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Kaendar

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This was your claim. Based on a falsehood complete with misleading map.



This is how I addressed it. I apologize for a mistake I made. The Yaqui do share kinship with the Aztecs. So you're wrong on both counts.



Once again, not the complete truth. You seem really good at using half truths and outright lies to back up your claims. I noticed that in your gay hating thread as well.



once again, addressing your claim.



Have no idea what this has to do with what we were talking about. The Huron are completely different than the Navajo. The Choctaw are completely different than the Hopi. Big whoop.
And the point of all this was?? The point im trying to make is that Aztecs and Mayas were nowhere near modern US. People need stop saying otherwise. Your argument about the Yaquis is kind of going in a different direction. Most modern day Mexicans are the product of white conquistadors having babies with Aztec and Mayan women.
 

Kaendar

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You haven't the faintest fucking idea what you're talking about. They have found feathers and artifacts in mounds in the southeastern and southwestern US that are clearly of Aztec origin. There are mound builders in the southeast that may have been a colony of Aztecs from Mexico. Trade routes can be traced from the Aztec empire far into the interior of the U.S. They Aztec influence was vast. Many tribes interacted, intermarried and traded with the Aztecs.
And im guessing you believe in the fairy tale of Aztlan right?
 

Corso312

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agree that kids learn a lot of good/bad habits from parents or whoever raised them but I am not buying that slavery has anything to do with it..too long ago..serious question on eskimos and native americans..why is there such a bad problem with alcohol?
 

H R Puff N Stuff

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people just on this side of the texas border are of the same origin than those on that side of the border a changeable line that men make spain, french, america do not seperate your race just your nationality. your ancesters were brought from another continent entirely maybe thats why you dont understand that we traveled as people in our continent your race does not change just because you move up north
 

Carne Seca

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And im guessing you believe in the fairy tale of Aztlan right?
This is hard evidence from archaeological digs. I live in Archaeology central. Home of the Anasazi (who traded with the Aztecs). Archaeologists cut their teeth in New Mexico. Ever heard of Chaco Canyon?
 

Kaendar

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agree that kids learn a lot of good/bad habits from parents or whoever raised them but I am not buying that slavery has anything to do with it..too long ago..serious question on eskimos and native americans..why is there such a bad problem with alcohol?
Once again its a generational problem introduced to them by whites.
 

cannabineer

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agree that kids learn a lot of good/bad habits from parents or whoever raised them but I am not buying that slavery has anything to do with it..too long ago..serious question on eskimos and native americans..why is there such a bad problem with alcohol?
It has to do with ethnic distribution of alcohol dehydrogenase, the enzyme the liver uses to clear this poison. Native Americans and SE Asians usually don't have as active a copy as Caucasians. So it affects them more severely. cn
 

Carne Seca

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And the point of all this was?? The point im trying to make is that Aztecs and Mayas were nowhere near modern US. People need stop saying otherwise. Your argument about the Yaquis is kind of going in a different direction. Most modern day Mexicans are the product of white conquistadors having babies with Aztec and Mayan women.
No one said anything about the Maya and you're dead wrong about the Aztec.
 

abandonconflict

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You haven't the faintest fucking idea what you're talking about. They have found feathers and artifacts in mounds in the southeastern and southwestern US that are clearly of Aztec origin. There are mound builders in the southeast that may have been a colony of Aztecs from Mexico. Trade routes can be traced from the Aztec empire far into the interior of the U.S. The Aztec influence was vast. Many tribes interacted, intermarried and traded with the Aztecs.
Ballcourts and the 52 year calendar, but not the calendar round from what I read. The Hopi are basically Mesoamerican. The comparative mythology is fairly easy to discern also. The Sierra Madre people called Tarahumara can speak in native tongue with Navajo easily.
 

Kaendar

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This is hard evidence from archaeological digs. I live in Archaeology central. Home of the Anasazi (who traded with the Aztecs). Archaeologists cut their teeth in New Mexico. Ever heard of Chaco Canyon?
I mean Aztec indians did come up to the US, but not on there own. They were probably at gunpoint in shackles. I believe in what your saying, but like you say to me, your twisting it into a half truth.
 

H R Puff N Stuff

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And the point of all this was?? The point im trying to make is that Aztecs and Mayas were nowhere near modern US. People need stop saying otherwise. Your argument about the Yaquis is kind of going in a different direction. Most modern day Mexicans are the product of white conquistadors having babies with Aztec and Mayan women.
yes and the conqisdador ruled all of mexico for spain.
 

UncleBuck

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I mean Aztec indians did come up to the US, but not on there own. They were probably at gunpoint in shackles. I believe in what your saying, but like you say to me, your twisting it into a half truth.
disregard archaeological evidence, make uneducated assertion and cling to it like fact.
 

Carne Seca

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It has to do with ethnic distribution of alcohol dehydrogenase, the enzyme the liver uses to clear this poison. Native Americans and SE Asians usually don't have as active a copy as Caucasians. So it affects them more severely. cn
Not to mention generations of psychological and cultural trauma. Several generations of natives in the southwest were forcibly removed from their homes and put in boarding schools. Many died from starvation, neglect, abuse, and exposure. They were beaten severely when they spoke their own language or expressed in any way their native culture. By the time most of them left the boarding schools they couldn't speak their own language. They couldn't converse with their own families. When they tried to get work in the border towns around the reservations the whites wouldn't hire them. A lot of them either left their homeland or became alcoholics. The damage was terrible to native cultures and it took a long time to recover. Some never did.
 

Kaendar

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disregard archaeological evidence, make uneducated assertion and cling to it like fact.
Its a known fact that the Spanish took the Aztecs as slaves, forcing them to go with them to be missionaries and do free labor. Look it up.
 

Kaendar

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Not to mention generations of psychological and cultural trauma. Several generations of natives in the southwest were forcibly removed from their homes and put in boarding schools. Many died from starvation, neglect, abuse, and exposure. They were beaten severely when they spoke their own language or expressed in any way their native culture. By the time most of them left the boarding schools they couldn't speak their own language. They couldn't converse with their own families. When they tried to get work in the border towns around the reservations the whites wouldn't hire them. A lot of them either left their homeland or became alcoholics. The damage was terrible to native cultures and it took a long time to recover. Some never did.
same thing that happened with blacks
 

Carne Seca

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Ballcourts and the 52 year calendar, but not the calendar round from what I read. The Hopi are basically Mesoamerican. The comparative mythology is fairly easy to discern also. The Sierra Madre people called Tarahumara can speak in native tongue with Navajo easily.
So can certain tribes in Alaska the Dene. So what? The Apache and the Navajo are actually different bands of the same people. The Hopi are descended from the Anasazi you moron. Meso-American my ass. Where do you get this shit?

I mean Aztec indians did come up to the US, but not on there own. They were probably at gunpoint in shackles. I believe in what your saying, but like you say to me, your twisting it into a half truth.
In shackles? What the fuck are you talking about? If there was any shackles or slavery involved it was the Navajo. Mexicans used to raid the Navajo lands and steal women and children. That's how the Nakai Dine'e clan came about (Mexican Clan).
 
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