How Many Of Us Are There On Here?

tet1953

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I'm sure there are cannabis seeds there. I believe it is a global effort, not just U.S. but I could be mistaken about that. Cannabis has so many uses as we all know that it doesn't seem plausible that it would not be included for preserving the planet's flora.
 

tet1953

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LOL have you forgotten the other uses of hemp? Building, energy, clothing, rope...wouldn't those things come in handy in an apocolyptic world?
 

Buddy232

Active Member
Well, landraces are definitely a crapshoot. One of the hottest strains on the canna-scene is a landrace called Alien Technologies and allegedly came back to the State's via the military, similarly to Cerberus' story about the origins of MOB. I have descendent genetics of this in the form of something called CosmicDawg which was bred by my buddy GorrillaGrower. He gifted me a couple to run in my first medical grow and think it was the best strain i've run so far.

OTOH, GG also gifted me a plant from Pakistani landrace seeds that ended up with nice bud shape and some lavender hues but definitely lacked potency. It must have had a good amount of CBD as it provided surprising relief for my knee pain, but i wasn't impressed enough overall to run the seeds i made with pollen from a Deadhead OG F2 yet.
I will have to look up Alien Tech! I'm actually excited to... seeing's you mentioned it's new and of fresh genetics, I'm hoping it's origins and breeding process have been well documented. ::Fingers crossed::

Your adversity with the Pakistani landrace is exactly what I cite with commercial breeders. Not saying you called it quits... I wholly understand the limited resources us home growers have in regards to how many plants we can run. However I'd except a commercial breeder to do the same thing given the first sign of uncooperation.

Hopefully now that there are many more people who are allowed the oppurtunity to culture and speak freely about the plant, more curious folks will say "what if" and revisit some of the ideas that put on the shelf!

Regarding your issue with that landraces potency. I read a paper once, I might have it saved somewhere to my PC. (I can look for you if you'd like.) Part of it described enviromental adaptations over just a few generations, and one observation was resin production (not exactly THC or other chem's but still). The paper cited the first importation of sativa's for hemp production to either Spain or England, I forget. After a few years of growing in the shorter days and milder climate the plants were more resinous, etc. It's all in the paper and a good read. Most of the documentation occured because they were angry (I imagine) that the plant became harder to cultivate.

Comming up with a sexual breeding program like that would be pretty damn intersting! Just run a tent of say 6 unsexed plants (and then 6 of their seeds) for 5-10 generations.

Too many ideas, never enough time.
 

Maine Brookies

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I'm not disputing the usefulness of cannabis. It's just that the bureaucracy of the US government has measures in place to prevent participation in anything that acknowledges its' usefulness.
 

Maine Brookies

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Buddy - the level of documentation with the Alien Tech gear is reminiscent to that with the Chem strains - lots of rumor - although the guy that brought it into the scene does have an online presence. He's very protective of the Alien strain and may have lost the original broodmother, meaning that the genetics only exist in descendants. I have to say that it looks pretty frickin impressive in all the descended crosses.

I would have liked to follow up on testing the cross but i've gotten involved in being a tester for breeders on Cannetics which has taken up all 12 slots for the last 2 runs. I'm debating about paying for a caregiver slot or two and upgrading my room, which would allow me to run strains repetitively for patient treatment while also continuing with the testing gig.
 

tet1953

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I'm not disputing the usefulness of cannabis. It's just that the bureaucracy of the US government has measures in place to prevent participation in anything that acknowledges its' usefulness.
Yeah..unless you are a big pharmaceutical with extracts in the regulatory pipeline.
 

Maine Brookies

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Zactly. Then you get cannabis extracts of a certain kind changed by regulatory process from Schedule I to Schedule III. Sativex ftw!
 

Buddy232

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Buddy - the level of documentation with the Alien Tech gear is reminiscent to that with the Chem strains - lots of rumor - although the guy that brought it into the scene does have an online presence. He's very protective of the Alien strain and may have lost the original broodmother, meaning that the genetics only exist in descendants. I have to say that it looks pretty frickin impressive in all the descended crosses.

I would have liked to follow up on testing the cross but i've gotten involved in being a tester for breeders on Cannetics which has taken up all 12 slots for the last 2 runs. I'm debating about paying for a caregiver slot or two and upgrading my room, which would allow me to run strains repetitively for patient treatment while also continuing with the testing gig.
I still haven't had time to look at the Alien Tech info. It's on my list of canna-priorities though! Chemdawg, the only thing I remember reading is something about a Dead concert - a bag from a hippie (from the mid-west I think) and a few seed's that turned into some awesome plants. I'm not sure if that is correct, the right story for the right strain, etc. I also have no clue about the post breeding efforts and if Chemdawg is just a strain or if a strain and a person or what. I need to learn more about this. As you guys have learned, I read a lot of peer-reviewed stuff and not much common journalism like the high times and blogs and stuff.

Anyways... what kind of online presence does the person have? I'm not sure how "protective" I'd be in regards to new genetics. Certainly I wouldn't want to distribute them freely to dillute future work - but I don't think I'd be a d*ck either.

You would really have to pay someone for a caregiver spot? Here in RI there are plenty of sick people who'd love for you to grow for them and if you are a patient, folks that would swap c/g with you - provided you were both working together for a common goal to help others.
 

Maine Brookies

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Obsoul33t had the original Alien Tech plant and never let out any clones at least clones that made it out of the Swerve/Cali Connection circle. I dunno if you'd consider it a dick move but now that the plant has kicked all we have left is crosses.

As far as paying for slots... i meant i'd be paying the State for my caregiver permit then finding patients to fill the slots so i can start the plants. Sorry for any confusion, that'll teach me to post after beers & dinner with my daughter and her boyfriend.
 

freelife04239

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well that is one thing i always hate to see. Its just a shame to see a great bread be lost because someone is greedy or wants the braging right, for being only one with the strain. I think any one that hogs a bread is a total tool. I know of a few people with blueberry bud here in maine that think they have to hog their tasty breed for blackmarket. It realy steams me to think about people doing this!!!!!!
 

Buddy232

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Obsoul33t had the original Alien Tech plant and never let out any clones at least clones that made it out of the Swerve/Cali Connection circle. I dunno if you'd consider it a dick move but now that the plant has kicked all we have left is crosses.
I just learned about Absoul33t, CaliConnection and the whole Alien Tech story/lineage! It sounds cool at the very least and a couple of pictures I saw of one of the crosses looked pretty radical. I didn't locate any real information though into it's development. Other than that it was brought home by a solider and now crossed with a bunch of different exsisting strains. I saw that CaliConnection has a website/forum... is there one big place that breeders hang out where I could do some good reading? (I know RIU has a breeding sub-forum. But we also have a sub for everything, which confuses the hell out of me. Hence me sticking to RI and ME. :))

As far as paying for slots... i meant i'd be paying the State for my caregiver permit then finding patients to fill the slots so i can start the plants. Sorry for any confusion, that'll teach me to post after beers & dinner with my daughter and her boyfriend.
No, call me the dumb one for not understanding you on that one!
well that is one thing i always hate to see. Its just a shame to see a great bread be lost because someone is greedy or wants the braging right, for being only one with the strain. I think any one that hogs a bread is a total tool. I know of a few people with blueberry bud here in maine that think they have to hog their tasty breed for blackmarket. It realy steams me to think about people doing this!!!!!!
Back in the day whenever I established a new species... the first thing a small group of us would do is exchange. No telling when an asteroid is going to hit your house! You will never get far in life by yourself, find yourself some real winners and you will all succeed.
 

kineo

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What's up?I'm in Western Maine.Hopefully will be a caregiver soon.I am currently looking for patients before I register with state.I am willing to deliver to patients in other parts of the state.
I have over 10 years experience growing mj indoors.I grow in soil/coco, using organic nutrients.I also have 20 plus years growing vegetables outdoors.I was thinking it would be awesome if I could offer my patients,free of charge, fresh veggies grown indoors(in a totally separate area from mj), and outdoors when in season.
 

MrDavis

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Hello, im new also. Southern Maine. Im a patient that will become a caregiver once I find some clones and get certain strains together. I'd like to have set strains for my patients.

I study medical pathology in my free time. I know a lot about curing cancers with hemp oil and many different diseases with it.

Maine is definitely a nice place to live compared to where I moved from lol.

Hopefully get to meet new patients and caregivers sometime soon.
 

cerberus

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how many cancer patients have you cured with your hemp oil? What other diseases have you treated with it? what industrial chemical do you use to create it? how long you been in the game?
 

MrDavis

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how many cancer patients have you cured with your hemp oil? What other diseases have you treated with it? what industrial chemical do you use to create it? how long you been in the game?
Unfortunately I haven't cured any cancer patients; However my mother has Hep C and for awhile has been using the hemp oil I was creating (Another reason why I'm in Maine is because you can grow for family members).

The method I use for the hemp is this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JChdk_5jqs

I use everclear just like the video. Naptha can be expensive.

Her viral loads were 300,000+ when we started doing the hemp oil and her viral loads have decreased dramatically (At least 20% since she started last year in June).

I have her taking cancer patient amounts. Though the issue is the strains I've been using were random strains due to the fact that the state I was in was illegal. Cultivation is a serious offense there.

www.greenpassion.org is an amazing website with all kinds of people curing their cancers/diseases with hemp oil. It's definitely a good forum.

Other than that I plan to be a caregiver once everything is started up.

Nice to meet you Cerberus.

PS: I like your drip setup you had created. I would use Honda radiators that were designed for the 92-95 civic hatchbacks. Get a radiator that is made for the DX model. They didn't have AC and the radiators are a lot smaller.
 
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