Scupra's first grow 4x4 grow tent 600w dual arc

jcdws602

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It's no prob.........Keep it off the dome.....the light doesn't have be right on them......just as long as it's no too far it should be enough....
 

Scupra

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Got that done! How does this look? My other hood is occupying my hangers so its a little ghetto
 

jcdws602

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Looks good just make sure it doesn't get too hot in there......if it does just move up the light.......
 

Scupra

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Looks good just make sure it doesn't get too hot in there......if it does just move up the light.......
For sure man! I just put the thermometer in their with them and I will check in about 30 minutes to make sure they are good for the night. About an hour before they got put in here I watered until very little run off. This will be a very good test to see how it does in their. I can't tell you how much I appreciate your help. +rep to you
 

Someguy15

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Hey nice strains man. I think the dome will help a ton while they are real fragile like this. When you go to transplant you will be fine opening them up to the atmosphere slowly. But get them transplanted asap...I find the tap root hits the bottom of the little cube within a day or two of them popping up and they have a slow start without medium to root into well. Don't wanna stunt them early ya know. Anyways I'll keep a eye on your progress, best of luck.

-SG15
 

ducedub22

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Here is the site - http://www.smartpots.com/buy-products - I am going to be doing a bunch of research tonight :) topping seems somewhat easy to do for the most part and I think I understand that, just not sure as to WHEN I should top them. The LST is what I really need to read about. I understand the process just wouldn't feel comfortable doing it yet because there is so many un-knowns to me. I can't decide if I want to finish in 3gal or 5gal pots yet, maybe once I see these pictures you speak of it will help make my mind up!
Nice bro...I took those pics for you want me to put them up on your thread or mine..? BTW I got a little antsy i ran out and bought LST supplies and gave it a shot...i know it isn't the PROPER way people do it i don't think...but hell with it i wanted to do it...i will put up a pic of my little bitch all tied up too so you can tell me what you think...
 

ducedub22

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hell yeah man, LST is the way to go. Id also do both, topping and some tying down. My last bush had 49 tops on it. DO some homework on it and itll make you a happier farmer ;)
Your setup looks great man! +rep!
49...??? 49 fuckin' tops on ONE plant bro..???? on the real..???? Dude what'd you pull 20 P's off that bitch alone...??? lol damn bro thats hella crazy...i would LOVE to see some picks of the Madusa lookin' biiiooootch...!!!! =-)
 

fatboyOGOF

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Here is the site - http://www.smartpots.com/buy-products - I am going to be doing a bunch of research tonight :) topping seems somewhat easy to do for the most part and I think I understand that, just not sure as to WHEN I should top them. The LST is what I really need to read about. I understand the process just wouldn't feel comfortable doing it yet because there is so many un-knowns to me. I can't decide if I want to finish in 3gal or 5gal pots yet, maybe once I see these pictures you speak of it will help make my mind up!

the meaning of LST is different for different people. there is the time consuming way and the easy way. the easy way is to simply take the tallest part of the plant and bend it over until it's pointing down. this willstart the multiple colas. wait a couple days and tie it down again.

as far as watering a teaspoon at a time! knock it off! put a reasonable amount of water in the pot and leave it alone for a few days.
 

jayco420

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the meaning of LST is different for different people. there is the time consuming way and the easy way. the easy way is to simply take the tallest part of the plant and bend it over until it's pointing down. this willstart the multiple colas. wait a couple days and tie it down again.

as far as watering a teaspoon at a time! knock it off! put a reasonable amount of water in the pot and leave it alone for a few days.
Fat,bird,beav,jw know there shit good. That's who I go to for advise. Looking great.
 

Scupra

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So when I woke up this morning to check on them the soil is still moist! Seems like the dome is doing its job. I am going to leave them how they are and check them in a couple hours to make sure they are still moist. My girls are starting to kind of make an arch at the top of them, do I need to support them at all? I am going to the grow shop today to get some pots but when do you think I should put them into bigger pots? they first sprouted 11/1/11
 

Someguy15

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So when I woke up this morning to check on them the soil is still moist! Seems like the dome is doing its job. I am going to leave them how they are and check them in a couple hours to make sure they are still moist. My girls are starting to kind of make an arch at the top of them, do I need to support them at all? I am going to the grow shop today to get some pots but when do you think I should put them into bigger pots? they first sprouted 11/1/11
ASAP get them into solo cups at least... then up pot later. Helps if you use solo -> 2 gal ->5 gal... or some variation, not sure the max size ur trying to go. Gets a more dense root system then going strait to a 5gal pot believe it or not.

About the support. When you transplant them bury the stem to about 1" below the cotyledon (round leaves that r first to appear). The stem will grow roots and it actually helps stimulate growth a bit IMO. Tomato plants show a similar phenomenon, you bury 2/3 of them as clones and they explode with growth.
 

Scupra

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ASAP get them into solo cups at least... then up pot later. Helps if you use solo -> 2 gal ->5 gal... or some variation, not sure the max size ur trying to go. Gets a more dense root system then going strait to a 5gal pot believe it or not.

About the support. When you transplant them bury the stem to about 1" below the cotyledon (round leaves that r first to appear). The stem will grow roots and it actually helps stimulate growth a bit IMO. Tomato plants show a similar phenomenon, you bury 2/3 of them as clones and they explode with growth.
OK I will put them in cups today then. Is it OK to put them directly into roots organic soil? I'm at the grow store right now buying smart pots and calmag haha
 

Someguy15

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OK I will put them in cups today then. Is it OK to put them directly into roots organic soil? I'm at the grow store right now buying smart pots and calmag haha
Yes. Low nutrient soil is what you want. Organics are good for weak seedlings because they typically are much harder to burn your plants with than synthetics. Beware tho, organics are slightly slower growing, rely on bacteria in the root zone, produce a better aroma/taste, and a lower yield than synthetics. Your other option is to go 'soilless' with something like Sunshine Mix#4 which is inert, then u buy a nutrient made for hydro like H&G Aquaflakes or Ionic and add that with your waterings. Your store should be able to advise you more on this.
 

BeaverHuntr

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OK I will put them in cups today then. Is it OK to put them directly into roots organic soil? I'm at the grow store right now buying smart pots and calmag haha
SHould be I just put like 4 rooted seedlings into fox farms ocean forest soil with the rapid rooter plug.
 

BeaverHuntr

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Yes. Low nutrient soil is what you want. Organics are good for weak seedlings because they typically are much harder to burn your plants with than synthetics. Beware tho, organics are slightly slower growing, rely on bacteria in the root zone, produce a better aroma/taste, and a lower yield than synthetics. Your other option is to go 'soilless' with something like Sunshine Mix#4 which is inert, then u buy a nutrient made for hydro like H&G Aquaflakes or Ionic and add that with your waterings. Your store should be able to advise you more on this.
Hell yeah this dude knows what he is talking about.
 

jcdws602

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OK I will put them in cups today then. Is it OK to put them directly into roots organic soil? I'm at the grow store right now buying smart pots and calmag haha
yes you can put straight into roots organic.....I start all my seedlings and clones in roots organic......I don't recommend transplanting yet until your seedlings root system is more established.....you can transplant but if you don't have experience transplanting you could have problems like damaging the small fragile root ball because I doubt that the root ball is big enough yet.......but if your heart is set on it make sure you water thoroughly the day before you transplant that way the soil will stay together when transplanting....
 

Someguy15

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yes you can put straight into roots organic.....I start all my seedlings and clones in roots organic......I don't recommend transplanting yet until your seedlings root system is more established.....you can transplant but if you don't have experience transplanting you could have problems like damaging the small fragile root ball because I doubt that the root ball is big enough yet.......but if your heart is set on it make sure you water thoroughly the day before you transplant that way the soil will stay together when transplanting....
he's starting them in the little cubes... they need to go into soil asap. Don't confuse him lol But I agree, after u put em in solo cups/sized pots let them be for atleast a couple weeks before you transplant to a larger container to ensure the root system is well established. Also don't forget drainage holes, always important.
 

jcdws602

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he's starting them in the little cubes... they need to go into soil asap. Don't confuse him lol But I agree, after u put em in solo cups/sized pots let them be for atleast a couple weeks before you transplant to a larger container to ensure the root system is well established. Also don't forget drainage holes, always important.
Not trying to confuse anybody....I could of sworn he said the soil kept drying out....that's why I was under the impression his seedlings were in soil not starter cubes....sorry....
 

Scupra

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Not trying to confuse anybody....I could of sworn he said the soil kept drying out....that's why I was under the impression his seedlings were in soil not starter cubes....sorry....
I apologize for the confusion that is my fault! I have a little seed starter kit from HTGsupply that I started them in and they are currently in. I just pulled it out to take a quick peek at the bottom and I can see a little bit of root! I just got home with some 3gal smart pots I picked up from homegrown. I already have three bags of roots organic ready to go. So just to clear up, I should transplant now correct? Thanks a ton guys
 
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