Did Ron Paul Win Iowa, Nevada, Minnesota, Colorado and Missouri?

It's funny, because each election people argue over who is best or better or would be better and more people should see it and he had a better plan for the long term, etc, and all that stuff, but in the end it really, as always, comes down to the least unacceptable candidate that actually stands a statistical chance of becoming a candidate.

That's what primaries have become more and more of, a blood-sport form of politics, and most people can find some valid reason to question or doubt any candidate, if they look at them all equally honestly, and it seems to end up the lesser of all possible evils ...... and then everybody gets behind them and tries to say how perfect the candidate is, like they never had any doubts.

So, now you have your candidates, and what are you faced with? A lesser of only two evils choice this time (not counting V.P. influence).

It's been so long since the U.S. has had a candidate that went on to not only win, but to then step up to the plate and hit a home run, that we've gotten so used to getting less return, that we've grown more and more satisfied with a low-return candidate, so long of course that it's 'our candidate', and our way of rationalizing who we support has evolved to being an option between Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dumber, that it more and more looks like it could be another lesser of two evils type of election.

That could play into Obama's favor.

Dan Kone said:

Don Black.

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Understood no one else but Ron Paul has ever had their picture taken with a bad person. Why else would you bring it up, right? Tons of candidates insist they have a background check done before a picture is taken, I'm sure. Your childish rantings have taken on a new level. Do the pictures politicians have had taken with dictators count or just the ones Ron Paul is in? Twisted agenda.

Dan Kone said:

"The notion of a rigid separation between church and state has no basis in either the text of the Constitution or the writings of our Founding Fathers. On the contrary, our Founders' political views were strongly informed by their religious beliefs. Certainly the drafters of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, both replete with references to God, would be aghast at the federal government's hostility to religion." - Ron Paul

Freedom! Fuck yeah!

I'm so happy that Ron Paul thinks I should have the freedom to obey the bible as mandated by the small government!
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So you are now insinuating that Ron Paul will push his religious beliefs on you? You shouldn't post quotes that you don't understand.

lifegoesonbrah said:

So you are now insinuating that Ron Paul will push his religious beliefs on you? You shouldn't post quotes that you don't understand.

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Regardless of understanding of the quote, Ron Paul is wrong. Most of the founding fathers were deists.

Let's see, do you understand how that makes him wrong?

Wow, for being such a constitutionalist he doesn't even know the constitution! I am not surprised. The mention of God did not occur in the constitution, not even once. He has to be the biggest con artist of all the politicians in a long, long time. Come on guys, wake up.

Catchin22 said:

Wow, for being such a constitutionalist he doesn't even know the constitution! I am not surprised. The mention of God did not occur in the constitution, not even once. He has to be the biggest con artist of all the politicians in a long, long time. Come on guys, wake up.

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In order to interpret the Constitution you must also interpret the intention of those who wrote it.

Parker said:

I haven't noticed a following of Ron Paul supporters who think he is correct all the time. So instead you have to lie about others.

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And which issues do you disagree with Ron Paul on? (and please don't say "I disagree with him being so perfect all the time", that doesn't count)

Parker said:

That's the thing about people like you. Always looking for a crack in the armor in order to make a big deal about it so as to deflect from your candidate who is wrong to often.
I got a better question. What issues has your candidate been right about and why?

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You are calling the Rawn Pawl a cult leader >> therefore I attack your cult leader >> typical cult adherent thinking.

Dan Kone isn't pushing a candidate, he is only pointing out how much of a follower you are. Just because you're a fanboy doesn't mean everyone is. I know you need something to believe in though so here you go.

lifegoesonbrah said:

So you are now insinuating that Ron Paul will push his religious beliefs on you? You shouldn't post quotes that you don't understand.

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I understand he doesn't believe in the separation of church and state. I thought that was pretty clear.

abandonconflict said:

Dan Kone isn't pushing a candidate, he is only pointing out how much of a follower you are.

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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Exactly. The candidate I'm voting for is a total piece of shit and I have no interest in pushing him on anyone. He just happens to represent my interests very very slightly better than the other total pieces of shit running.

Inspiring stuff right?[/FONT]

Dan Kone said:

Exactly. The candidate I'm voting for is a total piece of shit and I have no interest in pushing him on anyone. He just happens to represent my interests very very slightly better than the other total pieces of shit running.

Inspiring stuff right?

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I'm voting against the GOP.

Parker said:

That's the thing about people like you. Always looking for a crack in the armor in order to make a big deal about it so as to deflect from your candidate who is wrong to often.

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So you can't name an issue where you disagree with Ron Paul on. I bet it's relaxing not having to think for yourself.

I got a better question. What issues has your candidate been right about and why?

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That's a tuff one. Not many. I liked the stimulus and the jobs plan because I believe in the historically proven model of stabilizing a bad economy rather than unproven rhetoric. But then again the stimulus wasn't big enough to have the proper effect and he hasn't been able to pass much of the jobs plan.

Mainly I just like the fact that he's not Mitt Romney or Newt Gingrich. If there was a more moderate republican in the race I'd vote republican.

Dan Kone said:

Exactly. The candidate I'm voting for is a total piece of shit and I have no interest in pushing him on anyone. He just happens to represent my interests very very slightly better than the other total pieces of shit running.

Inspiring stuff right?

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Often times I share your attitude, so the question is begging to be asked. How do you remain at all optimistic toward this government and it's politics?

sync0s said:

Often times I share your attitude, so the question is begging to be asked. How do you remain at all optimistic toward this government and it's politics?

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I find it very likely that democrats will take back congress and the president will be able to pass a more liberal agenda.

I wouldn't call it optimism as much as pessimism about Romney.

UncleBuck said:

well, it started months and months ago.

seemed like every thread would devolve into a ron paul debate, and every other thread ws a thread about ron paul.

myself and a few others on the board really got tired of having every discussion about this or that or the other devolve into ronald talk, so different tactics were employed.

dan would meet ron paul posts with noam chomsky posts. i started a thread entitled "ron paul: turtle fucker?" and so on and so forth.

eventually, things cooled down. even the most hardcore supporters got our point that no politician is 100% (at least most of them did).

it's not that we don't like you or welcome you here, but you have kind of walked into a buzzsaw with respect to the ronald stuff.

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Lol wow...this is seriously how you viewed it?

...lmao

deprave said:

Lol wow...this is seriously how you viewed it?

...lmao

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is your view that we are mean to ronald the millionaire just for spite?

most of us would have left it alone if not for the intolerability of some of his worshippers.

you can check my "started threads" and find that i have posted threads about why i liked ron paul. those days are gone now, though.

UncleBuck said:

is your view that we are mean to ronald the millionaire just for spite?

most of us would have left it alone if not for the intolerability of some of his worshippers.

you can check my "started threads" and find that i have posted threads about why i liked ron paul. those days are gone now, though.

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"God damn FUCK Those Ron Paul supporters with their logic and facts. How dare they not bow down to the false information that I spread in the only Ron Paul thread. Asshole worshipers. "

UncleBuck said:

is your view that we are mean to ronald the millionaire just for spite?

most of us would have left it alone if not for the intolerability of some of his worshippers.

you can check my "started threads" and find that i have posted threads about why i liked ron paul. those days are gone now, though.

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I just don't see that as what took place..you think that you made some kind of impact or something..."dan would meet ron paul posts with noam chomsky posts. i started a thread entitled "ron paul: turtle fucker?" and so on and so forth."

Those 2 threads seemed very obsure to me.

"eventually, things cooled down. even the most hardcore supporters got our point that no politician is 100% (at least most of them did)."

I don't think anyone really thinks Ron Paul is 100% perfect..How could they? ever...thats your perspective, he is a stuttering old geezer...The message of liberty is what unites all people and Ron Paul is the only legit Liberty candidate. You really can't argue with that..your crazy to argue with that...that is why people think you guys are nucking futz and argue with you endlessly. You provoke them intentionally and you are being a manipulative jerk.

lifegoesonbrah said:

"God damn FUCK Those Ron Paul supporters with their logic and facts. How dare they not bow down to the false information that I spread in the only Ron Paul thread. Asshole worshipers. "

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exactly..lmao

lifegoesonbrah said:

"God damn FUCK Those Ron Paul supporters with their logic and facts. How dare they not bow down to the false information that I spread in the only Ron Paul thread. Asshole worshipers. "

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I love how any person can say this same thing to support their opinion. The impressive claim to have all of the facts while the rest have none.

I hate it.