Doobieus
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Take the weight and take away 75% of the weight, that will give you a round about dry weight. You lose around 75% weight with the dry/cure. Hope this helps.
250w HPS Club And Help Guide
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Sr. Verde
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Here is two reserva privada headbands after 16 days 12/12 under a 250w
journal > https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/485817-2x2x5-grow-lab-reserva-privada-7.html
journal > https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/485817-2x2x5-grow-lab-reserva-privada-7.html
frankcast04
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what up guys, i wanted some input on a lil problem i just notice , i been spoting tiny lil white flys in the flower room should i been worried? or should i just put some sticky yellow paper to trap them? i killed 5 and it didnt seem like there wosnt any left alive, i been goggeling this whitefly and i dont see much info i looked under the leaves for any spot or eggs and there all healty and nothing under the leaves.
Sr. Verde
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Yep yep! I try to push the 2x2 space.. This grow is doing well so far I can't wait for it to stretch a few more inches and then chunk out
.Yeah. Those are bad. You don't want bugs.
If you saw 5, then those 5 probably laid eggs in your soil or on your leaves... If you ignore that now youll have 20 more to swat in a few days, then 60 after that and so on
.This remains my favorite pest thread > https://www.rollitup.org/bugs/335046-grizzlys-guide-pulverizing-pests.html
from that thread
Prevent: If there are whiteflies in your area, sticky traps will catch whiteflies quickly especially if colored yellow. Adult whiteflies are strongly attracted to the color yellow and will fly into traps before flying to your plant. Yellow paper covered in glue or sticky substance would work as well.
Identify: Whiteflies look like its bitty white moths, the adults have wings. The easiest method of detection is shaking limbs on your plants, if tiny moths fly away from under leaves you got some whiteflies. Eggs are also attached to the leaves along the underside. These pests also suck liquids from your plant much like the spider mite. Whiteflies begin attacking marijuana plants from the top down and prefer to attack the weakest plant available. If you only find whiteflies infesting the top of a single plant, you've caught an infestation as it begins. Leaf damage from the whitefly almost exactly mimic the damage caused by spider mite attacks. The further damage progresses, the more strength and vigor the plant will lose.
The stippling and spotting on leaves damaged by whiteflies closely resembles the damage done by the spider mite
Eradicate
Repression: The whitefly is a difficult pest to control given that all the adults fly. The best slowing measure you can employ is yellow sticky traps placed around your plants then toss them when full. This will only control adults who leave eggs and larvae behind constantly, traps will not eradicate your whitefly problem.
Predators: Encarisa formosa is a species of miniature wasp that only attacks whiteflies. This small wasp does not attack humans and kills whitefly populations by laying eggs on whiteflies. When hatched, the wasp larvae eats its way through the whitefly, literally devouring it from the inside out. Slow and painful, just like they deserve. 2 predators per plant should do the trick if the infestation is caught before it becomes severe. Repeat every 2 weeks until 2 weeks after whiteflies cannot be spotted. Ensure you clean plants and grow area thoroughly if you have sprayed against mites or flies as these treatments will also kill this wasp.
Manual Removal: Perhaps Mr. Miyagi could catch them all with chopsticks. . . . but I don't recommend you try.
Spray: Easily smacked down with insecticidal soap, natural sprays, or pyrethrum. Prior to spraying, remove any leaves that are more than 50% damaged and burn them. If you can't start a fire anywhere, heating them to excess of 140F/60C will do the trick. Whiteflies die easily, however they lay eggs prolifically and love re-infecting damaged plant matter. Apply spray against the whitefly at 5 to 10 day intervals until 10 days after whiteflies have not been detected.
I hope this guide will be helpful in everyone's battle against the creepy-crawlies. I'd like to thank many RIU members who helped educate me about pest control, the growers bible as reference material, and lastly the cannabis plant itself. Mary jane, you bring all of us so much happiness. May we do our best in curb-stomping the little buggers that try to eat your face off.
-Grizz
Ladybugs. Epic win
Doobieus
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Lol why I almost cried tears of joy, someone else to help with Q/A's. At least I hope you'll be sticking around, pleaseYep yep! I try to push the 2x2 space.. This grow is doing well so far I can't wait for it to stretch a few more inches and then chunk out
Yeah. Those are bad. You don't want bugs.
If you saw 5, then those 5 probably laid eggs in your soil or on your leaves... If you ignore that now youll have 20 more to swat in a few days, then 60 after that and so on
This remains my favorite pest thread > https://www.rollitup.org/bugs/335046-grizzlys-guide-pulverizing-pests.html
from that thread
? Glad to have you Verde.Frank follow that post Verde put up.
frankcast04
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thanks for the info ill keep my eye open to see if i spot more, like i sed i dont spot nothing under the leaves they all look healty and i havent see any more whiteflys but i know what to do if they keep coming back thanks!!Yep yep! I try to push the 2x2 space.. This grow is doing well so far I can't wait for it to stretch a few more inches and then chunk out
Yeah. Those are bad. You don't want bugs.
If you saw 5, then those 5 probably laid eggs in your soil or on your leaves... If you ignore that now youll have 20 more to swat in a few days, then 60 after that and so on
This remains my favorite pest thread > https://www.rollitup.org/bugs/335046-grizzlys-guide-pulverizing-pests.html
from that thread
GreenGrower14
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Hey everyone, got some pics of the G13 Labs PE second shelf harvest. The uper colas were taken on day 59 and these were takin on day 64. so far i have 60g dry and in jars. and i have about 30 grams of sugar and popcorn going into the bubble bags. Enjoy the pics
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SmeLLyTreeZ
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Looking dank Green grower, +REP! PE I've heard nothing but good things about!
Verde, that was a clutch quote from you! I think you might of solved my problem, not only that but Grizzly hits it right on the head with them narrowing down a weak plant! I'm going to take a few pics to show what I mean!! I think I have white flys and there starting to infest anyway + REP to you too for helping me figure out my problem without knowing lol.
Verde, that was a clutch quote from you! I think you might of solved my problem, not only that but Grizzly hits it right on the head with them narrowing down a weak plant! I'm going to take a few pics to show what I mean!! I think I have white flys and there starting to infest anyway + REP to you too for helping me figure out my problem without knowing lol.
SmeLLyTreeZ
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I looked under the leaves and didn't see much without a scope.. I noticed a fly in there when checking everything and it didnt look like a white fly, more like a gnat with wings? Here's a pic of the little one with trouble any ideas? I was thinking some fly strips to start.
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cbtbudz
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View attachment 2004159View attachment 2004160View attachment 2004161first 2 pics are bluelarry 20 days into flower and last pic is power 8 days in.
Sr. Verde
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Those look delicous! I just ordered some G13 Pineapple Express [feminized]... How did you like the genetics? I'm going to start 8 of them in about a month. I heard it was a somewhat short flower, but remained strong medication with good yields. I'd love any information you could give me
.Thanks.. I'm surprised more people don't know about grizzly's thread.. So I'm glad to share..
Can you see the flies? Or are your leaves just showing damage? There are a few things that leave foliage looking like that. Like people have said here 2inches of sand above your soil will keep many eggs from thriving from many pests.. The water runs right through it but it's literally quick sand for the critters... If they are on your leaves neem oil is a good natural solution, as is breaking cigarettes up into water, making tea and then watering.. The nicotine won't harm your plants really but it can really hurt those critters. Different solutions for different critters - it's all outlined in grizzlys thread
. Make sure to read into the questions people asked too, some of the replies are just as informative as the original post.It's likely the common fungus gnat. You may see the same critters around stagnant water, or a sink that isn't used frequently (they will live in the drains
).. They lay eggs that turn into nasty fungus gnat larvae that squirms through your soil munching on the shit it shouldn't be eating..Though the spots almost look like a calcium issue with a little magnesium deficiency.. Unless you have been misting the leaves with the HPS on..
. Here is a thread you should bookmark, check out the photos, and see if anything looks familiar. It really helps me still. http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=11688
They usually come around when your a little generous with the water. Not overwatering per say, but just by keeping your soil moist. You can fight/kill fungus gnats by using some sand on top of your soil, or a nicotine tea.. Sticky traps wouldn't be a bad idea. Personally I use a small blow torch (micro flame, used for 'jewelery' or hot wands) and just fry the little fuckers if I know I have some. Obviously I avoid roots, and the branches and I don't heat the soil for too long but even when I get within inches of them with the flame their wings melt and they fall to the floor to die. Then eggs get incinerated
but yes there are natural, safe ways to eradicate 
.. as long as your killing bugs and not harming your plants your doing it correctly. Looks like a wicked sativa, that bluelarry I mean! Makes me eager to germ a dutch passion blueberry bean I have..
GreenGrower14
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Thanks bro yea the PE is awsome the uppers have been in jars for like a week now and i gotta tell ya they smell amazing already. Great strain to grow out.
GreenGrower14
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@Verde- id be happy to help heres what i observed through the whole grow
- The genetics are unknown as im sure you know, but whatever it is its dank. tons of resin, terpines that make your nose tinkle and you mouth salivate.
- she does great in SCROG
1) sort germ time- mine took only 3 days and they were in soil
2) fast veg - the pheno i had was growing about an inch or so a day
3) heavy feeder in veg once she establishes a good root base mine were in 5 gallon pots
4) Huge stretch when you flip the lights almost 40% of how tall it was currently, began flower once i filled up my screen which took about 5 weeks dimensions 20"x35"-SCROG
5) Slow to flower for the first 5 weeks then she starts packing on the weight hardcore for the last 3 weeks and ifd be surprised if she goes past 60 days cause my lowers we 20%amber on day 60 could u imagine the uppers at day 60 lol.
6) Dense nugs, she is a good yielder i prolly pulled 3 zips once everything is dried and cured all the way. the nugs dry but hardly lose any weight mine dried for 4 days then went into jars and were solid.
7) she is a heavy feeder late into flower and will flush easy if using chems.
overall id give this strain a 8.75 out of 10- great medicine with a delicious aroma, and rock hard nugs when dried, and tons of crystals ill let you know how it does through the bubble bags in a couple days the trim is freezing up atm. but i got about 2 zips of sugar and popcorn off of her aswell.
if you can think of anything else just let me know
- The genetics are unknown as im sure you know, but whatever it is its dank. tons of resin, terpines that make your nose tinkle and you mouth salivate.
- she does great in SCROG
1) sort germ time- mine took only 3 days and they were in soil
2) fast veg - the pheno i had was growing about an inch or so a day
3) heavy feeder in veg once she establishes a good root base mine were in 5 gallon pots
4) Huge stretch when you flip the lights almost 40% of how tall it was currently, began flower once i filled up my screen which took about 5 weeks dimensions 20"x35"-SCROG
5) Slow to flower for the first 5 weeks then she starts packing on the weight hardcore for the last 3 weeks and ifd be surprised if she goes past 60 days cause my lowers we 20%amber on day 60 could u imagine the uppers at day 60 lol.
6) Dense nugs, she is a good yielder i prolly pulled 3 zips once everything is dried and cured all the way. the nugs dry but hardly lose any weight mine dried for 4 days then went into jars and were solid.
7) she is a heavy feeder late into flower and will flush easy if using chems.
overall id give this strain a 8.75 out of 10- great medicine with a delicious aroma, and rock hard nugs when dried, and tons of crystals ill let you know how it does through the bubble bags in a couple days the trim is freezing up atm. but i got about 2 zips of sugar and popcorn off of her aswell.if you can think of anything else just let me know
Sr. Verde
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I love this website.. Full of so many nice people 
Pineapple Express sounds like a great strain to grow... And yes I'm aware of the 'unknown genetics'. I've had quite a bit of some good Pineapple Express flower and really enjoyed the strain. It reminded me of Maui Wowie but like less sativa.. Very relaxing and useful as a strong medicine.. I look forward to making butter with the trim . Back when I had some I rated it in my top 10 for sure.
As for #4.. What do you mean by 40%? Could you put it in multiplication terms? As in it doubles, or triples in height by the end of flower?
I was going to set up a big screen for it, and wanted to have an idea of how tall I want them to go. I'm currently growing this Reserva Privada Headband, and was warned about a 3x stretch, so far that advice is looking about correct, and I don't mind the stretch I just fill out the screen more.
Thanks
Pineapple Express sounds like a great strain to grow... And yes I'm aware of the 'unknown genetics'
. I've had quite a bit of some good Pineapple Express flower and really enjoyed the strain. It reminded me of Maui Wowie but like less sativa.. Very relaxing and useful as a strong medicine.. I look forward to making butter with the trim . Back when I had some I rated it in my top 10 for sure.As for #4.. What do you mean by 40%? Could you put it in multiplication terms? As in it doubles, or triples in height by the end of flower?
I was going to set up a big screen for it, and wanted to have an idea of how tall I want them to go. I'm currently growing this Reserva Privada Headband, and was warned about a 3x stretch, so far that advice is looking about correct, and I don't mind the stretch I just fill out the screen more.
Thanks
Matchbox
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Hey! Just dropping in as I'm considering buying a 250w Dual spec lamp with a cool tube for a parabolic ScrOG. My previous grows (majority of anyway) have been with CFL's last 2 grows were 250w, 2700k CFL's with 90w of LED.
My space is about 3.5ft wide x 3ft high x 1ft deep, got a tonking inline fan and carbon filter so extracting heat isn't too much of an issue.
Anyway to the point, in general what is anyone's opinion on using a 250w HID instead of 250w of CFL?
are nugs bigger, general yield good/better than CFL's etc, I know my lights lumens, lux and PAR but just want some more opinions from experience before I shell out the £ for the light setup!
I like the idea of having nearly double the lumens of 2x125w CFL's in one light.
Cheers guys!
My space is about 3.5ft wide x 3ft high x 1ft deep, got a tonking inline fan and carbon filter so extracting heat isn't too much of an issue.
Anyway to the point, in general what is anyone's opinion on using a 250w HID instead of 250w of CFL?
are nugs bigger, general yield good/better than CFL's etc, I know my lights lumens, lux and PAR but just want some more opinions from experience before I shell out the £ for the light setup!
I like the idea of having nearly double the lumens of 2x125w CFL's in one light.
Cheers guys!
Doobieus
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250 HPS will get you better results in my opinion, just get one with a digital ballast that you can keep outside of your cab. I'd still use daylight CFL's and the LED's as supplement lighting. Just my 2 cents.
Sr. Verde
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You'll wonder why you ever used CFLs once you fire up that HPS... The light is just better I think, more penetration into the canopy, and just covers the plants in bright light. CFL can grow some good bud but HPS is just so much easier and fun I think.
Like doob said keep using some CFLs for added light, I use like 60-80w of CFL just to light up underneath my canopy.. and use the 250w up top
Like doob said keep using some CFLs for added light, I use like 60-80w of CFL just to light up underneath my canopy.. and use the 250w up top