Belief Without Evidence WTF?

[Finshaggy]

Ok but ignoring your beliefs, ignoring everyone's beliefs, who's to say god doesn't want us to be destructive monsters?

Christians. They say he banished the Devil. I know that's not your belief, but it is theirs. And mine (that he doesn't want us to be monsters, or is not conscious of us). And some other religions.

 

[Finshaggy]

I'm sorry I didn't see your proof. Besides like you any religious person can say they have proof, it doesn't mean it's legitimate proof.
If you have proof that time doesn't exist then you should be a millionaire for proving time is an illusion only. So your proof is nothing, at least no more legitimate than a religious persons "proof" of god.

Time is just a measurement of deterioration and light movement. And there is a chemical on our cells, and an enzyme on our DNA that causes us to age when we get older. Time is just a measurement this thing we call "years" or "age" and the movement of the sun, and earth.

 

[cannabineer]

... then you should be a millionaire for proving time is an illusion only...

Time = money, so ... no. cn

 

[germania420]

There's more evidence that aliens came to the planet and screwed around with our DNA to create us from basicly monkeys (wonder why there's a link missing... hmmmmmm...) than there is of a singular God, all u have to do is look at the most ancient of creation stories, the Sumerian creation story, which the Christian Bible takes most of its accounts of the creation of man, not only that but the word for God in the original writings is actually plural, but translation from language to language has dropped it, so basicly even the Christian Bible says theirs more than one God if read correctly, and u should find that interesting since almost every ancient and even most religions today still believe in multiple gods.

 

[Hepheastus420]

If I may add, there is no God, otherwise we wouldn't be here, he/she would have extinguished us when he/she had the chance. Humans are just plain, wrong for this world/universe.

Check this out finshaggy, he doesn't state a specific religion. So let's say there's no religions, no Satan. Why is this guy saying god would have gotten rid of us because god wouldn't want us evil people? It doesn't make sense, he doesn't know what god wants nor is he basing his thoughts off any specific religion.


The only way for his post to make sense is by putting "using Christian logic....". Then he would be saying using Christian logic god isn't real because he would have gotten rid of us already. But he didn't, so again, how does he know that a god doesn't want us to be destructive monsters?

 

[Hepheastus420]

Time is just a measurement of deterioration and light movement. And there is a chemical on our cells, and an enzyme on our DNA that causes us to age when we get older. Time is just a measurement this thing we call "years" or "age" and the movement of the sun, and earth.

Exactly... Time is a measurement, it's not unreal. Trying to prove time isn't real is just like trying to prove god is real.
And are you saying that since we age that is enough proof that time doesn't exist?

 

[RollMeOne420]

the universe was created by[video=youtube;hE_OehRLH3s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE_OehRLH3s[/video]

 

[Hepheastus420]

Christians. They say he banished the Devil. I know that's not your belief, but it is theirs. And mine (that he doesn't want us to be monsters, or is not conscious of us). And some other religions.

That is my belief by the way, ha.
But grannybonger wasn't referring to a specific religion. So using his logic I came up with my question, a question that nobody could answer.

 

[blazinkill504]

Time is just a measurement of deterioration and light movement. And there is a chemical on our cells, and an enzyme on our DNA that causes us to age when we get older. Time is just a measurement this thing we call "years" or "age" and the movement of the sun, and earth.

that measurement of deterioration and light movement got a name....time lol

Hey! What happened to OP Sativa? I haven't seen him post since his vessel was hit by a Glacier a few days ago. I hope he survived...

he sensed the massacre comin so he joasted lol

 

[anymouse]

Religious people are trained that way from birth. Once you're inside that delusion it is very hard to get out because you would have to use critical thinking and be honest with yourself.

 

[Hepheastus420]

There's more evidence that aliens came to the planet and screwed around with our DNA to create us from basicly monkeys (wonder why there's a link missing... hmmmmmm...) than there is of a singular God, all u have to do is look at the most ancient of creation stories, the Sumerian creation story, which the Christian Bible takes most of its accounts of the creation of man, not only that but the word for God in the original writings is actually plural, but translation from language to language has dropped it, so basicly even the Christian Bible says theirs more than one God if read correctly, and u should find that interesting since almost every ancient and even most religions today still believe in multiple gods.

Lol Christianity is like the target of attacks on religious people.
But how is there more proof of aliens just because the ancient people wrote it on their walls? That's not proof at all, that's like saying the bible is proof. Your post makes no sense, you claim Christianity is false by saying another religion is real, while saying because the Sumerians had proof and Christians don't.

So I'm gonna go carve drawings on cave walls of a eighteen headed gorilla, so that way hundreds of years from now people will be like, "oh man that's hard evidence".
Bah humbug to your post good sir.

 

[blazinkill504]

Religious people are trained that way from birth. Once you're inside that delusion it is very hard to get out because you would have to use critical thinking and be honest with yourself.

i really feel tho that people at a certain point in there life think about shit logically for a little bit when they're gettin older. some of them choose to listen to it, but most dont or try not to think about it that much until faith catches you.

 

[Hepheastus420]

Religious people are trained that way from birth. Once you're inside that delusion it is very hard to get out because you would have to use critical thinking and be honest with yourself.

Really? Because I was older (not a kid) when I started thinking about religion. I think rationally everyday, I question my beliefs, so why do you group all religious people together and say we are all delusional people? Many of us religious people think just as rationally as you.

 

[blazinkill504]

Lol Christianity is like the target of attacks on religious people.
But how is there more proof of aliens just because the ancient people wrote it on their walls? That's not proof at all, that's like saying the bible is proof. Your post makes no sense, you claim Christianity is false by saying another religion is real, while saying because the Sumerians had proof and Christians don't.

So I'm gonna go carve drawings on cave walls of a eighteen headed gorilla, so that way hundreds of years from now people will be like, "oh man that's hard evidence".
Bah humbug to your post good sir.

bro im fixin to blow your mind with evidence of how thats more realistic than any religions.....ima have to dig for some videos

 

[Hepheastus420]

i really feel tho that people at a certain point in there life think about shit logically for a little bit when they're gettin older. some of them choose to listen to it, but most dont or try not to think about it that much until faith catches you.

Lol, I think pretty logically bro, .

 

[Finshaggy]

Check this out finshaggy, he doesn't state a specific religion. So let's say there's no religions, no Satan. Why is this guy saying god would have gotten rid of us because god wouldn't want us evil people? It doesn't make sense, he doesn't know what god wants nor is he basing his thoughts off any specific religion.


The only way for his post to make sense is by putting "using Christian logic....". Then he would be saying using Christian logic god isn't real because he would have gotten rid of us already. But he didn't, so again, how does he know that a god doesn't want us to be destructive monsters?

Ok... Let;s say there is zero religion. God is the sun and earth. The direct things we see providing for us (I can describe god from a non religious aspect a lot better if you want). "God" doesn't want the "evil us" which is pollution, murder, weapons, all these things clouding and destroying the provider "god" would wipe us out. Weather or not we believe in "god" something is going to happen. There's always a bigger fish. And humans have been the biggest for too damn long.

 

[Finshaggy]

Exactly... Time is a measurement, it's not unreal. Trying to prove time isn't real is just like trying to prove god is real.
And are you saying that since we age that is enough proof that time doesn't exist?

No, because time is simply a measurement of that aging process and the movement of the sun and earth. "Time" is not a "real" thing.

 

[Finshaggy]

that measurement of deterioration and light movement got a name....time lol



he sensed the massacre comin so he joasted lol

EXACTLY. Time is nothing more than a measurement. It is not a real thing to be moved about in.

 

[Finshaggy]

Ok... Let;s say there is zero religion. God is the sun and earth. The direct things we see providing for us (I can describe god from a non religious aspect a lot better if you want). "God" doesn't want the "evil us" which is pollution, murder, weapons, all these things clouding and destroying the provider "god" would wipe us out. Weather or not we believe in "god" something is going to happen. There's always a bigger fish. And humans have been the biggest for too damn long.

And added to this. Even if something bigger doesn't come along, we don't know what our new electromagnetic fields that we created in the past 100 years will do, as a thin layer over most of the earth. The earth is bound to destroy us all by itself with natural disaster.

 

[Harrekin]

Time isn't real.

Time is real you mad thing, extreme gravity distorts time, thus proving it's existence