Simulating sun rise/set AND SAVING ELECTRICITY

[Thedillestpickle]

I wont deny that managing a spinning plant would be difficult, thats why I suggest it only be used for plants that are not being bushed out and growing tall and thin, such as a sativa, topped once or twice would still give you a good a good profile, at least in theory. To find out just how doable this might actually be, I would have to try it. This is my first grow however so I think Im going to stick to proven methods for now. Ive heard alot about this heath robinson, i will check out his thread as soon as im done typing this. Also you could do many plants around one bulb, but that would not be suited to my strain as it will likely stretch in flower to an absolute minimum of 3 feet even if its only vegged to a few inches. Because of the tall profile of the plant it will make good use of the light even if it is only 1 plant high and not a stacked vertical setup like you might use with more indica leaning strains. GPW isnt really my goal here, Im looking for good g per plants because I will only have a small number and not going to be doing cloning just yet as I have only 1 room to work with. Im trying to find a good balance between g's per plant and maintain good size and density to the nugs.

What are some of the problems that would arise from spinning a plant in flower?

 

[mccumcumber]

Really it's just all about being careful. I had a buddy this year who would move his outdoor plants around his backyard so that there was no shad hitting the plants. They fell out of their pots 3 times during the season...
and they still lived amazingly.
I have only seen bad things happen when people move their plants around and that's why i'm opposed to it. When there's a lot of weight on the plant due to the flowers there is more potential for hazard. If you're gonna move your plants be careful!

 

[Thedillestpickle]

Ok, I will be careful, every tip helps, as this is my first grow, Ive never even grown a simple houseplant in my life let alone MJ, so far im doing good with my 10 seedlings.

The plants will be permanently spinning on the platform, once they are on the platform I will not have to lift the pots again for the whole grow. I do foresee some issues with leaning branches bumping into things repeatedly and causing damage to the plants, but this should be manageable with the tomato cage/low gauge metal wire/zip ties, but I dont know for sure. The plants might bush out alot more given the 360 degrees of light and require alot of manicuring/tying back.

Cmon you must admit it would be cool to see?!

 

[mccumcumber]

Indeed it would lets see it.

edit: when it's up and runnin of course.

 

[Thedillestpickle]

yes unfortunately I have to find a way to make it run quietly first

 

[Indicator]

what would really be helpful is automatic dimmers on ballasts. since the sun gets "brighter" towards the middle of the day it would be nice if you could program say 1000w lights to start out at their lowest wattage and gradually increase till "high noon" and then gradually "set" as the sun does. so far as i can tell the closer an indoor grower can get to outdoor conditions the better, from there you could fine tune things like co2 or uvb, whatever your heart desires to produce the best possible environment for a given phenotype

I've thought about this one too. They have such a thing for people with seasonal affective disorder. Research SAD lights. They have some that simulate sunrise and sunset. They can get megabright... I wouldn't be surprised if someone comes along who has done this... they can be rather expensive however.

 

[Blunt Master Flex]

Interesting Blunt Master Flex !

For the record, my current grow has been on 11/13 (on/off) since Day 1 of Bloom.
Today is Day 26.
Never done anything but 12/12, so I am trying something new for the entire grow.
Plus I save 56 - 63 hours of light/money, depending on an 8 or 9 week Bloom.
Another thing, where in the world does the sun actually go 12/12 ?
That was my thought when I started 11/13, which is more realistic.

Man those saved hours of light go a long way don't they?!?

 

[Blunt Master Flex]

Some vert setups you really don't need to veg that long to grow a tree. MPBs get explosive growth, DD's got 42+ LBs from 10 plants with a 2 week veg time with this setup.

 

[Blunt Master Flex]

I started an MPB run and ended up getting evicted from my house in the middle of it cause my landlord found out I was growing in the basement. I'm a legal card holder but he didn't care, it ended up being a huge waste of my money. Close to about $10,000...the last pic is of an MPB room up and running, just without plants in there lol.

 

[SFguy]

interesting blunt master flex !

For the record, my current grow has been on 11/13 (on/off) since day 1 of bloom.
Today is day 26.
Never done anything but 12/12, so i am trying something new for the entire grow. me either
plus i save 56 - 63 hours of light/money, depending on an 8 or 9 week bloom.
Another thing, where in the world does the sun actually go 12/12 ? the equator
that was my thought when i started 11/13, which is more realistic.

stupid 10 character rule

 

[Blunt Master Flex]

Wish I still had that basement, then I could try this sunset test out no problem!
Now I'm looking to sell all the equipment pretty cheap compared to what I payed for it all. The A/C unit alone was $4,000

 

[Flo Grow]

stupid 10 character rule

The equator, technically is incorrect.
I was saying it in a general since that 12/12 doesnt happen with the sun like ppl think it does.
Growing 12/12 is not natural for MJ.
The ONLY place in the entire planet that ACTUALLY gets 12/12 is Middle of the Earth in Ecuador !
It is also THE highest point at longitude 0 and latitude 0.
My wife and I were there this Summer and there were no MJ plants around let me tell you.
Too many tourist. lol
So I came with the knowledge that 11/13 is actually more realistic.
Yet even after dropping a very well UNknown fact, someone or ppl will still try to argue against fact and not the hypothesis of 12/12.
I will never do 12/12 again !!

 

[Thedillestpickle]

wow thats a nice setup, what was that about 42 lb's from 10 plants with a 2 week veg? typo? 42 ounces?

Hey man that sucks about getting caught, I have a landlord too... I really hope I dont get caught, there is a water meter right next to the grow room. There is also a power box that is used by other tenants upstairs in this 2 story house/apt and there is a water heater unit. So hopefully he wont need to go down there at any point. If he does ill get a call 24 hours ahead of time and Ill just go shut everything down and make it look nice. fingers crossed

 

[Blunt Master Flex]

No typo, 42LBs from ten plants. The biggest plant weighed 5.6 LBs. Let me try to find a link...
Yeah medical Marijuana is fairly new where I'm at and not everybody agrees with it and my landlord happened to be one of those punk bitches.

 

[Blunt Master Flex]

Can't find the link to that exact grow right now, but here's one to a thread where he was trying to do a ten LB plant in his system.
http://www.thcfarmer.com/forums/f131/doubleds-10-lb-plant-room-test-29805/
Here's another link, check out post #73. Those are buds grown in RDWC and those plants are nowhere near the size of DD's plants. Hell the plants in this link weren't even grown in a vertical garden.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=7366&page=5

 

[doser]

obviously many people have considered this or at least are willing to discuss the pros and cons. I think some people are willing to spend whatever it takes to grow weed but some of us are concerned about the cost and I believe that this is the impetus of the idea. Saving on electricity could be very significant in a two or three thousand watt grow. I think that the experiment could be done with adding a cfl or floro in addition to your two light 2000 watt setup.
I would wake up and put them to sleep with the floro only and add one 1000 watt at say 10 am and add the other 1000 at about 11 to three then start backing off to simulate sunset. Sounds like it would work to me and it would save a couple bucks to boot.

 

[Blunt Master Flex]

Wow just went through that DD's thread myself and I had never seen that one! There was a lot of speculation that he wasn't being 100% truthful with his dry weights. I however am one of the people who doesn't think it's impossible. None of the poeple doubting him had any pictures of plants anywhere near the size of his, so how can you say how much a plant weighs if you've never seen one that size? They are comparing his plants to outdoor 10LB plants which isn't a fair comparison, I've never seen buds like DD's on outdoor plants. Talking huge colas that are all calyx's and pretty much no leave.
taking my own thread off topic, but everyone should check out the plants in that link seriously.

 

[Thedillestpickle]

HOLY SHIT DUDE... I never seen anything like that before... its gotta be his massive DWC setup.. huge root=huge harvest

Couldnt you make a DWC from a 40 gal storage bin you buy for around 20$? I might have to start realling looking into DWC, looks like it has endless limits for what you can do

 

[Blunt Master Flex]

HOLY SHIT DUDE... I never seen anything like that before... its gotta be his massive DWC setup.. huge root=huge harvest

Couldnt you make a DWC from a 40 gal storage bin you buy for around 20$? I might have to start realling looking into DWC, looks like it has endless limits for what you can do

I'm not sure of what type of tote you're talking about, but height is a factor normally. If you're growing trees then you want your mini res to be as short as possible as you will have plants over 4 feet tall + the height of the mini res and not only that but in RDWC the mini res's need to be raised above the main res, so they have to be off of the ground a little bit. Also, the tote you buy needs a lid that isn't flimsy or cheap. It needs to be able to support about fifty pounds without caving in.
Just a couple things to take into consideration.

 

[Blunt Master Flex]

Fifty pounds directly in the center of the lid that is.