only grow.
 

londonfog

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The choice wasn't really much of a choice, he would NEVER get coverage as an independent. Besides he represents what the Republican party used to stand for so he is really the only true republican, and being as it's only a matter of time before the other idiots in the GOP become rampant mistakes Ron Paul stead support bases will only grow.
so you are saying the Ron Paul movement is so weak that he can't get any coverage unless he runs as a Republican..in which he stills receive very little covergage..okay..well good luck with that..and I thought he was more of a Libertarian..I mean he did run as one in 1988 ... with approval ratings at a historic low for both parties this would be the most ideal time to give America a third choice...but you guys keep fooling yourself...please believe I'm going to rub this shit in when he once again waste his chance to become POTUS
 

budlover13

King Tut
so you are saying the Ron Paul movement is so weak that he can't get any coverage unless he runs as a Republican..in which he stills receive very little covergage..okay..well good luck with that..and I thought he was more of a Libertarian..I mean he did run as one in 1988 ... with approval ratings at a historic low for both parties this would be the most ideal time to give America a third choice...but you guys keep fooling yourself...please believe I'm going to rub this shit in when he once again waste his chance to become POTUS
When was the last nationally televised Third party debate? Did i miss it?:roll:
 

hazyintentions

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so you are saying the Ron Paul movement is so weak that he can't get any coverage unless he runs as a Republican..in which he stills receive very little covergage..okay..well good luck with that..and I thought he was more of a Libertarian..I mean he did run as one in 1988 ... with approval ratings at a historic low for both parties this would be the most ideal time to give America a third choice...but you guys keep fooling yourself...please believe I'm going to rub this shit in when he once again waste his chance to become POTUS
You make the assumption that suddenly the media will pay attention if he's independent.

YOU fail to admit that there is an obvious bias against him and his ideas in what is still most of the mainstream media outlets (yes you Fox news) .
The idea of freedom is young and I am glad to support it, if all you can do is find negativity from a idea supported by the coming generation then I feel sorry for you. I have hope that after many my age made the mistake of supporting Obama they won't do it again. Sorry if your old age beliefs no longer fit into the minds of the upcoming generation.

So keep saying the Revolution is weak, it doesn't change anything, Ron Paul is consistently polling in the low to mid teens, I would say he has a foothold in the GOP field. Your ingenious assumptions are more based on the resistance of the idea that people can support an honest politician than objectivity as for as I'm concerned.
 

munch box

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so you are saying the Ron Paul movement is so weak that he can't get any coverage unless he runs as a Republican..in which he stills receive very little covergage..okay..well good luck with that..and I thought he was more of a Libertarian..I mean he did run as one in 1988 ... with approval ratings at a historic low for both parties this would be the most ideal time to give America a third choice...but you guys keep fooling yourself...please believe I'm going to rub this shit in when he once again waste his chance to become POTUS
If anybody runs against a republican that would split the votes between 3 candidates. Ron Paul does not want to split votes with a republican candidate, Obama would win in a landslide victory. Thats just stupid
 

londonfog

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You make the assumption that suddenly the media will pay attention if he's independent.

YOU fail to admit that there is an obvious bias against him and his ideas in what is still most of the mainstream media outlets (yes you Fox news) .
The idea of freedom is young and I am glad to support it, if all you can do is find negativity from a idea supported by the coming generation then I feel sorry for you. I have hope that after many my age made the mistake of supporting Obama they won't do it again. Sorry if your old age beliefs no longer fit into the minds of the upcoming generation.

So keep saying the Revolution is weak, it doesn't change anything, Ron Paul is consistently polling in the low to mid teens, I would say he has a foothold in the GOP field. Your ingenious assumptions are more based on the resistance of the idea that people can support an honest politician than objectivity as for as I'm concerned.
please show me a recent poll where he is in the mid teens...hell he is not even hitting double digits in some poll 11 is the highest I've seen...so please show or link what poll you looking at
 

londonfog

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If anybody runs against a republican that would split the votes between 3 candidates. Ron Paul does not want to split votes with a republican candidate, Obama would win in a landslide victory. Thats just stupid
Obama will either go against Perry or Romney...which would still mean an Obama win...now if the Repukes did give Paul the nod..then we might have a race, but they won't so why talk about it..
 

hazyintentions

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please show me a recent poll where he is in the mid teens...hell he is not even hitting double digits in some poll 11 is the highest I've seen...so please show or link what poll you looking at
Polls surrounding the NH and IA primaries.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/nh/new_hampshire_republican_presidential_primary-1581.html

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/ia/iowa_republican_presidential_primary-1588.html

Sure his national average is still like 8.5% including polls from as far back as a year ago.
Why so indifferent to the idea that Ron Paul could be doing good?


Meanwhile you'll surely defend this

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/
 

munch box

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Obama will either go against Perry or Romney...which would still mean an Obama win...now if the Repukes did give Paul the nod..then we might have a race, but they won't so why talk about it..
I agree, they probably won't. But Ron Paul seems to be the topic of conversation throughout these threads. the same were to go for Donald Trump. If he were to run, by far the best way to do it would be through the republican primaries. Running as an independant for president, would be destined to fail
 

londonfog

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Polls surrounding the NH and IA primaries.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/nh/new_hampshire_republican_presidential_primary-1581.html

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/ia/iowa_republican_presidential_primary-1588.html

Sure his national average is still like 8.5% including polls from as far back as a year ago.
Why so indifferent to the idea that Ron Paul could be doing good?


Meanwhile you'll surely defend this

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/
Ron Paul polling at 8.5 is not good...what happened to the mid teens...and yes Obama has hit a low 43.7( for Obama), but it is not an all time low for a POTUS...congress is hitting at 12.5..ouchhh
 

hazyintentions

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Ron Paul polling at 8.5 is not good...what happened to the mid teens...and yes Obama has hit a low 43.7( for Obama), but it is not an all time low for a POTUS...congress is hitting at 12.5..ouchhh
8.5 is an average from all his polls combined, Perry's average is only from polls in the past month and he still hasn't even been in a debate.

Also note that about 80% of the country believes we are going in the wrong direction....
 

munch box

Well-Known Member
Ron Paul polling at 8.5 is not good...what happened to the mid teens...and yes Obama has hit a low 43.7( for Obama), but it is not an all time low for a POTUS...congress is hitting at 12.5..ouchhh
Obama's low was 39% Its only gone up slightly becasue he hasn't given a speach lately. But as usual after he gives his speach on thurseday, his numbers will go back down. When he proposes his new jobs bill, Our economy will most likely take another hit. As soon as Obama says "raising taxes creates jobs" wall street is going to take a hit, and stocks will tumble
 

londonfog

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Obama's low was 39% Its only gone up slightly becasue he hasn't given a speach lately. But as usual after he gives his speach on thurseday, his numbers will go back down. When he proposes his new jobs bill, Our economy will most likely take another hit. As soon as Obama says "raising taxes creates jobs" wall street is going to take a hit, and stocks will tumble
I'm sorry I already put you in the bullshitter catagory...unlike most on this, you seem to fail when it comes to providing sources or links...still waiting on that link that shows only senate approval ratings ( which are suppose to be lower then the house )..atill waiting on the link for the house approval rating as well
 

munch box

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I'm sorry I already put you in the bullshitter catagory...unlike most on this, you seem to fail when it comes to providing sources or links...still waiting on that link that shows only senate approval ratings ( which are suppose to be lower then the house )..atill waiting on the link for the house approval rating as well
F8ck you don't give out my homework assignments. What the hell do you want to see that for anyway.? whats that going to prove? I got proof that his approval dropped to 39% And his approval on handling the economy is 26%. hold on . you'll get you're proof.... douche
 

londonfog

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F8ck you don't give out my homework assignments. What the hell do you want to see that for anyway.? whats that going to prove? I got proof that his approval dropped to 39% And his approval on handling the economy is 26%. hold on . you'll get you're proof.... douche
you said it I didn't... so I said show me prove or you are a full of shit..so now we know that you are full of shit...I have found zero polls showing seperate pollings for house and senate...they are combined as congressional...so simple put.. don't just talk out the side of your ass...people will call you on it here...

The senate has a really low rating, Americans are still upset with Harry Reid getting re-elected I think. The house has a better aproval rating, but then again they have Democrats there too. So ya Congress has low numbers becasue Democrats are still everywhere in Washington. They wanted to show the American people in 2008, that they can suck at thier job just as bad as George Bush. That they have my friend. that they have...
 

Justin00

Active Member
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the same guy who wanted to let the economy crash and published a racist newsletter also thinks my wife is not to be trusted with decisions about her own body.

three strikes right there.
I'm not trying to argue with you, well maybe i am but I have a lot of respect for you Uncle buck and your guides and how you respond to questions, and i also agree with many of your opinions. but i would like you to defend the statement i quoted a little more. what decision does he feel your wife cannot make about her own body? it is about wether she can remove the other body from it (the child) who requires her bodys aid to continue to live, granted it only requires her aid for up to 9 months, and it is requiring her aid because of a decision she made (99% of the time). 9 months is not exactly a huge part of 80+ year life is that you could be expected to devote to saving the life you chose to make? i mean prisoners have to devote there entire life to answering for decisions they make that often do not require the sacrifice of another life, granted some of them have taken another life or in some way stopped it from existing, and they are paying there dews for it.... but nine months of effort is to much to ask you to spend ensuring that this life has a chance? sure prisoners choose to commit there crimes know the possible outcomes, but i bet most of them don't try to get caught and have to pay the dews. i just saying if your gonna fuck you need to remember what fucking is, its making babies, if the risk is not worth the gain then grow the fuck up and start making your own decisions and answering for them. killing that baby is no different than killing a cop so you don't have to go to jail for a crime you committed. take responsibility for your actions and give 9 months of you life to ensuring that it gets one. There are plenty of ppl in this world who will happy pay for your mistakes and raise and care for that child and give it a chance at a life, there is no reason to kill it now just because you want to fuck everything that moves and never take responsibility. if having the baby is going to kill her, then that is the grey area i have no stance on, and actually lean towards abortion, i look at it like self defense, and we rarely consider it acceptable to take a persons life as a result of there actions.
 

munch box

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you said it I didn't... so I said show me prove or you are a full of shit..so now we know that you are full of shit...I have found zero polls showing seperate pollings for house and senate...they are combined as congressional...so simple put.. don't just talk out the side of your ass...people will call you on it here...
:cry: Are you kidding me? thats what you're bitching about? I guess if you can't find anything , then you can't call me out and tell me wrong then can you? You don't tell me what to do crybaby. I tell your mom what to do little boy. she works for me. If its so imoprtant to you, THEN YOU PROVE ME WRONG. and hurry the f*ck up. I want facts now bitch
 
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