Ok to "not" support our troops?

malignant

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I just want to vent a little and say "fuck our troops". Actually im going to put it on one of those stupid ribbons for the back of my car that says that.

"You cant do that, you'll get shot" Really? Now I have to worry about my freedom of speech from my own people?.
i wouldnt be sad when some nam vet pulls you out of your window and curbstomps you while the rest of his unit and hells angels brethren take turns kicking you as they ride by, in fact id laugh my ass off. you have every right to say "fuck the troops" i say "fuck civilians" all the damn time i run into people like you and think how much better a sense of community the iraqis had than we do. americans suck and its because of people like you, and your self serving self loving pointless existence. can you honestly say you have contributed anything to this world? and dont say you had a kid, because i feel like that takes away from the world, just 1 more useless mouth to suckle from the governments tit.
 

Cut.Throat.

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i wouldnt be sad when some nam vet pulls you out of your window and curbstomps you while the rest of his unit and hells angels brethren take turns kicking you as they ride by, in fact id laugh my ass off.
ter·ror·ism   [ter-uh-riz-uhm]noun
1.
the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.
So you support terrorism. Nice to know.

What ever happened to people agreeing to disagree. Is it really that hard to realize people might not have the same opinion as you?
 

malignant

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So you support terrorism. Nice to know.

What ever happened to people agreeing to disagree. Is it really that hard to realize people might not have the same opinion as you?
lol what do you think this country was founded on? the basis of the boston tea party, terrorism, the declaration of independence terrorism, guerilla tactics applied to marching formations, terrorism, one mans terrorist is anothers freedom fighter, there is nothing wrong with disagreeing, i just simply pointed out the ironic street justice i could actually see playing out if someone wanted to take such offensive actions against a group of people that are causing him no harm. vets arent making your life any worse, but civilians are the bane of most vets existence. every 80 minutes an american vet commits suicide, what kind of person would want to single out and pick on a group of people who were gullible and got duped into doing something they really didnt want for their lives? who are now broken and trying to live with themselves and the things they've seen, only a pathetic person would want to make life tougher for vets. recruiters lie very well, and by the time you figured out whats really going on its way too late, and its do this or go to jail, then you get deployed, and its do your job or die, if you didnt serve you have no idea and it shows how ignorant you are if you try to speculate. its people like you that make this country no longer worth saving. let america fall, let her colors run, fuck this place and all the people on it, they don't appreciate a fucking thing.
 

Cut.Throat.

Well-Known Member
lol what do you think this country was founded on? the basis of the boston tea party, terrorism, the declaration of independence terrorism, guerilla tactics applied to marching formations, terrorism, on mans terrorist is anothers freedom fighter, there is nothing wrong with disagreeing, i just simply pointed out the ironic street justice i could actually see playing out if someone wanted to take such offensive actions against a group of people that are causing him no harm. vets arent making your life any worse, but civilians are the bane of most vets existence. every 80 minutes an american vet commits suicide, what kind of person would want to single out and pick on a group of people who were gullible and got duped into doing something they really didnt want. recruiters lie, and by the time you figured out whats going on its too late, and its do this or go to jail, then you get deployed, and its do your job or die, if you didnt serve you have no idea and it shows how ignorant you are if you try to speculate. its people like you that make this country no longer worth saving. let america fall, let her colors run, fuck this place and all the people on it, most of you dont deserve the rights you piss away as is.
No remorse for idiots who join without realizing what you're getting yourself into. It's just a job. No one is forcing anyone to join anymore.

No remorse for people who kill themselves either. Not going to waste my time on someone who wasted their life.

I'm ok with letting this country fall btw. Shit I'm the one who wants the zombie apocalypse or a good EMP. Can't wait for it to happen actually. The entire human race needs to be knocked down a couple pegs. Even if I'm one of the first people to die.
 

NoDrama

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A .357 defies that logic ... cn
Yeah I don't think Chesus understands that a .357 mag has twice the power of a .45, it has more stopping power than a .44 mag. 98% of people who get shot a single time by a .357 are laying on the ground incapacitated or dead.

Even a .22 will fuck you up though if it is well aimed.
 

NoDrama

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a makarov? please.

unless its made in Czechoslovakia they are junk. you would get bettter service from a 9mm browning hi-power.
Those Czechs do make nice guns. I really like the CZ 75 SP-01, really awesome gun, the trigger isn't the greatest but its wonderful to shoot.

The Hi-Power is the original "wonder nine" created just a few years after John Moses introduced the world to the 1911.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Yeah I don't think Chesus understands that a .357 mag has twice the power of a .45, it has more stopping power than a .44 mag. 98% of people who get shot a single time by a .357 are laying on the ground incapacitated or dead.
In all fairness, the modern, lower-pressure .357 is about even with a .45 ACP in re muzzle energy and stopping power. At the old 46000cup level, the .357 was a hot shot though. In terms of stopping power, the .45 and .357 represent the optimum, and even the bigs like the .44 and .49s (sold as .50s or .500s due to ad copy inflation) don't exceed the stats for the two lesser chamberings. At least that was true 12 years ago, when i stopped affording gun mags. (the paper sort, lol)
I perfer the .45 for a reason that has nothing to do with its effectiveness: it's quieter than a .357 and delivers equivalent punch. I can't imagine touching off a Magnum indoors and not being nearly as stunned as my target. cn
 

NoDrama

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In all fairness, the modern, lower-pressure .357 is about even with a .45 ACP in re muzzle energy and stopping power. At the old 46000cup level, the .357 was a hot shot though. In terms of stopping power, the .45 and .357 represent the optimum, and even the bigs like the .44 and .49s (sold as .50s or .500s due to ad copy inflation) don't exceed the stats for the two lesser chamberings. At least that was true 12 years ago, when i stopped affording gun mags. (the paper sort, lol)
I perfer the .45 for a reason that has nothing to do with its effectiveness: it's quieter than a .357 and delivers equivalent punch. I can't imagine touching off a Magnum indoors and not being nearly as stunned as my target. cn
Yeah, the magnums got a bit of bite behind em, I usually just shoot 38 special out of my Python, cheaper and a whole lot easier on the recoil end. Otherwise its Speer gold dot .357 magnum 1006 ft/lb of muzzle energy.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Yeah, the magnums got a bit of bite behind em, I usually just shoot 38 special out of my Python, cheaper and a whole lot easier on the recoil end.
The Python is a mighty fine firearm. I had two but got rid of the shorter one. When i shot target, I'd load "intermediate" loads in full-length brass, 148-grain wadcutters pushed at maybe 1250fps for a clean cut in copier paper. For pleasure shooting, the .22RF and .357 are my favorites. cn
 

Dr Kynes

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In all fairness, the modern, lower-pressure .357 is about even with a .45 ACP in re muzzle energy and stopping power. At the old 46000cup level, the .357 was a hot shot though. In terms of stopping power, the .45 and .357 represent the optimum, and even the bigs like the .44 and .49s (sold as .50s or .500s due to ad copy inflation) don't exceed the stats for the two lesser chamberings. At least that was true 12 years ago, when i stopped affording gun mags. (the paper sort, lol)
I perfer the .45 for a reason that has nothing to do with its effectiveness: it's quieter than a .357 and delivers equivalent punch. I can't imagine touching off a Magnum indoors and not being nearly as stunned as my target. cn
the subsonic flying bowling ball of a 45 is effective, no doubt. but ninjas can dodge it because it's so slow. and the larger round reduces magazine capacity for dome shots on zombies. all in all the .357 9 mil and .40S&W are better choices as long as they are reliable.

for handloaders, the 357 offers considerable cartridge space to pump in extra powder or a longer projectile. my .357 hunting loads beat the ass off a .45, but require a substantial gun and shooter to control.

i wouldnt even feel right about sharing the details, it's just not safe in weaker double actions or some of the shitty lever rifles
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
the subsonic flying bowling ball of a 45 is effective, no doubt. but ninjas can dodge it because it's so slow. and the larger round reduces magazine capacity for dome shots on zombies. all in all the .357 9 mil and .40S&W are better choices as long as they are reliable.

for handloaders, the 357 offers considerable cartridge space to pump in extra powder or a longer projectile. my .357 hunting loads beat the ass off a .45, but require a substantial gun and shooter to control.

i wouldnt even feel right about sharing the details, it's just not safe in weaker double actions or some of the shitty lever rifles
Oh I know what you mean!! I've spat 180s at a verified 1900fps out of a Freedom Arms .353 (now the Model 83). I wouldn't even try that in a Redhawk .357. Ever see one of those? The cylinder looks like a giant .22 sixgun's. cn

 

Dr Kynes

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i shoot .357's out of an old blackhawk full size single six, it finishes a deer real good, and is my last resort for wild hogs when shit might not go as planned. i wouldnt rely on my .40 S&W or my 1911 to take out a porker thats got inside my bayonet. heavy loads in a .357 can get the job done though, and thats why i carry it during hog hunts.

for personal defense, and keepin in the nightstand the .40 is my first choice, my 45 doesnt even see much use any more.
 

NoDrama

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The Python is a mighty fine firearm. I had two but got rid of the shorter one. When i shot target, I'd load "intermediate" loads in full-length brass, 148-grain wadcutters pushed at maybe 1250fps for a clean cut in copier paper. For pleasure shooting, the .22RF and .357 are my favorites. cn
I have quite an extensive collection, but my favorite auto is my SIG Sauer P226 in 9mm, I can usually hit a tennis ball at 75 yards 6 or 7 times out of 10. It is an older German made SIG. 28,000 rounds or so and it hasn't failed to fire ever and only once did it fail to eject at the end of a long string of cheap ammo.
 

Dr Kynes

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I have quite an extensive collection, but my favorite auto is my SIG Sauer P226 in 9mm, I can usually hit a tennis ball at 75 yards 6 or 7 times out of 10. It is an older German made SIG. 28,000 rounds or so and it hasn't failed to fire ever and only once did it fail to eject at the end of a long string of cheap ammo.
my .40 is a sig p226! i got the old FBI model, back in 95 or 96 when they were talking about only selling that model to "lawer enfercements" jackoffs.

paid a packet for it too, but it runs like a swiss watch.

sometime when i got the cash im gonna get the .357 sig conversion kit. (round $400) and some brass and dies for that round.
 

Rob Roy

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When some foreign country actually threatens my freedom, I will gladly join...

I wonder if any of the people in foreign countries that the United States occupies or invades feel the same way? hmmm.

Nation states all do the same bullshit flag waving to use their young people as cannon fodder....Hermann Goering said it best...."it works the same in any country...."
 
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