trayvan martin

[DelSlow]

What if she doesn't even charge him?

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

Ssdd ...........

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

life is precious . . .. . . .and should not be disrespected . . . .Zimmerman will still live out his life . . . . .. . .martin wont . . . .Mr Z deserves whatever he gets and even if he is aquited he will live a life of shame for his disrespect of women and people in general . . .. . scared and lonely

 

[desert dude]

i'm absolutely certain that you would say the same thing if it happened to your son.

If it happened to my son (I really do have a 17 year old son who is 6' tall and weighs 155, but that is where the similarities end), I would be heart broken and I might be out of my mind and demanding retribution, just like the Martins.

But the law is the law, read it for yourself, I am just stating the facts under the law. That is what the prosecutor has to work with.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

so premeditation to commit a crime by stalking and harassing martin isnt a crime???? how is zimmerman excused from fault by claiming self defense as he put himself and his weapon there on purpose . . . if a robber shoots me robbing my house he doesnt get to cry self defense if i started to hit him, he choose to be there!

and being a part of neighborhood watch doesn't give zimmerman the right to stalk this young man though adjacent area to his neighborhood . . . .. and im pretty sure if i call myself "your town here" marshal and run around questioning people i would get luaghed at , i have nothing to prove real gansters dont flex muscles cause they know they got em

would logic suggest that by breaking the law and stalking and harassing martin he doesnt get to use self defense because he choose to be there vs martin who was stalked and harassed and then"stood his ground"

or is stalking and harassment with a fire arm not illegal in Florida?

 

[desert dude]

so premeditation to commit a crime by stalking and harassing him isnt a crime???? how is he excused from fault of his self defense as he put himself and his weapon there on purpose . . . if a robber shoots me robbing my house he doesnt get to cry self defense if i started to hit him, he choose to be there!

and being a part of neighborhood watch doesn't give him the right to stalk this young man though adjacent area to his neighborhood . . . ..

would logic suggest that by breaking the law and stalking and harassing martin he doesnt get to use self defense because he choose to be there vs martin who was stalked and harassed and then"stood his ground"

or is stalking and harassment with a fire arm not illegal in Florida?

You might have a point if Zimmerman actually did the things you are claiming. There is no evidence whatever that Zimmer broke any law. The only evidence I have seen corroborates Zimmerman's account of that night. That is why he was not charged with a crime.

Your moral outrage at the death of Trayvon means nothing. It's a bitter pill, best to swallow it quickly.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

how did mr Z not stalk and then harrase with a fire arm . . .Martin? what exactly do you think happened . .. your words not copy and paste

if morals mean nothing then what does matter . . .. . . . do you put all your faith in the government and people . .. vs ideals and morals . . . ..

funny thing is your a hypocrite . . . if it was your kid you would care no matter what the circumstances . . . .so since martin has no social or emotional connection to you he doesnt matter

in the world of logic that makes your opinion biased and invalid . . . .imho

and i would care for either person if they were killed and justice wasnt being sought

 

[BBbubblegum]

Yes, he should be charged. What pisses me off is how race got tied into this. /thread

 

[bundee1]

You might have a point if Zimmerman actually did the things you are claiming. There is no evidence whatever that Zimmer broke any law. The only evidence I have seen corroborates Zimmerman's account of that night. That is why he was not charged with a crime.

Your moral outrage at the death of Trayvon means nothing. It's a bitter pill, best to swallow it quickly.

Im glad there's still moral outrage. A lot of people here seem to get caught up in the details of the law, doesnt matter if its a good law or not or even if a kid is dead. Again makes me question their motive.

 

[desert dude]

how did mr Z not stalk and then harrase with a fire arm . . .Martin? what exactly do you think happened . .. your words not copy and paste

if morals mean nothing then what does matter . . .. . . . do you put all your faith in the goverment and people . .. vs ideals and morals . . . ..

funny thing is your a hypocrite . . . if it was your kid you would care no matter what the sucomstances . . . .so since martin has no socail or emotional connection to you he doesnt matter

in the world of logic that makes your opinion biased and invalid . . . .imho

I seldom copy/paste, and when I do I use quotes.

I have posted previously what I think happened. Asking a person "what he is doing here" is not stalking and not assault. The fact that Z had a firearm is irrelevant.

Look at the police report, read the eye witness accounts. If you have contradictory evidence to those facts then present them; so far I have seen nothing to contradict Z's account.

 

[Harrekin]

Im glad there's still moral outrage. A lot of people here seem to get caught up in the details of the law, doesnt matter if its a good law or not or even if a kid is dead. Again makes me question their motive.

Have you anything other than speculation to say Zimmerman actually engaged Martin?

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

the only people who are talking about race are the spin doctors and the sycophants


a human being is dead for no good reason due to the decision of one paranoid and fearful citizen and neighbor whos character and past are just as dubious as martins except martin wasnt doing anything wrong at this time when his civl liberties were taken for granted by another citizen . . . . .

 

[Harrekin]

I seldom copy/paste, and when I do I use quotes.

I have posted previously what I think happened. Asking a person "what he is doing here" is not stalking and not assault. The fact that Z had a firearm is irrelevant.

Look at the police report, read the eye witness accounts. If you have contradictory evidence to those facts then present them; so far I have seen nothing to contradict Z's account.

This post is absolutely covered in win-sauce.

 

[desert dude]

Im glad there's still moral outrage. A lot of people here seem to get caught up in the details of the law, doesnt matter if its a good law or not or even if a kid is dead. Again makes me question their motive.

If the shooting on that night went down as Zimmer claims, then I have no moral outrage. It's a simple tragedy, I sympathize with the Martins as they lost a 17 year old son.

The "details of the law" are the only things the prosecutor has to work with.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

I seldom copy/paste, and when I do I use quotes.

I have posted previously what I think happened. Asking a person "what he is doing here" is not stalking and not assault. The fact that Z had a firearm is irrelevant.

Look at the police report, read the eye witness accounts. If you have contradictory evidence to those facts then present them; so far I have seen nothing to contradict Z's account.

so following and then perusing is not stalking? how long was zimmerman following martin while martin did nothing illegal . . how is that not stalking . . . and then running after him and harassing ((2) : to create an unpleasant or hostile situation for especially by uninvited and unwelcome verbal or physical conduct ) him then martin "stood his ground" ad zimmerman shot him once then murdered him

you really think he was a threat after the first shot, i bet your eye witness can place a decent amount of time between shots . . .. . . do you know how fast the human brain can interpret real time information . . . . .

after the first shot and martin was on the ground . . .. and he shot him again, it is murder

stalkingpresent participle of stalk (Verb)

Verb:

Pursue or approach stealthily: "a cat stalking a bird". Harass or persecute (someone) with unwanted and obsessive attention: "the fan stalked the actor".

i would think sneaking around and watching where he was goign from his car then persuing him by running after him can be desrcibed as

stalking and harrasing

 

[desert dude]

so following and then perusing is not stalking? how long was zimmerman following martin while martin did nothing illegal . . how is that not stalking . . . and then running after him and harassing ((2) : to create an unpleasant or hostile situation for especially by uninvited and unwelcome verbal or physical conduct ) him then martin "stood his ground" ad zimmerman shot him once then murdered him

you really think he was a threat after the first shot, i bet your eye witness can place a decent amount of time between shots . . .. . . do you know how fast the human brain can interpret real time information . . . . .

after the first shot and martin was on the ground . . .. and he shot him again, it is murder

stalkingpresent participle of stalk (Verb)

Verb:

Pursue or approach stealthily: "a cat stalking a bird". Harass or persecute (someone) with unwanted and obsessive attention: "the fan stalked the actor".

Trayvon was shot once in the chest. Some of the eye witnesses said they heard two shots, some said one. The gun had one round missing from the magazine. There was one shell casing found on the scene. It's pretty clear that one round was fired. You are welcome to your own opinion but not your own facts.

As I said before. It's a bitter pill, best swallowed quickly.

 

[Harrekin]

Trayvon was shot once in the chest. Some of the eye witnesses said they heard two shots, some said one. The gun had one round missing from the magazine. There was one shell casing found on the scene. It's pretty clear that one round was fired. You are welcome to your own opinion but not your own facts.

As I said before. It's a bitter pill, best swallowed quickly.

No you're missing the point, the racist police put a 9mm round back in the gun, disposed of the second shell casing and "disappeared" the second bullet wound...cos it's a racist conspiracy obviously.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

ok ya i didnt know that, but what about all the other stuff i said . . .. your not a sniper .. . . this isnt one strike and your out . .debate class . . . .so what about the stalking and harassing with a fire arm begin illegal(im not sure if it is but it is florida?) and martin being able to stand his ground .. . . . . . and i just dont think Mr Z was in mortal danger more like his fear and anger got the better and those are excuses they help give context to what happened but

ignorance is not a excuse when someone has died

and Harrekendoll your a better grower then yes man, tell us what you really think

 

[desert dude]

Trayvon was shot once in the chest. Some of the eye witnesses said they heard two shots, some said one. The gun had one round missing from the magazine. There was one shell casing found on the scene. It's pretty clear that one round was fired. You are welcome to your own opinion but not your own facts.

As I said before. It's a bitter pill, best swallowed quickly.

Actually, I need to amend this post to read "some of the ear witnesses" as nobody has come forward to claim to have actually seen the gun fired. Two EYE witnesses saw part of the struggle but neither of them claimed to see Zimmer fire a shot.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

Actually, I need to amend this post to read "some of the ear witnesses" as nobody has come forward to claim to have actually seen the gun fired. Two EYE witnesses saw part of the struggle but neither of them claimed to see Zimmer fire a shot.

wouldnt body position dictate where he was shot and where zimmerman was . . . unless he was moved

so you going to completely ignore my thoughts on the stalking and harassing as you go on and snipe and split hairs on all the other " ilrelevent " thoughts i have

oh and picking apart spelling errors that must be supper hard when i post . . . .lmfao does it make you feel good lol but guess you have nothing else to add so you try and make me look incompetent . . . . .. . . . . . .i wonder why you cant post what you think . . . is it cuase you would have to go back and change all the other post that contradict it previously? its real simple to explian what you think , unless your what your think is constantly changing to fit the the stories you hear or spew vs being yourself and having a opinioon for a reason

i have

and in parts am wrong . .. . . .and i am man enough to admit it