deprave
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Syncos,
When it comes to Ron Paul...this has been hashed and rehashed...They have NOTHING..that is just how it is on this subject....every argument or fact they present is de-bunked each time...All they have is their opinion.
Did Ron Paul Win Iowa, Nevada, Minnesota, Colorado and Missouri?
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When it comes to Ron Paul...this has been hashed and rehashed...They have NOTHING..that is just how it is on this subject....every argument or fact they present is de-bunked each time...All they have is their opinion.
sync0s
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These threads do go round and round. I wonder how long until another smart meters thread gets posted??
UncleBuck
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ya see, that's the problem. you are not able to accept certain facts, such as ronald's historical bungling of the newsletter controversy.
i am willing to say he never wrote them, despite the fact that he claimed he did during the 1996 congressional campaign. you, however, can not accept that he said he wrote them despite that it is well-documented historical fact that he claimed as much.
if you were willing to discuss the issue honestly, you would know that my main objection is not that he lied at one point or the other, it is that he surrounds himself with incompetent handlers and how that reflects on what his cabinet would look like.
UncleBuck
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if no one thinks he is 100% perfect, why are some people unwilling to state one area of disagreement?
the message of liberty is fine, but it would go better with someone with actual executive experience representing it. someone who did not scare away people like me with socially conservative stands. someone like gary johnson.
again, thanks for the insults.
UncleBuck
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this is what i call self-ownage.
if we have "nothing" then that implies he is 100% perfect.
don't you see how that works?
lifegoesonbrah
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Nope. He is referring to all of the false accusations that you have brought to the glorious Ron Paul thread throughout the day. You presented no logical evidence to your ron paul theories that you have posted today. Therefore they are you're assumptions. You got shit.
deprave
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You don't have anything bad because he hasn't done anything bad...like I said..all you have is your opinion..he is a good man of great integrity and incorruptible....these things are completely lacking in 99.9999% of federal politicians these days, most importantly t hey are lacking in every other canididate. You guys are just shrugging off felonies and shit lol really? And Ron Paul can't invest in gold....
abandonconflict
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Aside from the fact that he is 'perfect' does he have anything else going for him with respect to actually getting elected?
deprave
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Can you re-phrase that? If you mean can he get elected..that is addressed in first post and for the next 4 or 5 pages..
So don't read the posts and don't respond to the posts princess. It's not about you no matter how good you look in a tight turtle neck sweater
UncleBuck
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this is exactly how the politics section should be. well-crafted jabs taken in good spirit.
now that munchbox, jack fate, and especially dukeanthony are gone, i may hang up my moderator boots as i am not that good at it anyway. those three were poisoning our spirited back and forths.
edit: i do enjoy having the title "resident grammar nazi" though...
Yea but you're off base to say so since I didn't. You're just like him in grouping people without proper knowledge and ignoring the cause. I'm attacking any candidate and follower who believes in big government. Doesn't matter if its Obama or Romney, or Newt or Frothy. There is very little difference except in which group gets the special SPECIFIC favors. If you don't think so, you are lost.
I mentioned this earlier. Both parties supported bypassing the free market in the Housing market which caused our economic collapse and hurt the ones Congress said it was going to help. Low and Middle income had their equity wiped out. If people don't get upset at the big government control freaks they aren't paying attention. Both parties favor invading and occupying other nations showing total disregard for property rights. We are in more countries now than in a very long time.
Why would I help you say things bad about Ron Paul? I always defend the Constitution and small federal government. You're the enemy. You're part of the big government ones I'm trying to stop. You're part of the status quo that put us in this horrible spot.
Sooner or later you have to man up and admit Obama, the one you worked for, is a bad president. I commend you for getting involved at least. He's not much different than Bush. Both love bailouts, both love occupying other nations. Sooner or later you have to own up to the mistake of pushing for big government. No matter how much you believed in them doing the right thing they have never been able to do it for very long and very well. People make mistakes all the time. If you don't make mistakes you probably are not trying very hard, if at all imo. My mistake was sitting around for a very long time and doing nothing while my rights and freedoms were infringed upon. Bled to death and it took the economy going into the shitter and Ron Paul with his small government ideals, much like Goldwater back in the day, to wake me up.
Here's the thing that you don't get. It's never about Ron Paul, as he is human and humans make mistakes. If he were President what's to stop him from wanting to be King like the past presidents? The fight doesn't end with him as you always have to stop someone from taking what is rightfully yours.
We saw what Reagan ran on and how his policies changed once he came into office. Calling increases in Social Security, an insurance policy instead of an increase in taxes so he wouldn't go back on his word. He's a horses ass too, Fuck Reagan. His saving grace was being in office when the Berlin Wall came down and when interest rates were raised in order to stop the mal investment. Imagine that, the Federal Reserve doing the right thing for once. Even a blind dog finds a bone.
Here's another thing, if you want your form of government in your state, more power to you. Local control is best. What works in your state may not work in mine. Fifty seven states I should be able to find one that suits my needs the best. One thing is certain, I will never use force against you in order to make you do what I think is necessary. Only when you try to damage my property will I use force to defend myself.
Why wont you show me the same courtesy I show you?(except for the name calling stuff) Will you boo me too like those douchebags in the South Carolina audience who booed the Golden Rule? I agree with Ghandi, "I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ."
okay I'll try harder I admit i'm one of the name callers too. Before when you mentioned it to me, I did it for a bit. But just when I thought I was out, they sucked me back in.
sorry I jumped on Dan I don't like being called a cult member. I'm always in favor of the individual.
UncleBuck
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i was not criticizing you, i was praising you for your well-crafted, light-hearted jabs.
your name calling has toned down since we first started going at it. and you are always a worthy debate opponent because you are willing to break down a long reply and respond bit by bit.
no need to apologize for jumping on dan, you know how to defend yourself and don't need anyone to defend yourself.
I never said that I just don't like to help the big government enemy. On Federal government I probably agree with him on every issue, at least the main ones. Off hand I can't think of any. As far as local control goes I'm sure I'll disagree on some things. Remember because I agree with Ron Paul and want the states to handle things doesn't mean I agree with him on certain issues the states can make laws on.
Not bailing out companies, banks has worked in the past. Don't know where you get unproven rhetoric.
You bottom out, let the failures fail and hopefully learn their lesson, instead of prolonging the agony.
You're right, okay the hell with Dan. Thanks I feel better.
UncleBuck
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the feeling i get is that the people who regularly post here are all capable of taking an insult and giving one, defending themselves, not crying like a baby, and so on.You're right, okay the hell with Dan. Thanks I feel better.
until someone else upsets this balance we all seem to have, everything but spam and pornography is fair game.
by the way, pornography does not just mean naked people, by definition it includes shocking/disturbing images. that is just a reminder for anyone else who may be reading.
deprave
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Could you define these terms?