Don't eat a Turkey this Thursday and save the world!

budlover13

budlover13

King Tut
Dizzle Frost said:
No Probs, it was the way in which you went about it...i had to respect that shit :)
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Hell, i wish just being respectful would be enough to win over Ron Paul fans. It is more effective than hatred or bitching about the bias though. :)

i'm TRYING to live my life as Paul's message and my faith would have me do. Hard sometimes but VERY rewarding imo.
 
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mcrandle

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Canna Sylvan said:
Is that the bullshit they taught you in public school? No wonder you're so fucked in the head. The Leiden Separatists ( The Pilgrims) after no longer being able to put up with The Church of England set off to America on the Mayflower after their previous ship, the Speedwell, took on water and couldn't be repaired. After landing in Plymouth, the Pilgrims had a hard time. It took over three months until Samoset, an Abnaki from Maine, greeted him. At first he was detained because they didn't know his intentions. He finally was able to convince them of no ill will and the Pilgrims convinced him they weren't like Thomas Hunt who had earlier captured indians and made them slaves. He was permitted to leave the next day and returned with five other indians the next Sunday to trade. But the Pilgrims turned them away explaining they couldn't on Sunday their holy day. He returned the next day with Squanto, a Pawtuxet, who was captured by the English and explained their colony was once owned by the Pawtuxet until it was wiped out by European disease. The two indians convinced the Wampanoags the pilgrims were peaceful people who wished to sign a peace treaty with them. Governor Carver signed a mutual alliance with the Wampanoags and Massasoit, then he took indians hostage to show their superiority with guns. Later that day he also signed with the Quadequina. The rest of the tribes were so scared of their gun might, it prevented defection to other factions not aligned with them. For several months after that, the indians helped the Pilgrims til and harvest the land until the thanksgiving harvest feast. The indians continued to be loyal until the day Carver died, not much different from Stockholm Syndrome.

So you are full of shit. The indians and Pilgrims came to a mutual agreement out of fearing Carver. Not because the indians helpef the indians wipe out their enemy tribes.
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You still never stated where you got YOUR information from. If it was from a book, I can use the same argument as you, that it was a public source. SO HOW IS YOUR SOURCE ANY MORE FACTUAL? Care to answer that?
 
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mcrandle

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redivider said:
the spanish didn't kill off the native american population in south america.

Their approach was to marry local women, establish families and become a part of the culture.... that's why there's a large population of Spanish speaking meztizos in Central and South America....
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Tell that to the Incas and Aztecs who were slaughtered in the streets while singing songs and welcomed the Spanish with open arms. Assimilation is not overtaking a continent and forcing all those that live there to live under YOUR rule. You have your history twisted, or you don't know the meaning of the word assimilation. The spanish murdered women and children. They are NO DIFFERENT than the white man.
But the only difference between the white murderers and the spanish murderers is that it's "OK" to call out the white man. It's what you grew up thinking, so I can't totally blame you. But you are very misinformed.
 
budlover13

budlover13

King Tut
mcrandle said:
Tell that to the Incas and Aztecs who were slaughtered in the streets while singing songs and welcomed the Spanish with open arms. Assimilation is not overtaking a continent and forcing all those that live there to live under YOUR rule. You have your history twisted, or you don't know the meaning of the word assimilation. The spanish murdered women and children. They are NO DIFFERENT than the white man.
But the only difference between the white murderers and the spanish murderers is that it's "OK" to call out the white man. It's what you grew up thinking, so I can't totally blame you. But you are very misinformed.
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Didn't the Spanish use germ warfare as well? Thought i remembered hearing it. Guess i could Google it lol.
 
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Coals

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I watched this whole documentary. It was pretty good actually. Turkeys are definetly smarter than humans, but then again so are most animals.
 
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Coals

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patlpp said:
What makes you say that?
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Turkeys are able to live harmoniously within their environment. They also have built in knowledge of nature that is born with them, not taught to them. This is true with most animals. In the movie he reviews how he has been living in the Florida forest for over twenty years as a naturalist and yet at 5 weeks old the turkeys knew more about the ecological system than he did after twenty years of direct experience, education and research. At 5 weeks old the Turkeys were teaching him about the forest he had been living in and studying for twenty years.

Dolphins on average have a haigher IQ than humans. One analogy often joked about in the biology world is that if dolphins had evolved opposable thumbs they would be shooting us from space by now.

We are one of the only species that has reverse evolved. We have evolved from a species capable of living harmoniously within its environment into one that lives opposed to its natural environment. We have waged ecological warfare against our own eco-system for the last few hundred years. We have reverse evolved and turned into a virus hell bent on destroying it's host in the name of temporary gain/ease.
 
Anjinsan

Anjinsan

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Canna Sylvan said:
Why are you so cruel? I take back you being a caring person. What's wrong with wanting to protect the Earth for future generations the same you have now? Why is it hilarious people are starving but you had a tastey meal?

GMO kills. Monsanto and the rest say it's needed because it allows food to be grown in places you normally can't. But at what cost? The people in power are so scared of GMOs killing off the planet, people like Bill Gates have made the Svalbar dooms day seed vault contain unaltered seeds of all the plants around the world. But this could all be stopped by giving up your tastey meat lust. I used to only eat practically meat, but I wised up. Not just for my health, but to care for all creatures and be more economically kind. I haven't looked back since. I don't crave my past life. I instead am sickened at the fact the way I used to be.
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What you fail to realise is a very simple concept...ready? Here we go: The more food that is produced...the higher the population of humans gets. ALWAYS growth until pain. (pain being starvation) Starvation is mother nature's way of letting you know that there are too many of your species in the area already.
 
Anjinsan

Anjinsan

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Coals said:
Turkeys are able to live harmoniously within their environment. They also have built in knowledge of nature that is born with them, not taught to them. This is true with most animals. In the movie he reviews how he has been living in the Florida forest for over twenty years as a naturalist and yet at 5 weeks old the turkeys knew more about the ecological system than he did after twenty years of direct experience, education and research. At 5 weeks old the Turkeys were teaching him about the forest he had been living in and studying for twenty years.

Dolphins on average have a haigher IQ than humans. One analogy often joked about in the biology world is that if dolphins had evolved opposable thumbs they would be shooting us from space by now.

We are one of the only species that has reverse evolved. We have evolved from a species capable of living harmoniously within its environment into one that lives opposed to its natural environment. We have waged ecological warfare against our own eco-system for the last few hundred years. We have reverse evolved and turned into a virus hell bent on destroying it's host in the name of temporary gain/ease.
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Nothing you say makes any sense whatsoever. None of those "smart" creatures managed to do what we have...tripled our lifespans through our own research, hard work and collective intelligence.

The dolphin is intelligent? Then why do they get caught by the hundreds by nets? Imagine something similar happening to humans. Thousands of bats manage to kill off a bunch of humans by the bat's hunting techniques. WOULD HUMANS RESPOND TO SUCH A EVENT? Yes. A wholesale slaughter of bats with the particular harmful hunting techniques would happen...and very quickly at that.

Can a dolphin in Sea World, San Diego talk to a dolphin in Tokyo, Japan? No. Because they are too stupid to appreciate the
importance of communication on a global scale. Furthermore even if they COULD develop such a concept in their rubbery heads...they couldn't do a darn thing about it.

Animals lack the ability to change any environment they come across into one that increases their odds of survival. We take such abilities for granted.
We had air conditioning in the Roman times...dolphins still have to swim to new locations to get "stuff/be more comfortable" Just like they always have had to...just like they always will have to.

The chasm between our intelligence and theirs is beyond vast. If you need more examples...please use the dolphin wikipedia page on the dolphin internet.
 
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Coals

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SO because a dolphin wasn't smart enough to make Little Boy they are dumb.....

The "gains" we have made are temporary my friend.
 
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Coals

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Anjinsan said:
What you fail to realise is a very simple concept...ready? Here we go: The more food that is produced...the higher the population of humans gets. ALWAYS growth until pain. (pain being starvation) Starvation is mother nature's way of letting you know that there are too many of your species in the area already.
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How much of your own food did you produce for yourself this year?
 
Anjinsan

Anjinsan

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Coals said:
How much of your own food did you produce for yourself this year?
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We have this thing called trade. I trade goods/services for goods and services that I require. It allows me to
not have to do every single thing required for my survival...on my own.

But do I know HOW to grow produce? WTF do you think? Is this not a "gardening" forum?
 
Anjinsan

Anjinsan

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Coals said:
SO because a dolphin wasn't smart enough to make Little Boy they are dumb.....

The "gains" we have made are temporary my friend.
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All life is temporary. When the sun implodes...your precious little dolphins are going bye/bye. UNLESS
WE decided to save their asses by bringing them along when we leave.
 
Anjinsan

Anjinsan

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Anjinsan said:
We have this thing called trade. I trade goods/services for goods and services that I require. It allows me to
not have to do every single thing required for my survival...on my own.

But do I know HOW to grow produce? WTF do you think? Is this not a "gardening" forum?
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Speaking of trade...any examples of dolphins trading? They have the concept of division of labor down yet? NM that...do they have fish farms so that they do not have
to swim so far to "hopefully" get food?
 
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