CLONING WITH ALPHA(2 days is the goal)

Philly xG

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Not sure how the OG is. 2 weeks into 12/12 I lost a battle to root rot, but before they were sent into 12/12 I took clones, but none of the clones survived. Right before the originals died off I took more clones as well to try and save them, but looks like those clones are going no where either. Don't know if it's the strain or what, but in the past with the strain Ice, and a bagseed I got good roots within a week in the same set up as now.
bummer sorry to hear that bro! do you clean it regularly? with some type of natural cleaner or bleach if washed real good? the smallest things can be the biggest problems what i learned.
 

Philly xG

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ill throw in a pic of my set up real quick just gotta throw some seeds in a cup o wata! excpecting some og master and bubba kush's from cali bag seeds but one in every half/p so gotta be worth popping!
 

Philly xG

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I noticed you said earlier that you cut the tips of the leaves off, why do you do that? Also, are those sponges that you are using to put your clones in? I am probably going to steal your clone set-up, or atleast use a modified version of it. As they say, imitation is the best form of flattery. :D

ive seen some stuff at the hydro store thats the same as the flower foam you get at a craft store that holds moister really well,
havnt tried it yet but thinking about getting some, the hydro shop is asking almost 20$ a sheet! im sure its alot cheaper at the craft store an been told it works really well!

but gotta try it for my self some day haha
 

alphawolf.hack

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its the mix that makes the clone speed. hormex is what does it not really me. thats a well made cloner DB although i would ditch the submersible heater and make your air pump, pump hot air. what size is the water pump? i know mine seems simple but thats the beauty. more pipe is less pressure thus less spray. im sure the hobby store foam will wor fine i doesnt need to hold moisture it can actualy be a hassle (water build up on the lid). i never looked into azos i will have to do that. i just cut tip it gives better results for some reason i didnt b4 but after a while it just became a habit i think it helps wouldn't stop its just how i clean em up for cloning.
 

Philly xG

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here my set up, already got bumps on the buddhas and everything else looks like it bumping toobeen 2 days since i thew them in.. the little trick?

haha stoner me was bored cutting clones and decided to take my cuttings and dip them into the cloning gel and as i would dip i would scrape/scab/bruse the part cut just a little bit on the plastic rim of the bottle and work the gel in and seems to get the bumps quicker to me
 

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Philly xG

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haha thanks more then happy show my progress,

and the yellowing on the clones for me is perfectly fine, i think that there pull the last energy it has to make root then they fall off and back to lush, huh weeds!
 

dbkick

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its the mix that makes the clone speed. hormex is what does it not really me. thats a well made cloner DB although i would ditch the submersible heater and make your air pump, pump hot air. what size is the water pump? i know mine seems simple but thats the beauty. more pipe is less pressure thus less spray. im sure the hobby store foam will wor fine i doesnt need to hold moisture it can actualy be a hassle (water build up on the lid). i never looked into azos i will have to do that. i just cut tip it gives better results for some reason i didnt b4 but after a while it just became a habit i think it helps wouldn't stop its just how i clean em up for cloning.
I use 400 gph pumps in most of my stuff, I'll have to try some of this hormex stuff.
 

alphawolf.hack

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thats how i feel about the yellowing as soon as they hit the soil or a low dose of hydro nutes they seem to start to just shoot off. yeah im thinking i need stronger pump than 250. would definitely use a 400 in that cloner, got some pipe to it. are those 180 sprayers? man if it wasn't for hormex i would have gave up on the aeroclone. my results where so terrible with gel. i had really good results in soil with greenlight powder and was about to switch back to that slow ass cloning method but then my friend told me to try hormex.(i would use dip N grow if couldnt get greenlight or hormex. Dip N' Grow is the shit too.)
 

dbkick

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thats how i feel about the yellowing as soon as they hit the soil or a low dose of hydro nutes they seem to start to just shoot off. yeah im thinking i need stronger pump than 250. would definitely use a 400 in that cloner, got some pipe to it. are those 180 sprayers? man if it wasn't for hormex i would have gave up on the aeroclone. my results where so terrible with gel. i had really good results in soil with greenlight powder and was about to switch back to that slow ass cloning method but then my friend told me to try hormex.(i would use dip N grow if couldnt get greenlight or hormex. Dip N' Grow is the shit too.)
Those misters vary in the picture, I've gone to all ez cloner replacement misters because even though they way clog they also unclog with a toothpick. The ez cloner misters are 360 degree.I don't understand the gel part if you have misters, The gel will be washed off almost immediately and not a total waste since it does stay in the cloning solution. I don't use a gel, only water and azos OR clonex, never both because the azos is living bacteria and the clonex liquid is anti-microbial but I possibly said that already.
 

Philly xG

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i understand what you say about the gel and it being washed off, but what i do is just use it while im lightly scraping the cut end of the clone on the edge on my clonex bottle and its now day 3 and have little white tips coming out..

but what i heard was clonex eats away the outside were you dipp so i feel like helped it out a little bit?

but everyone has there own way im still experimenting myself and learning

but for the ones who can clone in 1 weeks or 3 weeks good job to you cause there alot of people out there who simply cant for the life of them



i try to keep my roto going and im starting by every 10 days i clone crop and throw one into flower
 

alphawolf.hack

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yeah no gel in the aero, it will become part of the solution and there is no measuring its strength and how much the cutting has absorbed. you dont think the 180 misters would be better? you can still unclog them with a tooth pick. if you go to krogers they sell those teeth flossers with nylon brushes they work great and bend and 60 pack is only like 4$.that is why i wpu;d nt mess with azos when cloning my best results are when everything is sterile and non-organic
 

dbkick

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yeah no gel in the aero, it will become part of the solution and there is no measuring its strength and how much the cutting has absorbed. you dont think the 180 misters would be better? you can still unclog them with a tooth pick. if you go to krogers they sell those teeth flossers with nylon brushes they work great and bend and 60 pack is only like 4$.that is why i wpu;d nt mess with azos when cloning my best results are when everything is sterile and non-organic
as long as they aren't designed like the digs misters I buy at home depot, used to buy anyway, I bought a lifetime supply of ezcloner 360s, didn't know they made them in 180 and 90s or I would have gone with those .
 

dbkick

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The deal is with my cloner I get these kick ass roots(can't find the photo atm) but maybe its the strains I'm doing. they'll take a week to show bumps, I'm just now seeing bumps on the euphorias. I monitor and control every aspect of wtf goes on in the cloner, temp/ph/ppm and still have NEVER seen even bumps that I recall in 2 days. you were saying clonex is weak but at its directed level its 1500 ppm.I'm def gonna try the hormex and look at my results with that.
 

dbkick

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I'm thinking possibly with the hormex I can also use azos too if it isn't anti-microbial in some way.
 

alphawolf.hack

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probably can use it. people have used it for tissue culture because i think it is a pure source of NAA( naplthyle acetic acid or something like that i can spell andi dont have the bottle in front of me) what is atm? im not good with slang i just learned what "imo" means lol. i think will see bumps tonight it got real cold the night b4 and the water temps only got up 78. its looking like a 3 or 4 day process im just trying to push my limits. 2 days would be the bomb but it doesnt happen every time i think it is somewhat strain dependent too. as far as ppm goes well there is a lot said about it but not alot known. you could have a ppm high as hell but with a bunch of inert chemicals that dont react in any way to plants i think ppm has more to do with chealted chemicals and salts. i have never tested my ppm but i would guess with my mixture its under 1000 ppm. want to buy one but i cant figure out if it will help me with anything besides cloning.. my plants just use vitamin enriched water(probably under 1000 ppm) and compost tea which i know mine is on the ppm of mud lol. works great tho. do you use tap or bottled water in you cloner?
 

alphawolf.hack

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motul you can take as many clones as your mother plant can provide without a significant loss in foilage. in the cas of my bushy mother i could have taken up to 10 clones probably. if its your first time just try one or 2.
 

alphawolf.hack

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oh yeah about to add a reptiglo 10.0 uvb to my flower excited to see what it does!!! and i noticed i finanlly got my 2nd rep bar. WHO HERE HAS BEEN GIVEN ME REP? jk.

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i will update in 10 hours thats when the water temp will be on the rise.
 
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